Bupe iv'ing buprenophine and needle fixation
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Hmmm....You know it depends on the person's perspective about the way u r talking of consuming the bupe...Mabye u can convince ur self that taking it that way is not homosexual...That's up to the person...But don't tell me that in most cases it's not a gay act...Just think about it man...From so many ways of consuming it,u choose to take it up the ass...To get a pleasure from putting something in ur asshole... :D I don't know what size is the rectal syringe and i don't wanna know... I think that this tells a lot...Fuck it man just fuckin snort it...But that way... Just not my thing..However i don't judge on how some1 takes his drug,it's up to them.Because this thing we do is kind of a ritual.Apart from being addicted to the drug,u become addicted to the ritual.The whole preparation,(let's not mention that ur doing something that's sociably unaxeptable-whitch gives u a thrill),the first cigarette and etc.I don't see why some1 would like to ritualise such an act..Pleasure from behind..Exept if it is some kind of fethis to them.Mabye it is practiced in the medicine for some special cases,but if u r doing it constantly on ur own...It resembles a sexual act...But nvm,every man to his own( i think i hit the phrase correctly).
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I'm assuming that u think of doing H while on bupe...If u do H the same day u did bupe u wont feel the H.You have to let at least a day go by and then u can feel the H.But if u want to rlly feel it u should not take bupe at least 2-3 days.I don't know how long r u taking bupe but if u r a long time user it builds up into ur sistem and it's hard for u to get the maximum feel from any opiate.And be very carefull if u wanna shoot H while on bupe therapy...Your H tolerance falls and u may accidentaly OD.(If u were doing big quantities of H)That also depends on do u take H occasionaly while on the therapy...It's the best not to do both of them the same day.But if u choose to shoot H start with a small shot.Just in case.You may be surprised how much ur tolerance has fallen down.But if u take bupe constanty it shouldn't be much of a problem cause it is already in ur sistem.Just rember not to shoot ur self with a big dose.(as u used to)...make it smaller than ussual.
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(LOL, sorry about the length of this post, I'm moderately buzzed right now and i just rambled on. I'll get to you with the rest of the tips and my guide ASAP...)
Well, depending on a number of variables (for examples, your own personal genetics/system or the cleanliness of your rectum [whether it's full of shit or not]), heroin's rectal bioavailability can be quite high. It's hard to find numbers on it, but based on ones I've seen in the past, between 70%-95% is a good estimate of how much gets absorbed into your system from the whole dose when you administer it rectally and you had a bowel movement before the dose. 95% would definitely at least be approaching the upper limit. I've seen 99% listed before, from a mod on this very forum, but I don't know if I can agree with that much. That means you'd need to use between 5%-30% as much more as if you went the IV route. But still, that's a huge gain, compare that to oral heroin at ~35% (65% more to use for equal effects), smoked heroin at 52%-55% (45-48% to get equal effects), or intranasal at 44%-61% (39-56% more to get equal effects). Really, the only things that can be higher than rectal admin are intramuscular and intravenous injections, with IM being ~85% and IV being 100%. So rectal administration can sometimes even be higher than an IM injection, and occasionally, depending on circumstantial variables, it can be only 5% less efficient than an actual IV shot.
You do get a rush, but it is somewhat less potent of a rush than an IV shot. Still, it is very powerful, with many people suggesting it is as, or more, powerful than an IM injection. What happens is that it takes longer to start, lasts a bit longer, and is less overwhelming, but all in all very worth it, and it you use a high enough dose it CAN rival IV admin.
Takes about 30mins. MAX to kick in, more likely to be 10-15 mins, though, again, circumstantial variables would change this. The biggest difference is that the rush isn't instantaneous, but washes over you a little bit after you've administered it.
Basically, to administer, you need to have had a bowel movement, then you dissolve your heroin or bupe in water (maybe with a small amount of alcohol to up the bioavailability even more), and then you put it up your rectum about 2-4 index finger middle knuckle lengths. It doesn't have to go in far, really just an inch or two. It's definitely not like being fingered or fucked in the ass. It's literally only in there for a second, and after you squirt your homemade suppository in, you take it out. At this point, you have to lie down on your side, for about 5 minutes, at most 10. This allows the blood vessels in your rectum to absorb the drug fully, straight into the bloodstream.
