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Meetups I love real mephedrone, eapecially with oldschool BL and EADD OG WarmRushes

Man I really wish I could get good mephedrone. The real deal is the best drug hands down for euphoria. Fuck I wouldn’t have the coke addiction I have now if I had access (and I’m paying £130 a g for admittedly top quality out here).

Doubt these ‘sources’ you lads n lasses are getting it from will ship to Vietnam though (brexit and the general dreariness of old Lancashire made me move sticks) 🙁. Let me know if I’m wrong though, and enjoy the rushes. A big bomb followed by a good sized line when I started feeling the bomb would have me in pure heaven, would kill for one more go at it
 
Tranced said:
What was that? Hey btw man
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They were caps sent over from Israel, though after a year or so plenty of resellers in the UK appeared. When they were eventually tested they were found to contain 4MMC and 2FA among others.


This was all from around 2006. Then meph got real big probably 2008ish.

Israel then banned those two substances and so a new range came out around 2010 or so that was rubbish. There is still one good Bluelight thread around discussing it back then:

Neo-doves Part II

i'd blame Dozile over the spirit. Anything, even caffeine, can affect dozile. If it doesnt knock you out you're pretty much going to have sleep paralysis and weird ass panicky things happen to you.. I hate the drug personally personally I find it a life saver
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benson7 said:
They were caps sent over from Israel, though after a year or so plenty of resellers in the UK appeared. When they were eventually tested they were found to contain 4MMC and 2FA among others.


This was all from around 2006. Then meph got real big probably 2008ish.

Israel then banned those two substances and so a new range came out around 2010 or so that was rubbish. There is still one good Bluelight thread around discussing it back then:

Neo-doves Part II

i'd blame Dozile over the spirit. Anything, even caffeine, can affect dozile. If it doesnt knock you out you're pretty much going to have sleep paralysis and weird ass panicky things happen to you.. I hate the drug personally personally I find it a life saver
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I had no idea about he Israeli thing, I genuinely thought it originated pretty much on here and was brand new.

And 2-fa was early too. First tried it when it popped up on americanresearchsupplies in Spain (LE took it down years back, before anyone has a go, probably have the name wrong too); and that was back in 2011, and I thought it was brand new. Had a couple of gs each of 2-fa, and 4-fa, which was heavier. Spent about 12 hours mixing on my deck and bonded with my now best mate. =D

I heard a rumor twice recently that MDMA comes from Israel. I have never, ever believed it comes from Holland. Way to obvious and customs is way too tight. Israel sounds about right to me. It's definitely somewhere linked to Europe, and I reckon the people who look into this stuff know who they are, and get a decent chunk. Plus obviously they have a massive psy scene in Israel with a lot of MDMA and acid. Makes me think wonder how it gets in. Gaza tunnels probably, if you ask! =D

(Edit: just thinking, not many ways into Israel from Europe, right? How do they get all their acid and MDMA in? Can only be the med. Just that little strip of land a few times the size of gaza to the East-ish. Surely well defended. And don't they have a huge port or canal or something?

And hey, I'm not complaining, that's the reason I often love Israelies - total wreckheads =D - but it explains the bunk Holland rumor, if true. either way, not holland.
 
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Tranced said:
I had no idea about he Israeli thing, I genuinely thought it originated pretty much on here and was brand new.

And 2-fa was early too. First tried it when it popped up on americanresearchsupplies in Spain (LE took it down years back, before anyone has a go, probably have the name wrong too); and that was back in 2011, and I thought it was brand new. Had a couple of gs each of 2-fa, and 4-fa, which was heavier. Spent about 12 hours mixing on my deck and bonded with my now best mate. =D

I heard a rumor twice recently that MDMA comes from Israel. I have never, ever believed it comes from Holland. Way to obvious and customs is way too tight. Israel sounds about right to me. It's definitely somewhere linked to Europe, and I reckon the people who look into this stuff know who they are, and get a decent chunk. Plus obviously they have a massive psy scene in Israel with a lot of MDMA and acid. Makes me think wonder how it gets in. Gaza tunnels probably, if you ask! =D

(Edit: just thinking, not many ways into Israel from Europe, right? How do they get all their acid and MDMA in? Can only be the med. Just that little strip of land a few times the size of gaza to the East-ish. Surely well defended. And don't they have a huge port or canal or something?

