Good to hear the positive reports on every JWH-x I've seen. Anyone done a run with tetrahydroindole??
I can't find much info on this one... is it another name for the hybrid cannabinoid JWH-161?
EDIT: Tetrahydroindole is just a substituted version of indole in which the benzene ring has had two of its double bonds removed! it would not be likely to have pharmacological activity... unless you were referring to an analog of JWH-018 in which the indole ring has been substituted with tetrahydroindole. I have done a brief search and not found any data on this compound or if it has even been synth'd. Interesting idea though, even if that's not what you were asking
I am wondering whether these compounds are more related to hash [pure THC], than marijuana which has other cannabanoids?
the metabolization and half life would be similar. the possibility of creating a drug test to detect this wouldn't be hard considering MS tech.??
I have also heard of either high levels and/or mixtures of these synth. compounds are likely to result in a positive drug test. though I don't necessarily believe it.
These synthetic cannabinoids are similar in concept to hash or pure THC (i.e. they are pure compounds that display cannabinoid-activity), but the similarities end there. Most of these are aminoalkylindoles, which are NOT similar in structure to the dibenzopyran or "classical cannabinoids" found in cannabis.
I'm pretty sure the ones that were resulting in positive test results were of the dibenzopyran family, like THC, CBD, and HU-210. It's possible that some of the CP-series may also give positive results, but I can't see a reasonable explanation for why any aminoalkylindole could show up... but yes, new tests are already on their way! I know they exist now, but no idea as to where or whether they are being implemented!
EDIT: Since it was banned at the federal level, they may start implementing JWH drug tests! 018, 019, 073, 200, AM-2201 (and any other naphthoylindole which has no substitutions on the naphthalene ring) share common metabolites and would all result in a positive drug test.
Luckily, as 250 is still legal and has a phenylacetyl group in place of the naphthoyl group, a separate test would be needed.
The real question is whether the metabolites of certain naphthalene ring-substituted naphthoylindoles from the legal gray area would result in a false positive. (i.e. 081, 122, 210) To determine this, we need to observe whether the 4-methoxy, 4-methyl. or 4-ethyl groups are cleaved during metabolism. These functional groups may remain uncleaved, as metabolism starts at the tail end with many cannabimimetic indoles. If the groups are cleaved, then we are again left with the same shared metabolite as the scheduled compounds. If not, it could still be structurally close enough for a positive test result, depending on what manner of testing they use... to be conclusive I would need to know more about their specific methods.