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Heroin Heroin and Seroquel/Quetiapine

wholikespornos

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How long dooes a person have to stop taking Seroquel for Heroin to have an effect?
I had been taking Seroquel for about one month and quit taking it around ten days ago. I was only taking 100mg. How long do I have to wait til the Seroquel is out of my system and I can feel the effects of H?
 
What are you taking the quetiapine for? Sometimes it can be really dangerous to discontinue psych meds all of a sudden.

Quetiapine's half-life is like 7-12hrs, so ten days should be more than enough time for it to get out of your system. Are you saying it's been ten days since you took it and you still don't feel any effects from heroin?

I'd be curious to hear how much you've been trying to use.
 
I was taking the quetiapine for Schizophrenia.
Yes it's been ten days since I last took it and still don't feel any effects from Heroin.
I tried using anywhere from as little as 30mg up to 100mg and still no effect. It's not crap stuff as the person I got it off used it and it worked
 
Please reconsider not taking your medication, or at least taking something that your doctor can help monitor that is as or more effective.

I wonder if all other opioids have the same issue with quetiapine?

Frankly, if you aren't able to feel the heroin after not taking the psych med for ten days, I don't really know what to say. Perhaps try using some diphenhydramine or promethazine to potentiate it a little or slightly increasing your dose of heroin.

But please reconsider not taking whatever psych meds you might also need, as they will almost certainly lend themselves to more stability than heroin use will. But maybe sometime down the road you will be able to find a more effective medication or substance, both more effective than heroin (or equally powerful opioids) and more effective than atypical antipsychotics or other psych meds that have a lot of side effects.

How long have you been being treated for schizophrenia?
 
I was injected with Flupenthixol til about the start of March. I've found that injection half life is about three weeks so it would be that injection that is stopping the effects from Heroin
I've been treated for schizophrenia for about a year
 
I don't get whatwholikespornos is talking about, Seroquel doesn't stop heroin from having a effect. There's no scientific reason a anti-psychotic would stop heroin from working or making you feel good. I personally had around a two dozen 100 mg iV shots of China white heroin around the 2003 to 2006 period while i was on the anti-psychotic Olanzipien and i can tell you for sure heroin has an effect on you regardless if your on a anti-psychotic medication or not/ did you IV the 100 mg of heroin or did you snort or smoke it? People may go on about how dangerous using heroin is for the first time but 100 mg is only going to effect you in a noticeable way if you IV. When using heroin either by smoking or snorting you really need at least 200 mg and even then the high will be quite subtle.....I have been taking seroquel to treat schizophrenia since 2008 and i must have snorted or smoked China white Heroin at least 30 or 40 times since 2008 and while on the times i used heroin I used way more than 100 mg typically 300 mg to 500 mg i did feel good from using the heroin.
 
I was injected with Flupenthixol til about the start of March. I've found that injection half life is about three weeks so it would be that injection that is stopping the effects from Heroin
I've been treated for schizophrenia for about a year

Mate again Anti-psychotic medication does not stop heroin working. Flupenthixol is a older anti-psychotic medication and think about it, if a injection of Flupenthixol really did stop heroin or opiates from working ex heroin addicts who wanted to avoid relapsing would be lining up at their local acute mental health clinic to get injections of Flupenthixol .

You really need to score some proper Heroin because if you get the real goods you will certainly know about it.
 
I snorted it. So your saying I would hardly feel anything if I sniff or smoke it and only take 100mg & i won't feel anything and i need at least 400-500mg to feel anything if sniffed or smoked?
 
I don't get whatwholikespornos is talking about, Seroquel doesn't stop heroin from having a effect. There's no scientific reason a anti-psychotic would stop heroin from working or making you feel good. I personally had around a two dozen 100 mg iV shots of China white heroin around the 2003 to 2006 period while i was on the anti-psychotic Olanzipien and i can tell you for sure heroin has an effect on you regardless if your on a anti-psychotic medication or not/ did you IV the 100 mg of heroin or did you snort or smoke it? People may go on about how dangerous using heroin is for the first time but 100 mg is only going to effect you in a noticeable way if you IV. When using heroin either by smoking or snorting you really need at least 200 mg and even then the high will be quite subtle.....I have been taking seroquel to treat schizophrenia since 2008 and i must have snorted or smoked China white Heroin at least 30 or 40 times since 2008 and while on the times i used heroin I used way more than 100 mg typically 300 mg to 500 mg i did feel good from using the heroin.

compare that to iv, how much would i need for iv?

should i sniff 300mg and see if it have any effect?
 
