Don't know what this was in reference to exactly, but it fits into the context of what I wanted to write about in this thread.
So I've been using Kratom to kick suboxone, well, that's sort of a lie, I've been replacing subs with kratom. The first week, it was fucking awesome. I mean, kratom is an awesome leaf, a fucking opiate and a stimulant depending on how much or little you take? Very cool. However, like always I tended to go overboard, and in the last few days, I saw kratom's ugly side. This I now realize, is something I am completely responsible for, but would like to share my experience for other's sake.
For the first five days I had just purchased some head shop 'Maeng Da' and 'superior Malaysian' blends, the brand was 'Kratom Therapy', which actually wasn't bad. But anyway, I had one 50 count bottle of each (so 100 capsules). Because of this, I could only take so much because I didn't want to run out too early, so the max dose I would take was 7.5 grams for an opioid effect, and 3.5g for a more stimulant mood lift effect. However, last friday, I went all out and bought a kilogram of 'Red Bali/Indo', and this was the beginning of my four day 'kratom' binge. I found, as many do that Bali has more pain-killing effects, like a typical opiate, so don't you know, I began dosing 14-21g's 3x a day (as I HAD a whole Kilo). This worked good and well for about two days, and I was literally passing out at my laptop, in between blue light posts, and writing ridiculous offensive stories to share with the web. However, on the third day, I woke up, took approximately 21 grams with my morning coffee, and within half an hour, I felt the opposite of sedated, but was rather tweaking out, and experiencing weird visual effects that reminded me a bit of MDMA mixed with THC. Needless to say, I felt rather miserable as I was twitching uncontrollably to the point I couldn't hold a pencil, which is rather debilitating for me.
I had been under the impression, that lower dosages of kratom created a stimulant effect, and that in higher dosages it works like an opioid, which is true. I thought that what had happened was that I had simply raised my tolerance, so that 15g's created a speedy/twitch effect and that, logically, it would now just take larger dosages to get a nod on. I was wrong though. Yesterday, I consumed possibly 60g of kratom throughout the day, and felt fucking GOD AWFUL, similar to the sensation of doing a fat shot of crystal while simultaneously withdrawing acutely from a large benzodiazepine habit. Warped visual's, paranoia, aggression, feelings of electricity running down my spine, shaking to the point where I was spilling my coffee and dropping my cigarettes (and thought I'd mention, caffeine and tobacco made these symptoms MUCH worse). By night time, the more extreme effects had faded, but I still felt super uncomfortable, like I was stuck in an episode of the twilight zone. It was like what I imagine a 'tramadol high' to feel like, mu agonism with nasty sertonergic effects. I should also state that my face had gone from its usual pale white pallor to being flushed red, though I imagine this is due to my hep C compromised liver.
So all today I felt fucking god awful, and was so afraid to take more kratom, that I let myself go into withdrawal for a good eight hours, before, reluctantly taking 5 or 6 grams. Well to my surprise, I am now feeling pretty fucking good, the kratom's 'working again'. I guess that since I'd been using it for such a short period of time, waiting approximately 24 hours was enough to reduce my tolerance quite drastically. But the lesson I learned is that basically, somewhat like buprenorphine, less can be more with kratom, at a certain point. I don't know if that goes with all strains, but definitely with this Bali/Indo stuff I got, I'll be sticking to a dose between 3-9 grams, and only dose when I start to feel withdrawal symptoms coming on. I'm glad I didn't permanently fuck kratom up for myself, yet, because I think it's a really cool drug, when used correctly.
