DrixR4Gidz
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- Dec 8, 2023
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So, I was on Suboxone for 5 years and the drug just started poisoning me; it was a laundry list of side effects and I had to get off. But I have been through sub WDs before and I didn't want the multiple month process to be so long so I tried using heroin for 30 days so that I would detox from a normal opiate instead of sub (don't do this unless you are truly confident that you can stop, I barely could and needed my girlfriend to basically lock me up). I'm not sure if it worked but I am pretty sure it did....the problem is that I started taking Kratom and my normal withdrawal timeline got muddied and prolonged. I am 33 and I just don't feel like I have the strength or energy to go through these kind of withdrawals anymore. I was using almost a gram a day of heroin when I jumped off of it. I started supplementing with kratom to make the withdrawals easier. What seems to have happened is that taking kratom prolonged the WDs. I would take 2 or 3 grams every 4 to 5 hours and I have been sick for 15 days. The withdrawals weren't as hard as they should have been but just seemed to be longer and lighter. Every day has gotten easier. Yesterday I finally went out of the house and got a haircut, I went out again today and cleaned the house. The main point is that after 15 days of remaining fairly constant with about 10-13 grams of kratom a day since the beginning, the sickness has finally gotten a lot better. In that time, the kratom has never gotten me high or even buzzed. I am thoroughly convinced that the withdrawals from the amount of heroin I was intravenously using was by far and away going to be way worse than the habit of kratom that I have now. I guess I am just scared because I went through kratom WDs like 10 years ago and I have no memory of them. Does anybody who has gone through both heroin and kratom withdrawals have any insight? How does the agony of an almost $80 a day IV heroin habit compare with what seems like a super weak 13g a day kratom habit?
I want to believe that I am just being paranoid but opiate withdrawals are so treacherous and I just have no idea what I am in for. I'm tired. I don't have much fight left in me. My plan now is to use ULDN (ultra low dose naltrexone) to taper down the kratom. But since the kratom doesn't get me high at all, I can't tell how much ULDN to use. I started at 1.25 micrograms but now am taking around 100 micrograms because I could swear I felt a difference when I took more. I guess that's a bonus topic if anyone has insight on that. Thanks for any help, I hope this is easy enough to make sense of. Feel free to ask for any clarification.
PS: Is there anyone who has any guesses on how much stronger morphine is than kratom?
I want to believe that I am just being paranoid but opiate withdrawals are so treacherous and I just have no idea what I am in for. I'm tired. I don't have much fight left in me. My plan now is to use ULDN (ultra low dose naltrexone) to taper down the kratom. But since the kratom doesn't get me high at all, I can't tell how much ULDN to use. I started at 1.25 micrograms but now am taking around 100 micrograms because I could swear I felt a difference when I took more. I guess that's a bonus topic if anyone has insight on that. Thanks for any help, I hope this is easy enough to make sense of. Feel free to ask for any clarification.
PS: Is there anyone who has any guesses on how much stronger morphine is than kratom?