Why people would think that's gay, I don't understand. It's what the rectum is meant to do, absorb water, some nutrients/minerals, and other soluble substances. The only way to make it gay is if you yourself make it gay. If you just think of it as what it actually is, merely a way to take a drug, no different than smoking, shooting, snorting, or parachuting, then I fail to see why it should bother someone. The only reason I can think of is that you have some sort of deep-seated aversion/fear/complex that compels you to feel anxiety over something as innocuous as administering a drug. Where the drug goes has NOTHING to do with how it feels, at least, not beyond bioavailability. Using a rectal administration technique just means you're being smart, because you save a LOT of your money and drugs, while still getting a type of rush, and getting a great high after the rush. The best part is that you risk very little at all. No dangers near what their is for IM or IV injections.
Sure, I understand that others may have a different perspective on rectal administration of drugs. What I can't get my head around is why you think that doing something to yourself that is not in any way inherently sexual should get the label of "gay". Again, I mean no offence, but it just seems silly to me. I'm not gay, and have no desire to be fucked in the ass whatsoever. That said, an oral syringe is not a cock. Just like a lollipop or popsicle is not a cock. You don't call it gay when you put a popsicle/lollipop in your mouth, even though it's certainly a phallic looking object. Not unless you are putting it in your mouth in a sexual manner, then it is just a neutral action. It's not gay, it's not straight, it's just a thing you can do. Sure, if you fuck yourself in the ass with an oral syringe, yeah, you could make a case for that being gay. But why would you do that if you're not gay? lol, you just put it one to two inches into the rectum, squeeze out the liquid, and then boom, you're done. It takes less than half a minute, if that. How the f*** is that gay?
See, that's the thing, I'm NOT "convincing myself" that it's not homosexual to administer a drug rectally. It actually isn't, for all intents and purposes it is a neutral act; not sexual in the least. I don't mean to offend and please don't take this the wrong way, but since logically, biologically, and chemically, this route of administration makes sense and is not at all linked to any kind of inherent sexuality, it would be the person who chooses to see sexuality in it (thinking it's "gay") who is convincing themselves of something. Acts that don't give you sexual pleasure are not considered to be sexual acts in any way. The only reason to think of them as gay is if you are unreasonably afraid of "gayness"/"being gay"/"looking gay". I think I'd know if I was gay, don't you? And, yet, in the privacy of my own home, I can plug any drug I want. You just have preconceptions that make you unable to view it any other way, and that's on you, not me. I know it's not gay, but you have chosen to be convinced that it is (for whatever reason).
To put it another way, logically, I don't have to prove a negative, because that's not how logic works. You have to prove a positive. If I say that I have a dragon/unicorn in my garage, and you don't believe me, that's fine, because the burden of proof lies with me, because I made the positive statement "there is a dragon in my garage". You make the negative statement that "no, there is no dragon." You can't prove a negative, so the onus is on the person making a claim to provide its proof. So consider this difference in perspective on rectal administration: This time YOU are the one making a positive statement ("Rectal drug administration is "gay"), while I make the negative statement "No, rectal drug administration is neutral and without an intrinsic sexual nature").
Since I make the negative, I need not prove my statement here. You are the one who must prove that such an act is, by its very nature, "gay". Until you do prove that, you are the one who has convinced himself of something, def. not me. That's just basic logic, you have to prove your positive statement. Just feeling that something "is" doesn't truly make it so.
lol, I mean, dude, you shit, don't you? Your shit is several times bigger than a small oral syringe. An oral syringe is neither a dildo nor a cock. It is a tiny thing, it can be smaller than a pencil. It's just another ROA (route of administration). You literally barely feel it, and to get caught up in worrying that it's gay, when the pleasure comes from the drug, not the syringe, is just silly and illogical.
