iksaxophone
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Have you ever been distinctly broken out of an ideology or some other incorrect notion during/after an entheogenic experience?
BUT I think it is clear that this refusal to examine is itself an ideology. Which makes me hopeful that in the right situation and the right dose these...spiritual hijackers...might have a revelation that it is actually necessary to think and criticize (especially one?s own self).
Have you ever been distinctly broken out of an ideology or some other incorrect notion during/after an entheogenic experience?
I detect a JBP listener! And I get what you?re saying, but I would argue that it?s not necessary to have an ideology. It?s possible (though difficult) to to recognize that there is no one answer to everything.Ideology is an important part of our identity. I think when you are on psychedelics you can get other perspectives on ideas but probably a single experience cannot shatter an ideologic system. Probably because you can only check ideas from other ideas, the non biased perspective is kind of an utopia, we are all condicionated at least by past experiences and our reduced and personal knowledge about reality. Don't take that as some form of full relativism, as some ideologies are much more biased than others, just a pinch of it.The process of breaking with and ideology is long and emotionaly painful, I think because breaking with an ideology means breaking with your own identity and in some way the groups you form part of. Not as easy as changing some ideas, you are changing perception: of the world, of yourself, of others and other's perception on you.
In any case psyquedelics can offer you a mystical experience which can awake a spiritual view of reality which is not common in our times. That surely can have lasting effects in your perception of things in that sense. If that is derisable or not, will probably depend on your quality of life under each ideology. It is a very complicated subject. One thing I ask myself a lot is: Am I having an idea or an idea is having me? Jung used to say that people don't have ideas, ideas have people.
A good method to detect how biased an ideologic system is, would be to see how much predictability have the opinions of someone. Because it means they are not really thinking, they are just borrowing from a supposed great ideologic system standarised the right answer. Some kind of unconscious hypocrisy.
If we take my premise before: Ideologic systems are affected by past experiences and our personal and unique knowledge of reality, there should be as many ideologic systems as people on the planet.
Have you ever been distinctly broken out of an ideology or some other incorrect notion during/after an entheogenic experience?