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LA Times: Doctors are top source of prescription drugs for chronic abusers

By Lisa Girion and Scott Glover
March 3, 2014

Doctors are fueling the nation's prescription drug epidemic and represent the primary source of narcotic painkillers for chronic abusers, according to a new government study.
The finding challenges a widely held belief that has long guided policymakers: That the epidemic is caused largely by abusers getting their drugs without prescriptions, typically from friends and family.

Dr. Tom Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which conducted the study, said the research showed the need for greater focus on doctors who are "problem prescribers."

The study, published Monday by the Journal of the American Medical Assn., echoes a 2012 Times investigation that found drugs prescribed by doctors caused or contributed to nearly half of the prescription overdose deaths in Southern California in recent years. The Times also revealed that authorities were failing to mine a rich database of prescribing records to identify and stop reckless prescribers.

Frieden said the new study, appearing in JAMA's Internal Medicine journal, along with The Times investigation and a second JAMA article on the widespread use of narcotic painkillers in Tennessee, all showed that physician prescribing was a key contributor to the crisis of addiction and overdose that has continued to mount since the CDC declared it an epidemic in 2011.

Prescription drugs — mostly narcotic painkillers, such as OxyContin and Vicodin — contribute to more than 16,000 fatal overdoses annually and are the main reason drugs have surpassed traffic accidents as a cause of death in the U.S.

"At this point, virtually everyone recognizes that this is a serious problem that has been getting much worse," Frieden said in an interview with The Times. "What we now are figuring out is what's going to work to reverse it."

CDC researchers analyzed data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, an annual snapshot of the use of illegal drugs, such as heroin and cocaine, as well as the "nonmedical use" of prescription drugs. The survey is widely used by researchers to gauge the scope and contours of the nation's drug problem and by policymakers to determine how best to combat it.

But CDC researchers were puzzled by one aspect of the survey: It showed that prescription drug misuse had been flat in recent years, even as emergency room visits, treatment center admissions and overdose deaths involving medications all rose dramatically. So they decided to take a closer look by examining differences among various types of prescription drug abusers.

The survey asks where abusers most recently obtained their drugs. Previous analyses had lumped all types of prescription drug misuse — from occasional to chronic — together. Those analyses identified friends and family members as the most common source of misused prescription drugs, providing them for free in more than half the cases.
The new analysis found that for chronic abusers — people who took pills at least 200 days in the last year — doctors were the single most common source named, 27.3% of the cases. Friends and family members were still an important source at 26.4%. High-risk users also bought prescription drugs from friends and relatives (23.2%) and from dealers (15.2%).
Chronic use of narcotic painkillers is high risk because "every time you use the drug, it's another opportunity to overdose," said Dr. Leonard J. Paulozzi, an overdose prevention specialist at the CDC and one of the study's authors.

Until now, prevention efforts — such as drug "take back" days aimed at cleaning out home medicine cabinets — have emphasized the sources of prescription drugs for people who use them more casually.

Frieden said problem doctors are those "who may just not realize that the risks are so high and benefits so limited," as well as "a very small number of prescribers — who are using their medical licenses to sell drugs."

The Times' investigation identified 71 Southern California doctors who prescribed drugs to three or more patients who fatally overdosed from 2006 through 2011. Four of the doctors prescribed drugs to 10 or more patients who later died. One doctor, Dr. Van H. Vu of Huntington Beach, lost 16 patients to overdoses.

Vu and others interviewed for the article said they carefully screened patients before they began to prescribe narcotic painkillers and monitored their progress and compliance.
One of the doctors featured in the article, Dr. John Dimowo, was arrested last year and charged with prescribing painkillers and other commonly abused drugs to undercover agents pretending to be patients who had no legitimate need for the drugs. Dimowo has pleaded not guilty.

Frieden said authorities must do a better job of spotting inappropriate prescribing by using prescription drug monitoring programs, or PDMPs, such as the CURES database in California.
"There is a coalescing recognition of what's going to be important," he said. "One is clearly going to be PDMPs — and PDMPs that are mandatory, real time and actively monitored so that the folks running them identify problem patients and problem doctors."

The study was limited to people who admitted using drugs not as medical treatment but for the "feeling or experience" they cause. Christopher M. Jones, a senior advisor at the Food and Drug Administration, said people who use drugs as the doctor ordered aren't free from risk. He noted several recent studies have shown that the higher the prescribed dose of painkillers, the higher the risk of overdose.

Jones said he hoped the study would create an "appreciation that physicians are involved in both the problem, as well as the solution," and also encourage authorities to adopt guidelines "that improve how physicians prescribe."

