blues runner
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Hi everyone.
(Mods, I wasn't sure where to post this thread, so apologies if this isn't the forum...please move it where it belongs, thanks.)
I'm going to try Ibogaine treatment for opioid/opiate addiction. I'm not going to do it myself. I moved to the EU 2 years ago and I've done research on which clinics seem the most reputable in the continent. As I'm sure most everyone knows, it's not actively approved/legal in many developed nations. In the EU, all my research indicates that Portugal is the country of choice for my purpose. I'll be going to a clinic, haven't scheduled a date yet but I'd like it to be within a week or two.
I'll include some pertinent information that will give anyone who might have info of any kind on this subject, hopefully but not necessarily by personal experience, that might help me.
I'm a 48 year old male, started doing heroin when I lived in Thailand 25 years ago. Since then I've had years on opioids and years off them. When I was off them I was doing something else (usually crystal methamphetamine) - but there's no meth in Belgium where I currently live, just crappy street "speed paste," which isn't even 5% the potency of what I had every day in LA where I lived for 9 years. Why the hell they don't have crystal here blows my mind; Eastern Europe is flooded with it, but I won't say any more about that. When I moved here I hadn't used any opioids/opiates for 6 years. But a couple months after I arrived here I developed sciatica, and while my legal residence status was in the process of getting approved, surgery was out of the question as I would've had to pay for it out of pocket. The pain was fucking SEVERE; from the small of my back, running all the way down my left leg to my foot, it felt as if I had molten lead coursing through the center of my leg. In the beginning it would flare up erratically and sometimes it was days with no pain, then flare-up again. I tried every non-invasive treatment I could afford and nothing made a dent. Within 6 months I was in pain every day, and my doctor started prescribing analgesics. I didn't mention my history as I was in too much pain to care about taking the risk that they could take over my life again. I started with Oxycodone, but couldn't get a script of IR any higher than 10 mg per pill, and I needed at least 40 mg to manage the pain. Morphine was useless. We all know orally its bioavailability is shit, maybe 20% after first pass metabolism. He then prescribed me Hydromorphone (useless orally for me as well so that means IV), but soon thereafter I started Methadone again, worked up to 140 mg within a month and stayed on it for half a year or so until my residence and citizenship status was finally finished, which meant I could get the surgery for free basically. I did, and it worked perfectly; no more pain, no complications.
However...I was once again dependent on opioids. I've been on both Methadone and Buprenorphine maintenance for a couple years at a time over the last 20 years, but I hate being on maintenance. So I jumped off cold, 140 mg dose a day, and tried to ease the first 2 weeks' misery with Xanax, Dextroamphetamine (which I'm prescribed for ADD, 60 mg a day for years now), weed, etc. I lost patience with that approach. Too much hassle, too little benefit. So, I went back to my regular doc and asked for Hydromorphone again (it's called Palladone here) and I asked him to prescribe the highest dose he could. IR was only 2.6 mg, so that would have been useless, so I instead started getting 8mg ER capsules, which I would break down, prep and IV. Fast forward to today, I've been on the local Dilaudid for about half a year, and I shoot roughly 20 some mg 4 times a day. Turns out it's a good thing I switched to a short acting opioid for the Ibogaine treatment which it turns out is better/more easily treated than the longer acting opioids.
I'd just like to know if anyone has any info on this approach, its success rate, etc. I've heard and read promising stuff over the years, and I'm not concerned with warnings about "toxicity" and such. Anything at all would be appreciated. My tolerance is once again sky high (24 mg of IV Hydromorphone gets me feeling a little better than "right" so I'm sure that's gonna factor into how the Ibogaine treatment will be administered (longer time with the "trip" and possible subsequent doses?). Will I have to stop the Dex several days before?
Thanks in advance for anything y'all might be able to tell me that the rest of the web can't. I am not going back on maintenance, so I'm really hopeful as this is pretty much a final option.
