I've always wondered if I've been buying bunk kratom, or if perhaps other sources are adulterating their kratom with something else. o-desmethyl-tramadol was found in Krypton Kratom and I always wonder if vendors are spiking their Kratom with low doses of mitraphylline or oDesmeth.
I've been a multiple times daily Kratom user for the past 3 years. I usually end up dosing at least twice in an 8-10 hour shift at work (I work very hard manual labor). I've run out a few times in those 3 years, and it hasn't been near as bad as what other people describe. I even go on 45mg per day oxycodone binges maybe 5 days at the beginning of the month when my friend has his pills to sell, and when it ends I just use kratom to counteract the withdrawals.
I've NEVER had withdrawls from kratom, or even when my opiate binge ends. I ran out of kratom over thanksgiving weekend last year due to poor planning. I had some derealization, a "weird" feeling in my head but not necessarily a headache (im sure other opiate users know what i mean), maybe head pressure is the best way to describe it, and I also had the depression/anxiety that I was self-medicating with opioids with come back.
I have a theory its because before Kratom I used 800-1000mg of tramadol per day, ocassionally using xanax to raise the seizure threshold to chase that non-existant tram high. Coming off trams was the worse experience of my life. It was 2 weeks of not knowing who I was, being tired all day but not being able to sleep, extreme nausea, no appetite, spinning head, vertigo ,just all around terrible. Since then small opiate binges (45mg of oxy for 3-5 days) especially when I taper and say take like a perc 10 at the end of my binge, have no affect on me. Maybe it's because my first run in with withdrawal was just SO bad that I always expect more than I get out of withdrawal.
Kratom withdrawal is like tramadols baby brother. I get all the same symptoms, but not nearly as severe, and honestly it's not bad at all. It's nothing that ephedra, and large dose of caffeine can't fix for lethargy in the day, and etizolam every other night for sleep really help. Even with I come off oxy I do feel "off" for about a week (mostly minor head pressure and some loose stools), but it's not too bad.
Also, I used to smoke that spice from japan that had AH-7921 which is a synthetic opioid. Believe it was called Tiger Dragon or something to that affect? The withdrawal from that was also terrible, as I smoked that stuff 20+ times per day not realizing it was an opioid. So my theory is if you've been through heroin, or bad tramadol or oxy withdrawals before the kratom withdrawals arent so bad because you've been through the ringer. However if you've never had any sort of withdrawal, it can take you by surprise.