And hey, I'm not complaining, that's the reason I often love Israelies - total wreckheads =D - but it explains the bunk Holland rumor, if true. either way, not holland.
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The chemist who first synthesized 4-mmc was Israeli i think.

I never liked 2-FA or 4-FA. For all everyone here claimed mephedrone to be super toxic (which i'm sure it probably is), 4-FA felt far worse to me. Only 1 or 2 doses and just felt so shitty after it wasn't for me. In the early days of mephedrone there was no comedown. Laterly with big binges i suffered upto 3 weeks feeling like shit after.

MDMA is mainly manufactured in Holland, Belgium, Germany. There is tonnes of evidence to support this. Documentaries even plus multiple big labs have been busted in all those countries. Any source for big busts or proof of MDMA being trafficked from Israel? Wouldn't really make any sense for the European market as it would have further to travel to Northern Europe, where the largest concentration of consumers with money is. I would imagine if Israel produces MDMA it is probably consumed domestically instead.

The bunk all coming from Holland is exactly that, a rumor. I'm sure there is good and bad batches of it being produced there the same with everywhere else.
 
elgoucho9 said:
The chemist who first synthesized 4-mmc was Israeli i think.

I never liked 2-FA or 4-FA. For all everyone here claimed mephedrone to be super toxic (which i'm sure it probably is), 4-FA felt far worse to me. Only 1 or 2 doses and just felt so shitty after it wasn't for me. In the early days of mephedrone there was no comedown. Laterly with big binges i suffered upto 3 weeks feeling like shit after.

MDMA is mainly manufactured in Holland, Belgium, Germany. There is tonnes of evidence to support this. Documentaries even plus multiple big labs have been busted in all those countries. Any source for big busts or proof of MDMA being trafficked from Israel? Wouldn't really make any sense for the European market as it would have further to travel to Northern Europe, where the largest concentration of consumers with money is. I would imagine if Israel produces MDMA it is probably consumed domestically instead.

The bunk all coming from Holland is exactly that, a rumor. I'm sure there is good and bad batches of it being produced there the same with everywhere else.
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To me you're just presenting evidence I'm right. =D

No big busts, with all those raves in the desert.

Just a rumor I heard on some podcasts though, to anybody reading this, if you get what I mean! 🙈😅
 
Those Neorganics blends were far more toxic than meph alone, I had some horrendous comedowns on those. I can smash meph and be relatively OK.
 
There is some "rock mephedrone" about which appears to be getting good reviews. Don't know if anyone has tried it?
 
It seems like it's back by popular demand! Gonna have one more bash me like! The cardiotoxicity thing scares me little, but I used to smoke tons of crack, so it seems a little stupid to be vastly more scared of meph. Remember @fastandbulbous saying he'd never touch and it made me shudder a little.
 
axe battler said:
It seems like it's back by popular demand! Gonna have one more bash me like! The cardiotoxicity thing scares me little, but I used to smoke tons of crack, so it seems a little stupid to be vastly more scared of meph. Remember @fastandbulbous saying he'd never touch and it made me shudder a little.
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I did try it once and was very much underwhelmed by its effects (then again, I am no fan of cocaine either)
 
fastandbulbous said:
I did try it once and was very much underwhelmed by its effects (then again, I am no fan of cocaine either)
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But meph (certainly pre-ban) used to be like coke that actually lived up to the hype. Keep thinking I might order a gram for old time's sake, then realise I don't really have the time and space to do it and recover from its mental toll...
 
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But meph (certainly pre-ban) used to be like coke that actually lived up to the hype. Keep thinking I might order a gram for old time's sake, then realise I don't really have the time and space to do it and recover from its mental toll...
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It was pre ban stuff that I tried.
 
Seems to be loads of legit labtested 4-MMC again now doing the rounds for roughly £20 a g or £250 an oz. Haven't done any since before xmas but has the old smell and mates eyes were wiggling, chatting shit, loved up etc.
 
I used to love that shit too back in the day. 3 day benders every weekend for £20

Just add Bellabrusco and one or 2 of those 3in1 Amber Leaf 12.5g deals.
 
Mad how many people seem to be back doing this local now. Saw mate tauting labtested stuff at 20s a g or 10er on small bulk (1oz), madness considering it was going at 500 an oz or 40 a gram one point after the ban. Was all cut to bits too then. Some chemists obviouly been synthing a load of it as it seems like all the coke/ket/mdma dealers all stocking legit 4-mmc again here now.
 