Muchas Gracias!
(Mods, I wasn't sure where to post this thread, so apologies if this isn't the forum...please move it where it belongs, thanks.)
I'm going to try Ibogaine treatment for opioid/opiate addiction. I'm not going to do it myself. I moved to the EU 2 years ago and I've done research on which clinics seem the most reputable in the continent. As I'm sure most everyone knows, it's not actively approved/legal in many developed nations. In the EU, all my research indicates that Portugal is the country of choice for my purpose. I'll be going to a clinic, haven't scheduled a date yet but I'd like it to be within a week or two.
I'll include some pertinent information that will give anyone who might have info of any kind on this subject, hopefully but not necessarily by personal experience, that might help me.
I'm a 48 year old male, started doing heroin when I lived in Thailand 25 years ago. Since then I've had years on opioids and years off them. When I was off them I was doing something else (usually crystal methamphetamine) - but there's no meth in Belgium where I currently live, just crappy street "speed paste," which isn't even 5% the potency of what I had every day in LA where I lived for 9 years. Why the hell they don't have crystal here blows my mind; Eastern Europe is flooded with it, but I won't say any more about that. When I moved here I hadn't used any opioids/opiates for 6 years. But a couple months after I arrived here I developed sciatica, and while my legal residence status was in the process of getting approved, surgery was out of the question as I would've had to pay for it out of pocket. The pain was fucking SEVERE; from the small of my back, running all the way down my left leg to my foot, it felt as if I had molten lead coursing through the center of my leg. In the beginning it would flare up erratically and sometimes it was days with no pain, then flare-up again. I tried every non-invasive treatment I could afford and nothing made a dent. Within 6 months I was in pain every day, and my doctor started prescribing analgesics. I didn't mention my history as I was in too much pain to care about taking the risk that they could take over my life again. I started with Oxycodone, but couldn't get a script of IR any higher than 10 mg per pill, and I needed at least 40 mg to manage the pain. Morphine was useless. We all know orally its bioavailability is shit, maybe 20% after first pass metabolism. He then prescribed me Hydromorphone (useless orally for me as well so that means IV), but soon thereafter I started Methadone again, worked up to 140 mg within a month and stayed on it for half a year or so until my residence and citizenship status was finally finished, which meant I could get the surgery for free basically. I did, and it worked perfectly; no more pain, no complications.
However...I was once again dependent on opioids. I've been on both Methadone and Buprenorphine maintenance for a couple years at a time over the last 20 years, but I hate being on maintenance. So I jumped off cold, 140 mg dose a day, and tried to ease the first 2 weeks' misery with Xanax, Dextroamphetamine (which I'm prescribed for ADD, 60 mg a day for years now), weed, etc. I lost patience with that approach. Too much hassle, too little benefit. So, I went back to my regular doc and asked for Hydromorphone again (it's called Palladone here) and I asked him to prescribe the highest dose he could. IR was only 2.6 mg, so that would have been useless, so I instead started getting 8mg ER capsules, which I would break down, prep and IV. Fast forward to today, I've been on the local Dilaudid for about half a year, and I shoot roughly 20 some mg 4 times a day. Turns out it's a good thing I switched to a short acting opioid for the Ibogaine treatment which it turns out is better/more easily treated than the longer acting opioids.
I'd just like to know if anyone has any info on this approach, its success rate, etc. I've heard and read promising stuff over the years, and I'm not concerned with warnings about "toxicity" and such. Anything at all would be appreciated. My tolerance is once again sky high (24 mg of IV Hydromorphone gets me feeling a little better than "right" so I'm sure that's gonna factor into how the Ibogaine treatment will be administered (longer time with the "trip" and possible subsequent doses?). Will I have to stop the Dex several days before?
Thanks in advance for anything y'all might be able to tell me that the rest of the web can't. I am not going back on maintenance, so I'm really hopeful as this is pretty much a final option.
Muchas Gracias!
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