Stimulants How does iso (IsopropylBenzylamine) behave in a glass pipe?

[goodjunkie]

So. Iso cut meth is much trickier than msm. How do you recognise it? And Is it common in Australia.

 

[tung]

It turns brown quickly and runs from the heat. You'll also blow way bigger clouds than you should for the size of hit you take. Takes forever to burn out the bubble if you're attempting to clean it by torching it.

 

[✿Dai₷y✿]

Its long skinny needle like crystals that allegedly burn hotter (could be wrong though), big clouds but do nothing.

You'll find out when you don't get high.

Dunno how to clean it out except maybe water separation on a plate, the good stuff goes white and around edge of plate, shitty shit stays pretty and in middle of plate, acetone wash isn't worth it.

 

[TheAddicted]

So. Iso cut meth is much trickier than msm. How do you recognise it? And Is it common in Australia.

You’ll hear it sizzle and also the shards will be very soft to be able to crush them with your fingers and they turn brown immediately. I have a way to separate it.

 

[TheAddicted]

How to Separate N-iso Easily; and Why You Should

TDLR - skip to deez nuts. Go back your hot pockets and masturbation this is grown folk conversation for ppl that care about our bodies.


Isopropylbenzlamine is not some mystery chemical. It’s a psychoactive intermediate compound that is a “building block for organic synthesis”. That is according to its manufacturers in China. According to scarce documentation by the DEA, it can supposedly be made into methamphetamine, but not by any simple route. It is a rather complex procedure when compared to the numerous ways in which p2p(the current standard meth production) can be made and reductively aminated. Still though, it is possible due to it being a structural isomer of methamphetamine. That is not the same as an enantiomer so to speak, which can be misleading and confusing. For intents and purposes it can be looked at like a building block. Except this building block, even by itself has properties and effects on the human body that are psychoactive(to a small degree) and physically tolling.

Think about it like raw flour. A baker can make it into biscuits, cakes, bread and countless other foods but it is not intended for direct consumption. It even states so right on the product itself, and on just about every product that contains it. Something in the lines of “do not eat raw flour/dough….” That is because of the potential bacteria in the flour and the active enzymes and yeast cultures. If you have ever tasted flour which had not been thoroughly cooked you would know it immediately. It’s very distasteful and uninviting. And most importantly, it can make you very sick. Flour that is raw has the potential to host a gambit of pathogens and disease. Our bodies are not designed to handle such raw materials because of the amount of energy it takes to rid itself of them.

Isopropylbenzlamine, IBA or N-Iso for short is the “flour” of a much larger group of what are called “amines”. These are ammonia based psychoactive compounds and make up the majority of the stimulants we all know. *[They are basic in nature, meaning that their purest form free from any adulterants(freebase) is actually an oil]* This is why it can be difficult to separate such compounds in extractions and distillations. Oils are typically miscible with each other, meaning they mix and dissolve into one another. Iso in its freebase form is an oil just the same, so despite reports of it being removed by these methods it is impractical and far too complex for the normal stimulant user.

But keep in mind that this compound is like the flour we know we are not supposed to eat. Iso can cause a host of problems when consumed, because our bodies are not equipped to rid this chemical efficiently. Especially when it is working overtime already trying to disperse and remove the other compounds like meth. Meth heavily taxes our CNS, liver and kidneys so you could only imagine what iso is capable of because of its structural similarity. It builds and collects in our systems because our bodies cannot get rid of it fast enough. It’s like trying to funnel 5 lanes in the one on the highway. Also because it’s so similar, the brain has trouble differentiating which compound to use to fill its dopamine receptor slot. We all know, meth mimics dopamine and tricks the brain to picking it instead, Causing dopamine depletion. So imagine what happens when the brain picks the iso molecule instead of structurally similar meth.

Then of course, you have a whole array of physical symptoms and side effects. Some of which are said to mimic Levomethamphetamine, but none of them seem to be reported as enjoyable or desirable. And that’s just the short term ones we have all become familiar with. Sleepiness. lethargy, gastro intestinal problems, trouble urinating, irregular and strange bowel movements, Headaches , nausea, dry skin, Vasoconstriction, numbness, Edema(swelling) heart problems and a whole mess of other ones. Eventually so much iso will buildup in your system the body will go into overdrive shedding it any way it can.

Speculation would suggest this is why sleep is induced so much from this chemical, since the body repairs itself when sleeping. Simply put there’s so many toxins in the body that the brain has no other choice but to pull rank and shit itself down. The brains main function is to keep the body alive, And to avoid interference or contradiction from consciousness it just relies on its default settins to heal while sleeping.

The symptoms of overexposure and build up appear to have long-term negative effects as presumed. Some problems are caused by the repetitive vasoconstriction and loss of blood to extremities. Many involve the buildup of toxins in the skin and soft tissue which is the body‘s largest organ. Chronic users may be experiencing reoccurring skin problems like bumps, lesions and boils cropping up or wounds that do not heal. Or similarly damage or skin breaks taking extremely long time to heal. Others may feel their skin and muscles tightening and hardening, or pain in joints and bones. This is best compared to arthritis or gout. Many of these soft tissue Problem lead to Worst ones. Including but not limited to secondary infections such as staph, impetigo, cellulitis, malassezia and the very serious MRSA. Speculation which suggest this is the theory behind the so-called “crank bugs” and “meth mites.” It’s literally the body leeching out toxins and chemicals through your skin to get it self back to being healthy.

Another notable long-term effect is the swelling of extremities, mainly feet and legs. It will start out as vasoconstriction and numbness occasionally, Progressively getting worse and worse as time goes on. So much so to the point where socks or shoes do not fit comfortably. Some movements can be difficult and range of motion is severely hindered. This is caused by a combination of vasoconstriction and toxicity in the soft tissue which causes the hardening and calcification. This seems to affect men more so than women but it’s noteworthy to mention that women seem to become more lethargic and narcoleptic-like because of these same toxins. Some may find themselves sleeping increasingly and odd times.

