Ilove2nod
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I have been on subs and have taken all suboxone, subutex, and zubsolv every way possible on and off but mostly on, for the past 5 years or so and here is what I have to say about my experience with all the different ROAs for anyone interested.
I originally was scripted 8mg suboxone stop signs. I stuck with just taking them as prescribed at no more than 8mg a day, I did originally start at 16mg a day, but only took that much sub one maybe two times before realizing, also reading about and hearing from others that less was more with subs, so I just stuck with 8mg a day under the tongue for a few months. Then after doing tons of research into buprenorphine I figured out that suboxone was basically the same as just taking regular bupe, as the naloxone was rendered useless, since the bupe overpowered it so much and had the higher binding affinity to the opiate receptors than the tiny amount of naloxone in them, and it was just a big scare tactic to steer people away from abusing it. I also figured out that ironically taking it sublingually, offered the lowest BA besides swallowing it whole(which is next to nothing), with a BA of something like ~32%, meaning I was only getting roughly 32% of the pill that way sometimes a bit more or less. After all this research I became curious and I then tried sniffing it, in small doses of like anywhere from 0.5mg to 2mg, and the first time I did, I was blown away by how much different it made me feel! seriously, it was an actual feeling I began to like a lot, that I never got from taking it as directed, kicked in almost immediately instead of having to wait for it to dissolve under my tongue forever, and felt much more powerful. So that became the only ROA I would do subs, not only for the higher ~54% BA, but for the fact that it saved me a ton of sub, and I was able to stockpile them by using like 1/4 to 1/2 as much as I was originally!
This continued for about another year-year and a half, with a few dope vacations very occasionally when I had a lot of money to blow, then I tried something new. As much as I loved the feeling I got from railing subs, I wanted to see what all the fuss was about with plugging it. So I went ahead and got an insulin syringe from a friend of mine, pulled the needle off of it, and went for it and HOLY SHIT! Literally! lol. I got the most amazing feeling I had since doing a full agonist, felt a lot like oxy but a little different maybe almost a little like morphine too, about 2-5 mins after plugging it, I was laying on my bed, nodding out peacefully to some really chill 311 song, I believe it was "Eons" if I remember right, while feeling all warm, fuzzy, even a tad itchy. It almost felt like an entirely new opiate I had never experienced before. It truly was incredible! Like up there with doing my first shot of dope kind of incredible, believe it or not. So I stuck with plugging for the next year more or less and while it continued to be the best ROA I had found yet, it like most other drugs, became less and less powerful feeling each time, but still beat sublingual by a long shot, and well I was starting to really become curious about injecting sub IV as I had been injecting full agonists a while before getting on subs. So I got some new rigs and went for it! And again, wow, I felt an overwhelming sensation of happiness, was warm and fuzzy, nodding out, much like the first experience with plugging it, just a bit stronger. Kept doing it that way and never turned back...
Then I had to switch sub docs, which actually turned out to be in my favor as my old doc wouldn't prescribe subutex at all, but my new doc immediately switched me from the generic suboxone tabs I had been taking for so long, to my now beloved subutex, as it was so much cheaper and I had to pay out of pocket at the pharmacy since my insurance didn't cover bupe of any kind. Anyways, I kept plugging it, and it was still amazing like with the suboxone, actually a bit more than with the suboxone. I know there is supposed to be no difference in the feeling between the two but to me there is, even if it is slight, it just feels less dirty to me to iv, and has an overall smoother nicer feeling. So ever since being on subutex I haven't even once taken it sublingually, just slammed it 95% of the time, and the other 5 plugged it or railed it due to running out of fresh rigs to use. And I can honestly say, to this day after what has now been like 2 years on the dot of being on subutex, I still get the same feeling as I first did almost every time I slam it!!! It is the only full or partial agonist opioid that I haven't gained any tolerance to! I do anywhere from 6-8mg a day 3-4 times a day IV, in 1 to mostly 2mg shots. I am truly addicted to subs now, but I feel like its better even IV to do subs, than go out and get dope, especially with all the bad fentanyl laced shit out there these days! I really actually prefer subs, having an ample supply, legally at all times rather than the totally unpredictable dope game and all the bs along with it.
I was just in the mood to share my long time experience with buprenorphine and also see how many other people on here IV their bupe? If so what form of bupe is it suboxone, subutex, zubsolv, or what? How much do you do at a time, per day? and do you get a nice feeling, like I seem to almost everytime? I also would like to mention I always get a better, stronger feeling the longer I wait between shots and also when I hit a new vein I haven't touched before! Its weird but true!
I know some other people who do or have done bupe IV and either love it like me and get an actual feeling from it that way, and some who don't notice it being any different than sub'l, sniffing, etc. and just do it that way to save money, since you need a lot less bupe with IV having nearly a 100% BA. Just curious to see how my experience with IV bupe compares to everyone elses!