Yep, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But that doesn't mean everyone's opinion is right or logical. Some abide by the rules of logic and operate from a rational standpoint using scientific methods. People have every right to their own opinions, but having that right doesn't mean you have the right to your opinion being respected as necessarily correct. For that to be one's right, one'd have to prove whatever positive claim one'd made.
Why shouldn't I? It's not a "gay act", lol. I should know, being straight and having done it myself. Or the many people I've known in the past who do it to save money, drugs, and veins. If the person doing it doesn't think it's gay, based upon sound logic, than how can it be gay? Again, I'm making the negative statement here. I say it's not gay, not unless you want it to be, fantasize it to be, or imagine it to be. So unless you have proof that it is "gay", beyond the "eew, that's icky, and since I irrationally feel that it is a sexual act, it is!", then you can't say it's gay. Not logically. Your personal taboos don't count as proof, unfortunately.
I could just as easily claim that masturbation is "gay". "Oh, dude! You're touching a cock, a penis! Wow, that's gay, dude. How can that not be gay! Don't tell me that masturbating yourself isn't gay, you're touching a prick, even if it is your own, that's gay!" Or that breastfeeding is somehow paedophilia: "Wow, tits are for sexual purposes because they brings sexual pleasure to both males and females, and you're letting infants feed from them! Damn, that's paedophilia, because of course a body part that is involved in sexual acts of some kind in some situations can ONLY be defined from those acts! Since breasts are can be used sexually, then doing ANYTHING with them MUST be sexual! Who cares if it's not inherently sexual, other things done with breasts are sexual acts, so EVERYTHING you do with breasts is sexual!"
Or even better, it's more equivalent to a female giving herself a self breast exam. Again, breasts can be a part of sexuality for both men and women (in different ways). So, just like a rectum CAN be part of sexuality for both men (gay sex, or straight prostate massage by a girl) and women (anal sex by a man or a strap-on wearing female), the breasts can be used in sexual acts. But, just because you use your breasts in another fashion to accomplish a non-sexual goal (checking for breast lumps by feeling them all over), does not suddenly mean that doing that action is sexual by nature. A woman is not a lesbian because she feels her own boobs for health reasons, and a man is not gay just because he uses his rectum for a purpose that is not at all sexual, dosing a drug in one of the most effective routes available. Can't you see that?
HOW you use a body part is what makes it sexual. It's not sexual until it's giving you SEXUAL pleasure. Getting high FROM A DRUG is NOT sexual pleasure. Therefore, using any body part for the SOLE PURPOSE of GETTING HIGH, not SEXUALITY, can NEVER be "gay".
By all means, feel free to prove that it is, but please use logic and preferably available scientific evidence, don't just say that it is because you feel it is without any real describable explanation for why it is.
I don't take opiates anymore, except my suboxone. Even that I rarely want to plug. But, yeah, I've plugged before and I'll probably plug again. What's so hard to understand about getting at least TWICE as MUCH BANG for YOUR BUCK? Why shouldn't I save money and drug volume? Because other people mistakenly think it's "gay"/"immoral"/socially-unacceptable"? In terms of bioavailability, it's generally vastly superior to use rectal admin. as opposed to oral or intranasal, and can often be much better than inhaled/smoked, and even more efficient than IM injection, at times.
Why should that be gay, unless I get pleasure from it in a sexual way? Why should you be the one who decides whether someone else's actions are "gay"? You only know if your own actions are gay, you're the only one who "feels" the pleasure of your own acts. So, yeah, if you think it feels/sounds gay to use a superior method of drug administration, so be it. But, frankly, that says more about you than me.
"To get a pleasure from putting something in ur asshole..."
No. More accurately, it is to get pleasure from applying a drug solution to a mucous membrane, after which the drug alters brain chemistry. It is absolutely no different than the mouth's oral membranes, or nasal membranes, or intestinal membranes after the stomach. It's a way to get a drug into your blood, not a way to get pleasure in and of itself. The pleasure comes later, when the drug reaches your brain, and has nothing to do with the actual administration.
Well, I already posted it in reply to the guy above you, so I'll say it again (sorry, lol): Less than a pencil width. It can be at LEAST as small as the width of an IV syringe.