So assuming meph now does feel like pre-ban all of a sudden, what's changed... how is this explained? AFAIK it's not meant to be difficult to manufacture?

Sadly, not sure my subjective experience will ever be the same as at the beginning, thanks to anxiety I now get on stimulants (which all started with meph). Would definitely try again, given a decent window of opportunity, though it would be under a tonne of booze...
 
Tranced said:
I had no idea about he Israeli thing, I genuinely thought it originated pretty much on here and was brand new.

And 2-fa was early too. First tried it when it popped up on americanresearchsupplies in Spain (LE took it down years back, before anyone has a go, probably have the name wrong too); and that was back in 2011, and I thought it was brand new. Had a couple of gs each of 2-fa, and 4-fa, which was heavier. Spent about 12 hours mixing on my deck and bonded with my now best mate. =D

I heard a rumor twice recently that MDMA comes from Israel. I have never, ever believed it comes from Holland. Way to obvious and customs is way too tight. Israel sounds about right to me. It's definitely somewhere linked to Europe, and I reckon the people who look into this stuff know who they are, and get a decent chunk. Plus obviously they have a massive psy scene in Israel with a lot of MDMA and acid. Makes me think wonder how it gets in. Gaza tunnels probably, if you ask! =D

(Edit: just thinking, not many ways into Israel from Europe, right? How do they get all their acid and MDMA in? Can only be the med. Just that little strip of land a few times the size of gaza to the East-ish. Surely well defended. And don't they have a huge port or canal or something?

And hey, I'm not complaining, that's the reason I often love Israelies - total wreckheads =D - but it explains the bunk Holland rumor, if true. either way, not holland.
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Israeli here. Long time lurker. Came to find out why a terrible MDMA batch was terrible , ended up researching on mephedrone because I recently acquired some.

Figured I'll fill you people in on the drug scene here.

Our MDMA is mostly from abroad. Majority sold is "champagne MDMA" , or "MDMA clear" right now.we also had "dutch mdma"; recently purchased the first variety and some from a new dealer for a cheaper price. Christ,now I know why. Before that, I had a batch from a dealer that disappeared he got from "a chemist friend that made it in his lab in uni". Was pure magic. Like it was just out of this world relief drug. Instantly became a better me. Comedown was sexual as fuck.
Pills are mostly europe-sourced. I didn't try them but, a lot hit the "250-300mg" levels, and that suggests something vis off here.
Ketamine is ubiquitous. They label it "german/indian/netherland ketamine, etc. i have no idea what the difference is. I use it recreationally but rarely.

Our acid is brought either mostly in bottles of varying concentrations and sold either as these bottles or dripped on blots and sold as such(I searched all the blots I bought in databases and got ziltch, so my hypothesis is they drip on blots and sell to the consumer.). I can't attest to its quality, I'm a junior in acid. It was tons of fun experiences though and hoffman tested

We got 2cb hcl and hbr,but it's not commonly bought because israelis are notorious for their idea of dosages as "eyeball it or put it on a cannabis scale I bought at 5$". It's one of my favorite. We got pills too.

You can get mescaline HCl but it's expensive. Shrooms and dmt/changa, and that's it. No exotics unfortunately.

An Israeli wasn't the first to synthesize mephedrone per se, he had the audacity to have it manufactured en masse in china, I believe, and sell it in capsules as "hagigat" , the name means party-gat (khat). Recently had s movie done about his life here, in hebrew though.
My recently purchased mephedrone came powdery white. Fluffy. Haven't tested it yet.

Everyone here are on 3MMC, by the way..bumps galore, usually ketamine will also be around. they faded the 4MMC , for some reason; 3MMC users are like cokeheads...
I gave what is used a shot, taking a bump or two. Nearly instant talkativeness. But it wasn't particularly enjoyable like MDMA, or shrooms... And when it fades, it pulls craves. I remember trying it a second time and noting : " 3MMC gave me a desire to repeat it after an hour and a half; so, I should avoid taking it again because that feels habit forming". Have a friend that describes it as "cheap cocaine, but without the inflated self worth".

Cheers
 
I had some meph last week, sold as 4MMC but was definitely 3MMC. Oral was no good but it was very decent snorted, the gram lasted about 3 hours.
 
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