Have you read this entire thread? Or the posts where the OP CJ wrote about how he's going to use heroin and fent instead of taking methadone or going to rehab?
Yeah. I also happened to read through the rest of the thread, to the subsequent posts where cj indicated that he had become interested and motivated to use kratom (and if that doesn't work buprenorphine) as opposed to a more dangerous opioid like heroin or fent:
If I go 10mg a week then 5mg a week after that I can be at 75mg by then if all goes the way I want it with my body. I'm gonna try and get some kratom in the coming weeks to flatten out any rough spots as I'm gonna have to go faster then I want too more than likely
I guess [hightlight]my plan as it stands today is taper as low as possible then jump to kratom. If that doesn't keep the cravings away and I relapse due to physical discimport then I'll get on sub and taper way down with it.[/highlight]
[...] Because at the end of the day I know I'll die if I get back on heroin and methadone is the only thung that has worked for me.
My friend sells fent and u 4770 so no its not heroin but I dont really care on some level an opiate is an opiate. But I plan to stay away from that if I can. My new plan is too taper down low as possible them jump to Kratom or another weak short acting opiate if I can find enough of one.
[...] I feel motivated but like someone else said I don't want to jump and end up strung out on "heroin" again. I know this is going to be a brutal drawn out process but I am motivated right now.
You did recommend that he not go to rehab and that he should use heroin and fent in post #29:
Yes, I did recommend he taper instead of going to rehab right now. Rehabs would demand he detox from the methadone, which without a proper taper will be difficult and uncomfortable (and there are other issues with just jumping into abstinence right now in cj's case). Totally unnecessarily so. There is no ticking time bomb here.
Did you notice where I have consistently suggested that rehab/detox would be such a bad idea when he's finished as much of a taper as is possible? So I haven't even been saying that the issue is whether or not he should go to rehab/detox. I've actually been saying the issue is
when going to rehab/detox would be most appropriate.
The fact of the matter is, right now it's not very advisable (I mean, intentionally trying to use heroin to get off methadone or something would certainly be a far more problematic idea that getting immediate inpatient treatment, but that is not at all the current situation).
And no, nowhere have I stated he should start using heroin or fent. Not in the post you're quoting, not anywhere else in this thread. Please, show me where I tell him to use heroin and fent...
CJ is an actual person who is a polydrug addict and he is making the extremely foolish decision to not get help for his addictions and to use heroin and fent instead of checking into a rehab.
You seem to forget that cj is currently getting help, he is still part of a program where he works with a counselor/case manager, doctor and nurses. He is being held accountable by regular drug testing. He is getting monitored help organizing and maintaining his taper off the medication.
This might not be the ideal situation regarding the type of treatment they provide, you might not think it ideal, but cj has regularly expresses how it has been the right treatment for him, that it has saved his life.
This is particularly why it is so unfortunate the situation his clinic's/state's backwards policies has put him into.
If the OP continues to use drugs or make the fatal and foolish decision to use heroin and fent instead of going to rehab, will either die, wind up in prison, or in a mental hospital.
Thanks for reminding us. You don't seem to understand that that kind of confrontational shaming technique doesn't work very well. And that this is a harm reduction forum, or what the rainbow of harm reduction entails? Did you know that abstinence from harmful behavior is a core part of harm reduction?
I hope his parents and relatives Baker act or have him committted to a mental hospital since he's a danger to himself, and he's shown that he cannot get off drugs himself.
Yes. And while we're at it, we should also make sure we give him electroshock therapy for his mental illness. Or better yet, we could lobotomize him a little bit - he'd become so much more manageable then!
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