I think it tells a lot more about your preconceptions and perceptions than it does about the guy who plugs it so he can get better effects without once even THINKING that it's gay. I just don't get why you have to think in those terms. Again, it's not a cock, nor is it a dildo, and the pleasure doesn't come from it, it comes from a drug going into your veins and to your brain, just like any other ROA (like snorted or smoked).
Why? Why should you snort it and need twice or more as much when you can just plug it and get much better effects? You're the one choosing to make it gay. If you're secure in your sexuality and you know you are straight, then why the hell would you think just administering a drug is gay, regardless of which route is used? It's not gay unless you choose it to be so.
Well, depending on a number of variables (for examples, your own personal genetics/system or the cleanliness of your rectum [whether it's full of shit or not]), heroin's rectal bioavailability can be quite high. It's hard to find numbers on it, but based on ones I've seen in the past, between 70%-95% is a good estimate of how much gets absorbed into your system from the whole dose when you administer it rectally and you had a bowel movement before the dose. 95% would definitely at least be approaching the upper limit. I've seen 99% listed before, from a mod on this very forum, but I don't know if I can agree with that much. That means you'd need to use between 5%-30% as much more as if you went the IV route. But still, that's a huge gain, compare that to oral heroin at ~35% (65% more to use for equal effects), smoked heroin at 52%-55% (45-48% to get equal effects), or intranasal at 44%-61% (39-56% more to get equal effects). Really, the only things that can be higher than rectal admin are intramuscular and intravenous injections, with IM being ~85% and IV being 100%. So rectal administration can sometimes even be higher than an IM injection, and occasionally, depending on circumstantial variables, it can be only 5% less efficient than an actual IV shot.
You do get a rush, but it is somewhat less potent of a rush than an IV shot. Still, it is very powerful, with many people suggesting it is as, or more, powerful than an IM injection. What happens is that it takes longer to start, lasts a bit longer, and is less overwhelming, but all in all very worth it, and it you use a high enough dose it CAN rival IV admin.
Takes about 30mins. MAX to kick in, more likely to be 10-15 mins, though, again, circumstantial variables would change this. The biggest difference is that the rush isn't instantaneous, but washes over you a little bit after you've administered it.
Basically, to administer, you need to have had a bowel movement, then you dissolve your heroin or bupe in water (maybe with a small amount of alcohol to up the bioavailability even more), and then you put it up your rectum about 2-4 index finger middle knuckle lengths. It doesn't have to go in far, really just an inch or two. It's definitely not like being fingered or fucked in the ass. It's literally only in there for a second, and after you squirt your homemade suppository in, you take it out. At this point, you have to lie down on your side, for about 5 minutes, at most 10. This allows the blood vessels in your rectum to absorb the drug fully, straight into the bloodstream.
Why people would think that's gay, I don't understand. It's what the rectum is meant to do, absorb water, some nutrients/minerals, and other soluble substances. The only way to make it gay is if you yourself make it gay. If you just think of it as what it actually is, merely a way to take a drug, no different than smoking, shooting, snorting, or parachuting, then I fail to see why it should bother someone. The only reason I can think of is that you have some sort of deep-seated aversion/fear/complex that compels you to feel anxiety over something as innocuous as administering a drug. Where the drug goes has NOTHING to do with how it feels, at least, not beyond bioavailability. Using a rectal administration technique just means you're being smart, because you save a LOT of your money and drugs, while still getting a type of rush, and getting a great high after the rush. The best part is that you risk very little at all. No dangers near what their is for IM or IV injections.
Sure, I understand that others may have a different perspective on rectal administration of drugs. What I can't get my head around is why you think that doing something to yourself that is not in any way inherently sexual should get the label of "gay". Again, I mean no offence, but it just seems silly to me. I'm not gay, and have no desire to be fucked in the ass whatsoever. That said, an oral syringe is not a cock. Just like a lollipop or popsicle is not a cock. You don't call it gay when you put a popsicle/lollipop in your mouth, even though it's certainly a phallic looking object. Not unless you are putting it in your mouth in a sexual manner, then it is just a neutral action. It's not gay, it's not straight, it's just a thing you can do. Sure, if you fuck yourself in the ass with an oral syringe, yeah, you could make a case for that being gay. But why would you do that if you're not gay? lol, you just put it one to two inches into the rectum, squeeze out the liquid, and then boom, you're done. It takes less than half a minute, if that. How the f*** is that gay?