All this information and physical side effects have been manifesting In the last few years, as this imposter has become more and more prevalent in the drug scene. Its increasing presence as a cut in meth(or as meth itself) is now believed to be commonplace, where it’s role as an intermediate is being exploited. Iso forms large, geometrical crystals easily from water and alcohols and incorporates p2p-style meth right into its crystalline lattice(given the proper conditions)Some argue this is by design and the sole purpose of creating this compound was to serve as a binder. That argument is a good one however. Being that it’s backed by published works which definitively expresses how todays racemic meth(p2p) does not crystallize into shards. It wouldn’t require a skilled chemist to order drums of IBA , melt it to a liquid and sprinkle in p2p while it all hardens back up and crystallizes. This is just speculation of course, but there is some science behind it. (If it were chemist basing the two compounds, mixing the oils together and then crystallizing it would be a different story. In fact a compound would have a much hard time crystallizing that way)

Because of this lackadaisical methodology, the end user who doesn’t want to experience any of these symptoms should rest easy knowing that this can be curtailed. And because the lack of complexity by the cartels mixing it, the way in which can be separated is very similar process in which its added, just basically in reverse.

Now remember, If the everyday user wants to remove this stuff from their product they will be disappointed in the amount of meth it contains . That’s almost a guarantee. So much so, it would not be a surprise that upon separation or crystallization one may discover there is no meth at all. So if someone doesn’t want to know the truth, then The best thing to do would probably not try this.

HOW TO SEPARATE METH FROM N-ISO;
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Materials Needed:
- round bottom flask, or tall wineglass(need plastic wrap or something to seal to cover)
- 91% Isopropyl Alcohol (other concentrations will work but take longer)
- microwave
- freezer(optional)

*Roughly 1g of crystal can be dissolved into (each) 1 ml of isopropyl alcohol [IPA]Borh meth and iso are very soluble in this alcohol so it won’t take much, especially when using it hot. *

- Take alleged meth and pulverize into smaller workable size pieces or powder.

- Heat up alcohol in the microwave till it boils, and continue for a second or two. A good trick is to change the power level setting on a microwave to 7 or 6. It’s that setting it will allow small intervals of rest in between soft boils

- Once you have your Alcohol piping hot, drip it into your flask or glass containing product. Stir thoroughly until all is dissolved and solution becomes saturated Completely. Swiftly place it back in the microwave on you’re lowered setting again boiling softly just for a few more seconds

* (It can only help to keep it partially covered or vented during this process to prevent open-air contamination. More often than not, the air we breathe can ruin a batch of crystal during recrystallization. Ideal environment inert atmosphere or none at all)

- Before you Remove the vessel from the microwave make an observation to see if there is a formation of a white crust or crystals around the inside of the glass. Accompanied by formation of crystals in the pool of liquid. This will occur almost simultaneously, And quickly so be attentive.

-If both are observed, seal the vessel to promote faster and more sound crystal growth (On the contrary, If none are present continue to heat until You see them precipitate)

*(If one is too impatient and/or sets the microwave too high(or heats too long) it will force Crystallize incorporating all the impurities of the air in it. When most people try to re-crystallize. This is why a cover is essential in this procedure when using a wine glass. It doesn’t have to be airtight ironically But it doesn’t hurt)*

-The Individual using round bottom flask does not need to stopper it. In fact any vessel or glass that is tapered down as it rises would be efficient in this process. It just needs to be able to contain the vapors in the atmosphere above the solvent. Vapors of alcohol are generally more dense than air and will hug the ground or sink.

*Swirling or stirring is NOT necessary in fact It will actually retard the process. Remember the idea is to promote Seperation and encourage Crystal growth *

When the proper measures are observed and taken this procedure is done quite easily. In addition, the effectiveness of the separation is quite remarkable for its simplicity.

As the solvent cools and begins to evaporate, Crystals will bind with each other forming groups. What’s being exploited is Meth’s affinity for water, and isopropylbenzlamine solubility in isopropyl alcohol. The mechanism is not fully being explained, but the fundamental idea behind crystallization it’s been capitalized on.

The result is a pool containing Broad, needlelike crystals stacked in the figure of a teepee. This “teepee” is submerged in the Alcohol/Solvent called the mother liquor. It’s composition is water solvent impurities and of course, crystals.

The significant factor here is that IPA and water form What is Called in azeotrope. Simply put it is combination of liquids that evaporate at the same speed. Upon evaporation these two different compounds crash out of the vapor in two different fashions because they’re not the same chemical. One goes to the alcohol the other stays lingering above it and gets stuck to the glass. All the contaminants, cut and everything that’s not a crystal stays in the mother liquor. It will produce until the ratio is no longer in favor of making crystal formations.

Lastly one would take a blade or cut straw and separate the crystals mechanically. It’s a crude procedure, but not too difficult to complete. The little crystals around the inside of the glass are methamphetamine. The wet ones in the bottom which are still sitting in mother liquor are iso. A cut straw or a spoon is best for scooping the dryer crystals around the rim onto a separate saucer. Left out with a paper towel or similar covering it loosely, the meth will dry best at room temperature because it is a Hydrochloride salt. They do not need to be washed with acetone, heated or manipulated in anyway. Isopropylbenzlamine can be taken out of the liquid and dried as well however its uses are quite limited obviously

It works y’all. I’ve been testing it out for the past few months and this Method is full proof and works every time.

Quit consuming iso it is very bad for your health. Raising awareness and making it easy to pull out of this crap should contribute something I hope