I originally was scripted 8mg suboxone stop signs. I stuck with just taking them as prescribed at no more than 8mg a day, I did originally start at 16mg a day, but only took that much sub one maybe two times before realizing, also reading about and hearing from others that less was more with subs, so I just stuck with 8mg a day under the tongue for a few months. Then after doing tons of research into buprenorphine I figured out that suboxone was basically the same as just taking regular bupe, as the naloxone was rendered useless, since the bupe overpowered it so much and had the higher binding affinity to the opiate receptors than the tiny amount of naloxone in them, and it was just a big scare tactic to steer people away from abusing it. I also figured out that ironically taking it sublingually, offered the lowest BA besides swallowing it whole(which is next to nothing), with a BA of something like ~32%, meaning I was only getting roughly 32% of the pill that way sometimes a bit more or less. After all this research I became curious and I then tried sniffing it, in small doses of like anywhere from 0.5mg to 2mg, and the first time I did, I was blown away by how much different it made me feel! seriously, it was an actual feeling I began to like a lot, that I never got from taking it as directed, kicked in almost immediately instead of having to wait for it to dissolve under my tongue forever, and felt much more powerful. So that became the only ROA I would do subs, not only for the higher ~54% BA, but for the fact that it saved me a ton of sub, and I was able to stockpile them by using like 1/4 to 1/2 as much as I was originally!
This continued for about another year-year and a half, with a few dope vacations very occasionally when I had a lot of money to blow, then I tried something new. As much as I loved the feeling I got from railing subs, I wanted to see what all the fuss was about with plugging it. So I went ahead and got an insulin syringe from a friend of mine, pulled the needle off of it, and went for it and HOLY SHIT! Literally! lol. I got the most amazing feeling I had since doing a full agonist, felt a lot like oxy but a little different maybe almost a little like morphine too, about 2-5 mins after plugging it, I was laying on my bed, nodding out peacefully to some really chill 311 song, I believe it was "Eons" if I remember right, while feeling all warm, fuzzy, even a tad itchy. It almost felt like an entirely new opiate I had never experienced before. It truly was incredible! Like up there with doing my first shot of dope kind of incredible, believe it or not. So I stuck with plugging for the next year more or less and while it continued to be the best ROA I had found yet, it like most other drugs, became less and less powerful feeling each time, but still beat sublingual by a long shot, and well I was starting to really become curious about injecting sub IV as I had been injecting full agonists a while before getting on subs. So I got some new rigs and went for it! And again, wow, I felt an overwhelming sensation of happiness, was warm and fuzzy, nodding out, much like the first experience with plugging it, just a bit stronger. Kept doing it that way and never turned back...
Then I had to switch sub docs, which actually turned out to be in my favor as my old doc wouldn't prescribe subutex at all, but my new doc immediately switched me from the generic suboxone tabs I had been taking for so long, to my now beloved subutex, as it was so much cheaper and I had to pay out of pocket at the pharmacy since my insurance didn't cover bupe of any kind. Anyways, I kept plugging it, and it was still amazing like with the suboxone, actually a bit more than with the suboxone. I know there is supposed to be no difference in the feeling between the two but to me there is, even if it is slight, it just feels less dirty to me to iv, and has an overall smoother nicer feeling. So ever since being on subutex I haven't even once taken it sublingually, just slammed it 95% of the time, and the other 5 plugged it or railed it due to running out of fresh rigs to use. And I can honestly say, to this day after what has now been like 2 years on the dot of being on subutex, I still get the same feeling as I first did almost every time I slam it!!! It is the only full or partial agonist opioid that I haven't gained any tolerance to! I do anywhere from 6-8mg a day 3-4 times a day IV, in 1 to mostly 2mg shots. I am truly addicted to subs now, but I feel like its better even IV to do subs, than go out and get dope, especially with all the bad fentanyl laced shit out there these days! I really actually prefer subs, having an ample supply, legally at all times rather than the totally unpredictable dope game and all the bs along with it.
I was just in the mood to share my long time experience with buprenorphine and also see how many other people on here IV their bupe? If so what form of bupe is it suboxone, subutex, zubsolv, or what? How much do you do at a time, per day? and do you get a nice feeling, like I seem to almost everytime? I also would like to mention I always get a better, stronger feeling the longer I wait between shots and also when I hit a new vein I haven't touched before! Its weird but true!
I know some other people who do or have done bupe IV and either love it like me and get an actual feeling from it that way, and some who don't notice it being any different than sub'l, sniffing, etc. and just do it that way to save money, since you need a lot less bupe with IV having nearly a 100% BA. Just curious to see how my experience with IV bupe compares to everyone elses!