In the wake of The Times' investigation of prescription drug deaths, the Medical Board of California formed a committee to develop new guidelines for how doctors prescribe narcotic painkillers. That task force began meeting last year.


http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-rx-source-20140304,0,3275352.story#ixzz2v0sPjwyE



I think it really important that the Medical Board of California seriously consider what happened back east when new regulations cut supply and access to pisll for many users resulting in a epic spkie in herion use and overdoses. If any new regulations go into effect then these must also address the current patients and their existing needs. Cause we all already know and have seen what idealistic prescription drug reform does. It causes current users and addicts to turn to herion.
 
Without improving prescription guidelines you may be setting up future patients to the same opioid addictions.

Switching over to heroin should be avoided.
 
This is why I think an approach that tackles both aspects would be best.. one that looks at new regulations to be put in place for new patients that require pain management, but other regulations and avenues for help to address current patients.. and i know I may get blasted by some irritated current pain patients about access to proper pain medication. but please take into consideration that i'm just trying to look at this as this board is going to make some changes and i doubt its going to loosen restrictions, so I'm just suggesting my opinion on a way they may consider.
 
Let everyone have whatever they want. Doctors should be advisers, nothing more.
 
I agree numbers but i dont think we have reached that point yet and this medical board may try and bring down some sort of hammer under the delusion it will do good... but they need to consider the actual results based off other regions that have totally screwed up.
 
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I assume these are long term pain sufferers who are getting more drug than they need for their pain and giving it to family or selling it on the street.

It seems the way to get this to stop would be to simply test for use through hair or urine; I do not see why any patient would object to getting tested.

What you seem to be saying is that the 23% of users relying on these prescriptions to get kicks would turn to buying heroin.

Is there any data on this that could be used to predict some kind of figure?
 
i rather have 10 people getting opiates they don't need than 1 person suffering because they can't get the opiates they really do need to treat their pain

i'm not an opiate user, so i say this with no personal agenda

i think you would have to be sociopathic to think otherwise. pharmaceutical opiates are extremely safe drugs, and there are many good treatments currently available for opiate dependence. i see no issue in prescribing these drugs liberally. the issue here is societal, not medical.
 
Roger, all I can picture is these 11 guys waiting inside the doctors office.

How long is this going to take?
 
look at how much trouble doctors get in when they are caught handing out pills - almost nothing. it's all on the state medical board sites' complaint/disciplinary pages. usually a handful of hours of training and a small fine.
sorry, but when prescription drugs are killing more people than all illegal drugs combined, it's not as simple as saying 'well doctors should just give patients whatever they want.' there is clearly a problem in the system, and i'm sure a lot of it comes down to the doctors handing out pills without any care besides money - whether it be for physically or emotionally numbing pills.
 
look at how much trouble doctors get in when they are caught handing out pills - almost nothing. it's all on the state medical board sites' complaint/disciplinary pages. usually a handful of hours of training and a small fine.
sorry, but when prescription drugs are killing more people than all illegal drugs combined, it's not as simple as saying 'well doctors should just give patients whatever they want.' there is clearly a problem in the system, and i'm sure a lot of it comes down to the doctors handing out pills without any care besides money - whether it be for physically or emotionally numbing pills.

My point of view on this may not be the majority point of view, or even the most responsible one, but it's based on the notion that personal freedom is supreme.

What I'm saying is, remove the prescription requirement, and relegate the doctor to the status of a consultant with absolutely no legal power. If I'm not mistaken, that's how it used to be before this war on drugs business came about.

Teach harm reduction in the public schools, and limit access to substances to those who are above an agreed-upon age of responsibility.

Our ancestors had even less restriction than this, and the human race thrived regardless.

Plus, unless some new information has emerged, there's no proof that increasing access increases fatal overdoses.
 
prescription drugs are killing more people than all illegal drugs combined

prescription drugs are inanimate objects, they aren't capable of killing anyone. what you're trying to say is that people are killing themselves by using prescription drugs improperly. this is mostly a cultural/educational problem, and also just due to the fact that a lot of people are fucking stupid.

i agree with numbers that personal freedom should be the highest priority. the idea that we should curtail personal freedoms to keep people from killing themselves is repugnant (additionally, we're already taking that approach and it clearly isn't working).

why should i give up my freedom because other grown ass people can't use drugs responsibly? that's their problem, not mine. it should not effect my life or curtail my freedoms.

this nanny state shit is for cowards anyway. life is dangerous, but i don't need anybody to protect me from it. i say give me freedom or give me death.
 
