MysticBrew
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- Apr 4, 2022
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Hello everyone, new bluelight user here, long time lurker.
I have a question that I do not think can be obviously answered by anybody, but after finding many varying answers in my researches the past couple of days, I thought I should pose the question myself, to see what knowledge and experience the current bl community may have to offer. Before I ask it, I think I should say a bit about my recent use of kratom, which I am now three days completely clean from.
Put briefly, I had been a daily kratom user for somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-3 years. When I say daily, I mean DAILY. I don't think I took a break from it a single day in all that time. At most I would use close to an ounce a day (on rare occasion), but typically I would hover at around 10-20 grams per day, spread through 2 to 3 doses per day. Due to recent financial struggles (I am pretty much broke), I have run completely out of kratom and do not intend to order anymore until I get back on my feet money-wise, even then I might not buy it for a while. As I am typing, I am now at about the 72 hour mark since my last dose of Kratom. In the past when I have cut myself off from it, I would experience a bit of impoverished mood--very mild--runny nose, general weakness and aches, but never anything close to what I experience stopping classic opiates cold turkey. Opiate withdrawal has always been FAR more hellish in comparison to kratom IME, I don't even want to know what Benzo w/d would be like (not a benzo guy).
All this to say that I have been using kratom fairly heavily long-term without any breaks at all, not even 24 hours. Now I am 3 days clean and feel FINE, great actually. The "kratom withdrawal" is not what I am worried about, nor is it why I am posting here. I am posting because I have a 30 mg oxy on standby, waiting for the right time to use it. Thus my question is, for those who may have some sense about this sort of thing, when might be the right time for me to take it? For those who don't know, kratom is notorious for killing opiate highs when people take it with, say, OC's, hydro's, even H I think. I remember when I first got into Kratom years back, I thought combining it with an OC30 such as I have now would make for a pleasant evening of euphoria and nods. I was SO upset I remember when, after I had taken the kratom already, I took the OC and felt absolutely none of its usual charm. ZIP, nothing. I then looked up how kratom interacts with other opiates and found people everywhere saying the same thing, it rendered the opiate used ineffective. Money down the drain.
At the moment the temptation to take the OC and have a pleasant experience is not so strong, for I fear it is too early and that whatever of the kratom remains in my system will diminish or kill the effects even after 3 whole days of abstinence. The going plan is to wait at least 6-7 days before I try, or to go even longer, which should not be difficult so long as I keep busy. I am going to stretch out as long as I possibly can. Now, I have found threads on bl and elsewhere in which people have said the most various things. Someone will say one can use an opiate after a day of kratom abstinence (or non-use) with good effect, another will say 3-4 days, another still a week, and at last, just a few moments ago, I was browsing google when I saw a couple of reddit users saying that kratom stays in your system for ~17 days to a whole month. Boy, I do not want to wait that long, but there is so much uncertainty on this subject it seems. In my defense, the people claiming a few days or a week to be sufficient seem to have more grounds for their assertions. I'm sure it varies by person. Me, I am a skinny 25 year old male with minimal body fat (10% give or take), a very rapid metabolism, get lots of exercise and good sleep, no health concerns impeding my bodily or mental function. Confessedly, I am just somebody who likes to use. Some things regularly, others only on occasion. Cannabis and kratom have a safety profile which permit me to use them regularly with positive results, though I am cutting both out because I don't have the money anymore. I occasionally use OC's and various psychs.
So, bl community, if you were in my position and had an OC at hand that may or may not work if you took it right now, what would you do? How long should I wait? All research, experience reports, etc. that may serve to answer this question are greatly appreciated. I am sure I am not the only one who has been in this predicament, maybe now you find yourself in the same situation! Cheers, glad to be a part of the family.
-MB
I have a question that I do not think can be obviously answered by anybody, but after finding many varying answers in my researches the past couple of days, I thought I should pose the question myself, to see what knowledge and experience the current bl community may have to offer. Before I ask it, I think I should say a bit about my recent use of kratom, which I am now three days completely clean from.
Put briefly, I had been a daily kratom user for somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-3 years. When I say daily, I mean DAILY. I don't think I took a break from it a single day in all that time. At most I would use close to an ounce a day (on rare occasion), but typically I would hover at around 10-20 grams per day, spread through 2 to 3 doses per day. Due to recent financial struggles (I am pretty much broke), I have run completely out of kratom and do not intend to order anymore until I get back on my feet money-wise, even then I might not buy it for a while. As I am typing, I am now at about the 72 hour mark since my last dose of Kratom. In the past when I have cut myself off from it, I would experience a bit of impoverished mood--very mild--runny nose, general weakness and aches, but never anything close to what I experience stopping classic opiates cold turkey. Opiate withdrawal has always been FAR more hellish in comparison to kratom IME, I don't even want to know what Benzo w/d would be like (not a benzo guy).
All this to say that I have been using kratom fairly heavily long-term without any breaks at all, not even 24 hours. Now I am 3 days clean and feel FINE, great actually. The "kratom withdrawal" is not what I am worried about, nor is it why I am posting here. I am posting because I have a 30 mg oxy on standby, waiting for the right time to use it. Thus my question is, for those who may have some sense about this sort of thing, when might be the right time for me to take it? For those who don't know, kratom is notorious for killing opiate highs when people take it with, say, OC's, hydro's, even H I think. I remember when I first got into Kratom years back, I thought combining it with an OC30 such as I have now would make for a pleasant evening of euphoria and nods. I was SO upset I remember when, after I had taken the kratom already, I took the OC and felt absolutely none of its usual charm. ZIP, nothing. I then looked up how kratom interacts with other opiates and found people everywhere saying the same thing, it rendered the opiate used ineffective. Money down the drain.
At the moment the temptation to take the OC and have a pleasant experience is not so strong, for I fear it is too early and that whatever of the kratom remains in my system will diminish or kill the effects even after 3 whole days of abstinence. The going plan is to wait at least 6-7 days before I try, or to go even longer, which should not be difficult so long as I keep busy. I am going to stretch out as long as I possibly can. Now, I have found threads on bl and elsewhere in which people have said the most various things. Someone will say one can use an opiate after a day of kratom abstinence (or non-use) with good effect, another will say 3-4 days, another still a week, and at last, just a few moments ago, I was browsing google when I saw a couple of reddit users saying that kratom stays in your system for ~17 days to a whole month. Boy, I do not want to wait that long, but there is so much uncertainty on this subject it seems. In my defense, the people claiming a few days or a week to be sufficient seem to have more grounds for their assertions. I'm sure it varies by person. Me, I am a skinny 25 year old male with minimal body fat (10% give or take), a very rapid metabolism, get lots of exercise and good sleep, no health concerns impeding my bodily or mental function. Confessedly, I am just somebody who likes to use. Some things regularly, others only on occasion. Cannabis and kratom have a safety profile which permit me to use them regularly with positive results, though I am cutting both out because I don't have the money anymore. I occasionally use OC's and various psychs.
So, bl community, if you were in my position and had an OC at hand that may or may not work if you took it right now, what would you do? How long should I wait? All research, experience reports, etc. that may serve to answer this question are greatly appreciated. I am sure I am not the only one who has been in this predicament, maybe now you find yourself in the same situation! Cheers, glad to be a part of the family.
-MB