See, that's the thing, I'm NOT "convincing myself" that it's not homosexual to administer a drug rectally. It actually isn't, for all intents and purposes it is a neutral act; not sexual in the least. I don't mean to offend and please don't take this the wrong way, but since logically, biologically, and chemically, this route of administration makes sense and is not at all linked to any kind of inherent sexuality, it would be the person who chooses to see sexuality in it (thinking it's "gay") who is convincing themselves of something. Acts that don't give you sexual pleasure are not considered to be sexual acts in any way. The only reason to think of them as gay is if you are unreasonably afraid of "gayness"/"being gay"/"looking gay". I think I'd know if I was gay, don't you? And, yet, in the privacy of my own home, I can plug any drug I want. You just have preconceptions that make you unable to view it any other way, and that's on you, not me. I know it's not gay, but you have chosen to be convinced that it is (for whatever reason).
To put it another way, logically, I don't have to prove a negative, because that's not how logic works. You have to prove a positive. If I say that I have a dragon/unicorn in my garage, and you don't believe me, that's fine, because the burden of proof lies with me, because I made the positive statement "there is a dragon in my garage". You make the negative statement that "no, there is no dragon." You can't prove a negative, so the onus is on the person making a claim to provide its proof. So consider this difference in perspective on rectal administration: This time YOU are the one making a positive statement ("Rectal drug administration is "gay"), while I make the negative statement "No, rectal drug administration is neutral and without an intrinsic sexual nature").
Since I make the negative, I need not prove my statement here. You are the one who must prove that such an act is, by its very nature, "gay". Until you do prove that, you are the one who has convinced himself of something, def. not me. That's just basic logic, you have to prove your positive statement. Just feeling that something "is" doesn't truly make it so.
lol, I mean, dude, you shit, don't you? Your shit is several times bigger than a small oral syringe. An oral syringe is neither a dildo nor a cock. It is a tiny thing, it can be smaller than a pencil. It's just another ROA (route of administration). You literally barely feel it, and to get caught up in worrying that it's gay, when the pleasure comes from the drug, not the syringe, is just silly and illogical.
Yep, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But that doesn't mean everyone's opinion is right or logical. Some abide by the rules of logic and operate from a rational standpoint using scientific methods. People have every right to their own opinions, but having that right doesn't mean you have the right to your opinion being respected as necessarily correct. For that to be one's right, one'd have to prove whatever positive claim one'd made.
Why shouldn't I? It's not a "gay act", lol. I should know, being straight and having done it myself. Or the many people I've known in the past who do it to save money, drugs, and veins. If the person doing it doesn't think it's gay, based upon sound logic, than how can it be gay? Again, I'm making the negative statement here. I say it's not gay, not unless you want it to be, fantasize it to be, or imagine it to be. So unless you have proof that it is "gay", beyond the "eew, that's icky, and since I irrationally feel that it is a sexual act, it is!", then you can't say it's gay. Not logically. Your personal taboos don't count as proof, unfortunately.
I could just as easily claim that masturbation is "gay". "Oh, dude! You're touching a cock, a penis! Wow, that's gay, dude. How can that not be gay! Don't tell me that masturbating yourself isn't gay, you're touching a prick, even if it is your own, that's gay!" Or that breastfeeding is somehow paedophilia: "Wow, tits are for sexual purposes because they brings sexual pleasure to both males and females, and you're letting infants feed from them! Damn, that's paedophilia, because of course a body part that is involved in sexual acts of some kind in some situations can ONLY be defined from those acts! Since breasts are can be used sexually, then doing ANYTHING with them MUST be sexual! Who cares if it's not inherently sexual, other things done with breasts are sexual acts, so EVERYTHING you do with breasts is sexual!"