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Seroquel and H are a bad combination...when I was in a home less shelter last December my buddy Chad passed away
he offered me half a Seroquel and I took it but at that time I was smoking H not slamming...he slammed about a .3 of Tar and I know
he had blue footballs (1 MG Xanax) prescribed so I don't know if he had those in his system...just be careful please
 
Seroquel and H are a bad combination...when I was in a home less shelter last December my buddy Chad passed away
he offered me half a Seroquel and I took it but at that time I was smoking H not slamming...he slammed about a .3 of Tar and I know
he had blue footballs (1 MG Xanax) prescribed so I don't know if he had those in his system...just be careful please

what happened when you took seroquel and heroin?
 
I don't get whatwholikespornos is talking about, Seroquel doesn't stop heroin from having a effect. There's no scientific reason a anti-psychotic would stop heroin from working or making you feel good. I personally had around a two dozen 100 mg iV shots of China white heroin around the 2003 to 2006 period while i was on the anti-psychotic Olanzipien and i can tell you for sure heroin has an effect on you regardless if your on a anti-psychotic medication or not/ did you IV the 100 mg of heroin or did you snort or smoke it? People may go on about how dangerous using heroin is for the first time but 100 mg is only going to effect you in a noticeable way if you IV. When using heroin either by smoking or snorting you really need at least 200 mg and even then the high will be quite subtle.....I have been taking seroquel to treat schizophrenia since 2008 and i must have snorted or smoked China white Heroin at least 30 or 40 times since 2008 and while on the times i used heroin I used way more than 100 mg typically 300 mg to 500 mg i did feel good from using the heroin.

I sniffed 3 & a half points (350mg) the other night & just felt a bit relaxed & a bit itchy.
Do you really have to sniff/smoke large amounts like 500mg to feel anything compared to IV?
 
Depends what your tolerance is, the quality of the dope and (if you smoke it) the technique you're using.
 
Please reconsider not taking your medication, or at least taking something that your doctor can help monitor that is as or more effective.

I wonder if all other opioids have the same issue with quetiapine?

Frankly, if you aren't able to feel the heroin after not taking the psych med for ten days, I don't really know what to say. Perhaps try using some diphenhydramine or promethazine to potentiate it a little or slightly increasing your dose of heroin.

But please reconsider not taking whatever psych meds you might also need, as they will almost certainly lend themselves to more stability than heroin use will. But maybe sometime down the road you will be able to find a more effective medication or substance, both more effective than heroin (or equally powerful opioids) and more effective than atypical antipsychotics or other psych meds that have a lot of side effects.

How long have you been being treated for schizophrenia?

It is highly dangerous to suggest to someone that they consider combining drugs. This is advice that has the capacity to kill someone. This is the scenario that kills opioid and other drug users and is erroneously referred to as 'overdose'. When drugs are combined, heavy sedation can result. This can lead to airway obstruction and asphyxiation. This is not related to 'respiratory depression'. What I have just said may be confronting to you, and I'm sorry about that, but it had to be said.
 
what happened when you took seroquel and heroin?

Do NOT combine drugs under any circumstances. This is the scenario that kills opioid and other drug users and is erroneously referred to as 'overdose'. When drugs are combined, heavy sedation can result. This can lead to airway obstruction and asphyxiation. This is not related to 'respiratory depression'.
 
I don't get whatwholikespornos is talking about, Seroquel doesn't stop heroin from having a effect. There's no scientific reason a anti-psychotic would stop heroin from working or making you feel good. I personally had around a two dozen 100 mg iV shots of China white heroin around the 2003 to 2006 period while i was on the anti-psychotic Olanzipien and i can tell you for sure heroin has an effect on you regardless if your on a anti-psychotic medication or not/ did you IV the 100 mg of heroin or did you snort or smoke it? People may go on about how dangerous using heroin is for the first time but 100 mg is only going to effect you in a noticeable way if you IV. When using heroin either by smoking or snorting you really need at least 200 mg and even then the high will be quite subtle.....I have been taking seroquel to treat schizophrenia since 2008 and i must have snorted or smoked China white Heroin at least 30 or 40 times since 2008 and while on the times i used heroin I used way more than 100 mg typically 300 mg to 500 mg i did feel good from using the heroin.

