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Obviously IV is preferable from a recreational standpoint because of better bioavailability / faster onset but if for whatever reason one does not want to usd IV, is there any reason to caution against IM heroin use
Good call moving to smoking it on foil as opposed to IM use for the sole reasons the folk above have statedLuckily, where I live fentanyl in heroin is exceedingly rare. Upon consideration there appears to be no advantage to IM over say, smoking it on foil or in a pipe from a corner shop so I will probably just do that. Thank you for your response.
hello and welcome to bluelight.On that note, if I were to smoke it in a pipe rather than on foil what type of pipe is best? I assume a regular crack pipe or a weed pipe would do the job and it ultimately matters little but I'm still curious.
I second that. 'Smoking' is technically the wrong word for chasing, just like you don't really smoke opium, you vaporize it.I don't think a weed pipe would be anywhere near ideal as it would just burn the heroin up surely & waste it. The reason for chasing it on foil is cos it's the vapour ya wanna be inhaling. Why not just stick to the tried & tested method of chasing it on foil?
You can use a pipe with kitchen brilo as the filter but it does waste a lot of itMy prior experience smoking it save for the first one (where I didn't get much of an effect, likely due to poor chasing technique?) have almost all been using a crack pipe save for times I have sniffed it which I also found effective but the full onset (1-2hrs) and total duration (was still feeling it ~24hrs later, though about 8 of them i was asleep) put me off, by that point I was wishing for it to be over.
I would like to get as strong a hit from a single inhalation as possible, my concern with foil being my lack of skill whereas a pipe seems very straightforward in comparison.
Don't look at it like one route of adminstration is wrong and one is right per se. Muscles are going to diffuse a shot into the bloodstream at a slower rate than by going straight into the vein. This, in turn gives the shot/solution more time to, for lack of a better word, fester in one area, making a complication like infection more likely just by definition, regardless of how careful you are.
If a solution is medically sterile, there is no problem. It's just a slower onset, less of a rush, etc. I can tell you that in my last couple of years of injecting, I was almost always going IM and had one complication (abscess in my bicep) compared to ten years of IV with none. That should give you a basic statistical idea of the difference. I was always careful, rotated sites/muscles and I still think it was because I became careless with hygiene.
I use to IM my heroin when I couldn’t get a vein and it caused a ton of infections in my arms. If you can stay away from the needle then my advice is to smoke or snort it.Obviously IV is preferable from a recreational standpoint because of better bioavailability / faster onset but if for whatever reason one does not want to usd IV, is there any reason to caution against IM heroin use
I totally spaced on a very important point here. I feel like a total dick for not mentioning this.
There appears to be a pretty well-defined risk in injecting Heroin in the form of unrefined Tar as opposed to a fully dry powder like we have west of the Mississippi. I think another important point to make here is that, if you've used up your veins, your muscles will in turn get used up to. Whatever happened to your veins, whether its your fault or that of the universe, will likely happen to your muscles. They will harden and not allow for further injections.
For this reason, while you can inject in a muscle in a pinch, you should probably be aware that you're entering into the autumn/winter of your injecting career in which decisions are eventually to be made regarding how to move forward. There are many other routes of administration open to you with competitive bioavailabilities.