Or even better, it's more equivalent to a female giving herself a self breast exam. Again, breasts can be a part of sexuality for both men and women (in different ways). So, just like a rectum CAN be part of sexuality for both men (gay sex, or straight prostate massage by a girl) and women (anal sex by a man or a strap-on wearing female), the breasts can be used in sexual acts. But, just because you use your breasts in another fashion to accomplish a non-sexual goal (checking for breast lumps by feeling them all over), does not suddenly mean that doing that action is sexual by nature. A woman is not a lesbian because she feels her own boobs for health reasons, and a man is not gay just because he uses his rectum for a purpose that is not at all sexual, dosing a drug in one of the most effective routes available. Can't you see that?
HOW you use a body part is what makes it sexual. It's not sexual until it's giving you SEXUAL pleasure. Getting high FROM A DRUG is NOT sexual pleasure. Therefore, using any body part for the SOLE PURPOSE of GETTING HIGH, not SEXUALITY, can NEVER be "gay".
By all means, feel free to prove that it is, but please use logic and preferably available scientific evidence, don't just say that it is because you feel it is without any real describable explanation for why it is.
I don't take opiates anymore, except my suboxone. Even that I rarely want to plug. But, yeah, I've plugged before and I'll probably plug again. What's so hard to understand about getting at least TWICE as MUCH BANG for YOUR BUCK? Why shouldn't I save money and drug volume? Because other people mistakenly think it's "gay"/"immoral"/socially-unacceptable"? In terms of bioavailability, it's generally vastly superior to use rectal admin. as opposed to oral or intranasal, and can often be much better than inhaled/smoked, and even more efficient than IM injection, at times.
Why should that be gay, unless I get pleasure from it in a sexual way? Why should you be the one who decides whether someone else's actions are "gay"? You only know if your own actions are gay, you're the only one who "feels" the pleasure of your own acts. So, yeah, if you think it feels/sounds gay to use a superior method of drug administration, so be it. But, frankly, that says more about you than me.
"To get a pleasure from putting something in ur asshole..."
No. More accurately, it is to get pleasure from applying a drug solution to a mucous membrane, after which the drug alters brain chemistry. It is absolutely no different than the mouth's oral membranes, or nasal membranes, or intestinal membranes after the stomach. It's a way to get a drug into your blood, not a way to get pleasure in and of itself. The pleasure comes later, when the drug reaches your brain, and has nothing to do with the actual administration.
Well, I already posted it in reply to the guy above you, so I'll say it again (sorry, lol): Less than a pencil width. It can be at LEAST as small as the width of an IV syringe.
I think it tells a lot more about your preconceptions and perceptions than it does about the guy who plugs it so he can get better effects without once even THINKING that it's gay. I just don't get why you have to think in those terms. Again, it's not a cock, nor is it a dildo, and the pleasure doesn't come from it, it comes from a drug going into your veins and to your brain, just like any other ROA (like snorted or smoked).
Why? Why should you snort it and need twice or more as much when you can just plug it and get much better effects? You're the one choosing to make it gay. If you're secure in your sexuality and you know you are straight, then why the hell would you think just administering a drug is gay, regardless of which route is used? It's not gay unless you choose it to be so.
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SS ~ I won't drone on about the "gay" side of this but if you think about it, logically, it's you by yourself, performing an act on your own self. If you take care of business for yourself in other ways, wouldn't that be more gay than a mere act of implementing a substance into your system for whatever reason? Personally, I have no issues with men who like a prostrate interlude with the woman in their life (0r man for that matter) nor do I have an open opinion on the more than a few men that love anal sex with women. It's an entirely different thing to take a tiny syringe and be alone for a few moments for the sake of saving your veins than running off to find a bi-sexual/bi-curious or gay man and having him insert himself in there. ....I digress! (No judgments I promise, I know more than my fair share of homo-phobics about anything close to their "that's gay" area.)