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Let everyone have whatever they want. Doctors should be advisers, nothing more

Two comments:

1)I recall the Hippocratic Oath saying something like "I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism."

2)When we all start dying horribly from antibiotic resistant diseases that are currently quite treatable, I'll know who to thank.

rog said:
i agree with numbers that personal freedom should be the highest priority. the idea that we should curtail personal freedoms to keep people from killing themselves is repugnant

As far as recreational drug use goes, I would consider that a problem of government policy, and it should in no way be incumbent upon the medical community to compromise their ethical standards to correct for a such a policy failure.

rog said:
i see no issue in prescribing these drugs liberally.

You are prescribed a drug to deal with an actual problem, if a qualified expert (i.e. your physcian) deems that the potential benefit outweighs the potential cost of using that drug for treatment. How are you not seeing any issues?
 
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My point of view on this may not be the majority point of view, or even the most responsible one, but it's based on the notion that personal freedom is supreme.

What I'm saying is, remove the prescription requirement, and relegate the doctor to the status of a consultant with absolutely no legal power. If I'm not mistaken, that's how it used to be before this war on drugs business came about.

Teach harm reduction in the public schools, and limit access to substances to those who are above an agreed-upon age of responsibility.

Our ancestors had even less restriction than this, and the human race thrived regardless.

Plus, unless some new information has emerged, there's no proof that increasing access increases fatal overdoses.

personal freedom is extremely important, and ideally it would be 'supreme' - but due to living in a society with major organizations guiding our behavior/attitudes, whether we like it or not, we also have to consider things like how to best control those organizations.
i really wish we could just count on teaching kids harm reduction and having responsible doctors give us good advice, but that is a long ways off, and for now we have to work with the system we have. a system full of doctors who only care about making money, full of poor people looking to make money in any way they can, full of gaps in access to and knowledge of drugs, full of sad people trying to fill the voids symptomatic of modern life.

if we just let doctors give out as much drugs as they want in the name of personal freedom, often without any examination or advice, this rewards the degradation of the prestige of doctors everywhere, the black market/taboo-ification of pain problems, more access to drugs for people who resell them to people who don't really need them or aren't informed about them.

my main point is - if doctors are trained for around a decade and bestowed with all this respect, power and money, maybe we should hold them to high standards when it comes to handing out pills that have become a very serious problem for america. there is virtually no punishment for flagrant offenders from what i can tell.
yes, ideally people could just learn about drugs online, there would be well funded databases full of information and doctors would barely be necessary, and the drugs would be so cheap that people wouldn't have to steal, etc. when they became addicted - because they surely don't cost that much to make.
but right now, an easy step, in my mind, is to get doctors in more trouble when they over-prescribe and don't bother screening customers for dealers/addicts or discussing alternative pain management therapies. at the very least it should piss you off that they get to walk around with all this gravity, like their shit doesn't stink, when they are basically glorified drug dealers (in reference to corrupt 'pain specialists' and psychiatrists) and people are going to jail for much less. and it's not just over-prescribing, doctors get away with mistreating patients and all manner of fucked up things all the time. it seems that the medical boards protect them for the most part, which isn't surprising since they are made up of doctors.
 
prescription drugs are inanimate objects, they aren't capable of killing anyone. what you're trying to say is that people are killing themselves by using prescription drugs improperly. this is mostly a cultural/educational problem, and also just due to the fact that a lot of people are fucking stupid.

i agree with numbers that personal freedom should be the highest priority. the idea that we should curtail personal freedoms to keep people from killing themselves is repugnant (additionally, we're already taking that approach and it clearly isn't working).

why should i give up my freedom because other grown ass people can't use drugs responsibly? that's their problem, not mine. it should not effect my life or curtail my freedoms.

this nanny state shit is for cowards anyway. life is dangerous, but i don't need anybody to protect me from it. i say give me freedom or give me death.

excuse my non-literalism. just because people are 'fucking stupid' doesn't mean they deserve to die or nothing can be done to help them. this is the kind of mentality that helps those in power not feel bad for the consequences of their actions. mcdonalds execs can sit back and feel no guilt about their help in the obesity epidemic, because it's people's fault they weren't properly educated about how addictive mcdonalds is before their parents put the burger in their mouth and got them hooked. it's their fault for depending on food so much for pleasure - they should find better tv shows to watch or masturbate more or take prozac.

again we're talking idealistically, where people are well informed and the organizations/institutions that serve them aren't corrupt. in that environment, yes - let people do the drugs they want because they are hypothetically well informed and the drug companies and doctors are responsible and not going to help them nail their coffin closed.

sorry, but your whole approach to this complex problem is to simplify it to a freedom issue, when there are many more factors. i just see that as idealism.
 