As for your needle interests? That's a tough deal. I was so attached to the needle that there were times when I cold-turkeyed off my drug(s) of choice that I'd inject saline (from a medical provider) so as to not go totally Jones-insane. Because we were never without our respective drug(s) of choice, and I have a profession in which I work from home, I could use 5-10 times a day and often did. I, however, use itsy tiny needles and rarely is ever used the same exact spot nor did I ever inject pills that were not filtered to the point of OCDing it. I had a system which would get the gunk out of extended release morphine so it was much like medical grade liquid. It took about 24 hours from start to finish but one "dirty dope sick" ordeal for me was either the end of my little habit or it was going to be as safe as possible. Honestly, I kicked the heroin in about a week, but the needle? Some days I carry one around with me just to feel some twisted sense of comfort/normalcy. And how ignorant is that? Like when my ex would make me suffer without heroin after I left home, then call and ask if I wanted to get "well"? How the hell "well" am I if I'm shooting shit in my veins to not be sick? But....reality was what it was. You aren't going to lose enough substance to tell a difference if you filter carefully and thoroughly using the method most appropriate for your substance.
Personally, I had no idea what plugging was until I had tossed the H. Now that I'm on stuff I need to be on, but choose to abuse it from time to time, I liquify, suck into a 1CC and do it rectally. Not only is my dear friend Mr. 1CC there, no one is going to know my dirty little secret as they may if I were to inject. Once in a great while I still do IV. BUT only if it's so clean that I won't even get a red dot at site. But the ritual and attachment to the rig, for me, has been far more difficult than the withdrawal and living without the H. Those little fellows were/are on the way out for good for me because one's best friends really shouldn't be a rig, but if you can view plugging as I do ~ just a different form of fucking up my body/life without the god-awful ruining of my life's-blood-system, it is just as enjoyable/rushable as IV. (At least what I have for my weak moments when I miss Mr. IV. It's whatever you can re-train yourself to accept and endure.
As for your needle interests? That's a tough deal. I was so attached to the needle that there were times when I cold-turkeyed off my drug(s) of choice that I'd inject saline (from a medical provider) so as to not go totally Jones-insane. Because we were never without our respective drug(s) of choice, and I have a profession in which I work from home, I could use 5-10 times a day and often did. I, however, use itsy tiny needles and rarely is ever used the same exact spot nor did I ever inject pills that were not filtered to the point of OCDing it. I had a system which would get the gunk out of extended release morphine so it was much like medical grade liquid. It took about 24 hours from start to finish but one "dirty dope sick" ordeal for me was either the end of my little habit or it was going to be as safe as possible. Honestly, I kicked the heroin in about a week, but the needle? Some days I carry one around with me just to feel some twisted sense of comfort/normalcy. And how ignorant is that? Like when my ex would make me suffer without heroin after I left home, then call and ask if I wanted to get "well"? How the hell "well" am I if I'm shooting shit in my veins to not be sick? But....reality was what it was. You aren't going to lose enough substance to tell a difference if you filter carefully and thoroughly using the method most appropriate for your substance.
Personally, I had no idea what plugging was until I had tossed the H. Now that I'm on stuff I need to be on, but choose to abuse it from time to time, I liquify, suck into a 1CC and do it rectally. Not only is my dear friend Mr. 1CC there, no one is going to know my dirty little secret as they may if I were to inject. Once in a great while I still do IV. BUT only if it's so clean that I won't even get a red dot at site. But the ritual and attachment to the rig, for me, has been far more difficult than the withdrawal and living without the H. Those little fellows were/are on the way out for good for me because one's best friends really shouldn't be a rig, but if you can view plugging as I do ~ just a different form of fucking up my body/life without the god-awful ruining of my life's-blood-system, it is just as enjoyable/rushable as IV. (At least what I have for my weak moments when I miss Mr. IV. It's whatever you can re-train yourself to accept and endure.
sstalker
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Druidus:I see that i you got offended by my previous post and i am srry 4 that.I don't want that to become personal and argue about it.Although i said:,,no offence'' and ,,this is not about u'' u took it verry personal..Man u didn't had to write all that just to explain that u r not gay and even worse to make me look bad...Although in my country the gays are some kind of tabboo and verry discriminated i try to stay open minded but i must say that i have a bit of that mentality myself...I hate that we turned this post gay oriented but u went overkill man..I am very confident about my sexuality and there's nothing wrong with dissaproving ur method.It's a little bit unorthodox but it's ur business.Remember i said that applies to most cases...Not strictly to u..So again let's not make this a philosophical debate about gays and try to stick to the title.And afcoarse get informed better and help eachother.
P.S.I didn't red the whole text u wrote but from what i red i have laughed my ass off man :D Tnx 4 making my day :D I must say u r good with words just like me(good in turning the odds to ur favour) and i respect that.Only if i could express myself on english the way i can express myself in my language...However,don't make this personal,write something usefull to the subject if u like,and if u don't like don't write at all.I'm from the Balkans by the way
Cheers!
P.S.I didn't red the whole text u wrote but from what i red i have laughed my ass off man :D Tnx 4 making my day :D I must say u r good with words just like me(good in turning the odds to ur favour) and i respect that.Only if i could express myself on english the way i can express myself in my language...However,don't make this personal,write something usefull to the subject if u like,and if u don't like don't write at all.I'm from the Balkans by the way
Cheers!
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Oh,and 1 more thing i forgot to write about...Tell me if this is happening to u also..? Every morning i wake up with an unberable pain in the stomach and a huge need to shit :D I don't know how i didn't shate in my sleap so far..This started happening after i started shooting bupe.Never before!And it's every day the same...I speak with other friends who take the bupe tha same way like me and they say they never experienced such a thing...The feeling is something like when u drink that remedy for clearing ur stomach called ricinus.U can't stop the shit and if u r not close to a WC-toilet,god have mercy on u :D I think it's due to shooting bupe.Some kind of a widrawal simptom...And other people tell me they can't shit att all.(hard chair it's called i gess).Anyway tell me if this is happening to u
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Sstalker that happened to me, it's fucking horrible, especially the pain in the stomach, always wakes me up round 5-6am and I need to go to the toilet but nothing happens though. I never thought it was due to shooting bupe though, but maybe you're right
Flaga121
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Stalker, your ignorance is an insult to the entire human race.
I don't plug but accusing someone of homosexual tendencies because of a roa is just asinine. Aside from the obvious hemophobia you implicitly display in your posts.
Please continue to iv your pills and allowing natural selection to take is course.
I don't plug but accusing someone of homosexual tendencies because of a roa is just asinine. Aside from the obvious hemophobia you implicitly display in your posts.
Please continue to iv your pills and allowing natural selection to take is course.
sstalker
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Man i wrote a large text concerning u and ur opinion..Just deleted it cause u r not worth my explanation..And why do i need to explain myself to u by the way...Fuck u and ur way of using!If u don't have something usefull to write don't write at all.Don't turn this subject into a wrong direction and stop trolling.What do u think u r..?A shrink or something..?There are suitable forums for that subject,go and embaras urself there u idiot
Snakevillon
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fuck you a man to each there own why can't you guys jus leave it at that come on guys we are here to help eachother
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Come on guys, let's keep this civil...and personal attacks on members for their sexual orientation are completely unacceptable on BL, and will result in punitive action!
We're here to be helpful and supportive of each other. If you disagree with someone, do so in a mature manner that doesn't degenerate into personal attacks.
We're here to be helpful and supportive of each other. If you disagree with someone, do so in a mature manner that doesn't degenerate into personal attacks.
Snakevillon
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^exactly
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I totally agree.I didn't registered to this site so i can make enemies or to get a negative vibe from some1...Just asked for an opinion.U can also ask me whatever u r interested in concerning drugs.Ask for help,advice,support or whatever...As Snakevillon said,we're here to help eachother not to troll
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Alright let's get this on topic ... So I have been an opaite addict for 3 1/2 years.. About half a year on opana before reformulation followed by a year on dope.. Then for the next year I was basically clean and on bupe maintence by then I had started shooting it got infection from shooting that/adderal wih dirty needles lost my bupe script even tho I didn't relapse fuxkin sucked then I went to shorting low dose bupe to keep withdrawls awy anddo that to this day and when I cant find bupe on the street I jus go on a little dope binge.. So that's my story about my needle fixation