Speaking as a current pain clinic patient and have been prescribed to every opiate in the book, I have seen first hand from myself and a few friends how easy it is just to have drugs handed to you. I am not sure why they do this so much around here, I think they get more funding or whatever by prescribing more things or prescribing drugs that are currently being pushed for wider use by drug companies? Whatever the reason they are giving out so much, there needs to be more medical examinations and absolute proof that the patients have these pains that they are claiming to have. Whether this means monitoring or whatever, there needs to be better tests with conclusive answers to what kind of pain and how serious the pain is in these people.

Some of these people that are abusing the system are really going to end up screwing me and thousands of others who are really in pain, out of their medications. I have CRPS which is an extremely painful problem I have been dealing with, and it is really annoying hearing these people lying to doctors to get their highs which when they get caught, ruins the trust doctors have with their patients and sometimes take it out on the real patients who need them
 
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i don't think mcdonalds executives should feel guilty about the obesity epidemic, i think they should be laughing all the way to the bank at the people who keep eating their terrible 'food'. where does personal responsibility come into this discussion? are people no longer responsible for their own well being? if they're not, who is?

but yeah, NKB's comment about antibiotic resistance is making me rethink some of my comments though. that is one nuance i didn't think about, and kinda throws a wrench in some of my earlier conjectures (touché, my good man. touché). i think the issue of opiates and pain management is different though, because its impossible for a doctor to know objectively how much pain a patient is in, so its best to err on the side of liberal prescribing in that instance. WRT the issue of antibiotic resistance, doctors can assay/biopsy and assess the existence and extent of infection. this is not possible to do relative to pain, there is no objective assay that can be performed to determine whether or not a patient is actually in pain.

i firmly believe that nobody should be left in pain because doctors are afraid of giving out too many pain pills. toxicologically, pharmaceutical opiates are extremely safe, and dependence is treatable. the problem is massively overblown, and i firmly believe that free access to adequate pain relief should be a basic human right. it literally terrifies and sickens me to think that someday i could end up with severe, chronic pain and not be able to get adequate pain relief because some people i don't even know took too much and OD'd.
 
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excuse my non-literalism. just because people are 'fucking stupid' doesn't mean they deserve to die or nothing can be done to help them. this is the kind of mentality that helps those in power not feel bad for the consequences of their actions. mcdonalds execs can sit back and feel no guilt about their help in the obesity epidemic, because it's people's fault they weren't properly educated about how addictive mcdonalds is before their parents put the burger in their mouth and got them hooked. it's their fault for depending on food so much for pleasure - they should find better tv shows to watch or masturbate more or take prozac.


again we're talking idealistically, where people are well informed and the organizations/institutions that serve them aren't corrupt. in that environment, yes - let people do the drugs they want because they are hypothetically well informed and the drug companies and doctors are responsible and not going to help them nail their coffin closed.

sorry, but your whole approach to this complex problem is to simplify it to a freedom issue, when there are many more factors. i just see that as idealism.

ALSO, to add, I am a firm believer of getting some natural selection back in this world so we don't get over populated. If idiots want to play the "I wasn't taught better" card, I have no pity for them when they do stupid shit that gets them killed
 
ALSO, to add, I am a firm believer of getting some natural selection back in this world so we don't get over populated. If idiots want to play the "I wasn't taught better" card, I have no pity for them when they do stupid shit that gets them killed

as harsh as it is to say, i pretty much agree with this. its not that i don't pity people for their bad decisions, i've made plenty myself, its just that that is the way life goes.

its a harsh reality that people die from their own ignorance, but if we want to change that situation, the proper route is through education not legislation. give the people the tools that they need to keep themselves safe, and if they choose not to use them then that is their problem.

but again, how does NKB's point about antibiotics play into this? i don't know. perhaps legislation is necessary in that instance because that effects not just individuals, but the entire human race. if people misuse antibiotics, they're not just screwing themselves, but everybody at once. its definitely a different issue than pain medication imho
 
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ALSO, to add, I am a firm believer of getting some natural selection back in this world so we don't get over populated. If idiots want to play the "I wasn't taught better" card, I have no pity for them when they do stupid shit that gets them killed

I'm no big fan of reverse evolution either. On the other hand how much does addiction and overdose have to do with intelligence as a whole?
 
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