Just so the OP knows, 100mg of (pure) heroin is a heavy and potentially lethal dose for a new opiate user (if that is the case here). I used to sniff 10 milligrams of china white heroin measured with a milligram scale and it was a little too much to be comfortable regarding respiratory depression since I had only been using painkillers daily, mostly oxy's and hydromorphone, for a year back then. I had a naturally low tolerance when I first started, and a lot of people do. Anything more than 10 to 20 milligrams, sniffing close to pure dope could kill a new user in my opinion, especially if they were on a med like xanax too (or something as sedating as seroquel for that matter), which is often the case as people who even try heroin often have pre-existing problems.

Erowid lists a common insufflated dose with no tolerance as 5 to 40mg, and a strong IV dose as 8 to 15 milligrams for a non-tolerant user. I used daily for 5 years, and by the end of it I was still sniffing 50mg doses to get high. I am still quitting and since I haven't used in a couple weeks, despite my tolerance I'd start with 20mg personally if I got it again, and I'd sniff it in two lines 15 minutes apart just to be safe. I mean, it's fuckin heroin. I just thought I'd comment here because those are very high doses if the dope is anything good, and it is laced with so many things these days by street dealers that it is an enormous risk to use doses that high.

I used percocets when I was on seroquel, and they made me really anxious until I stopped using the antipsychotic (I'm not schizophrenic, I was prescribed it for very severe and frequent panic attacks by a doctor who lost his privilege of prescribing a benzo. Then I just stopped trusting doctors because I feel like a year of quetiapine fucked my head up for a while. I was pharmacy hopping and using a gram a day of the stuff (holy fuck, looking back on that!). Eventually a psychiatrist gave me some xanax and told me to stop taking the seroquel since I was constantly showing up at the ER in the hospital due to the panic attacks.

Even after 5 years of habitual use with very few opiate-free days, I would not sniff 300mg of heroin all at once, especially if I had been sick for a while. I think that would be really dangerous, although my H was chipped off a key. I'm just pointing this out as those are extremely dangerous doses to use with no tolerance, and if you have excellent quality heroin or something cut with a fentanyl analogue. A strong insufflated dose for a new user is listed on erowid as 20 to 60 milligrams and I would say that is to absolutely nod the fuck out - 300mg of pure diacetylmorphine could very easily OD a user with no tolerance so I felt the need to speak up here.

It sounds like if new users are sniffing 300 to 500 milligrams they are getting fucking garbage H. If I sniffed 350mg heroin, with a 5 year opiate addiction and I was very high that whole time, I would not just feel relaxed and a bit itchy. I would overdose because I know my limits with good quality heroin and that is WAY beyond them. If you got anything close to pure, you would be dead sniffing that amount in my opinion. Please be careful. I've never even snorted 100mg of the dope before in my life, never even once, and I have been consistently getting raw from the same excellent source. I am also very addicted - 2 weeks into withdrawal and I am still nearly bedridden from it and decided to get on suboxone for the next couple weeks. Honestly what kind of shit are people slinging these days.
 
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The guy I got it off said he IV's a few points to get a good high going and that's without tolerance.
Guess it is garbage then if I dont need 500mg to feel anything like that guy said.
 
People have different natural tolerance levels too, but it's definitely cut to shit at that dose. It's impossible to say how cut. It could be 2% pure or 90%. You shouldn't have to IV it starting out, sniffing a match head sized bump should get you high as fuck if it's good, and if not do one 15 minutes later to be safe, and repeat until high.

Honestly this is really irresponsible behaviour, also you should do test bumps like that with every new batch. Just because the dealer said to IV a few points, well what if that killed you. Honestly in my opinion you are lucky. If you did that with my dope you'd be so fucked. I go through over a gram of oxy in three days (just saying my tolerance fucking sucks), and I would never IV two points of the stuff I get. Ever, you could not pay me to do it because I would overdose. I IV'd around 20 milligrams for a great euphoric high the few times I tried it that way, a fucking order of magnitude less!

I'm just reading about the doses being used on this thread and thinking it is fucking ridiculous, I was definitely getting really good dope all those years, but it wasn't street level. When I was starting out I used the Erowid charts, and the lowest dose mentioned, knowing that a lot of people say to start off with the match head sized bump and wait 15 minutes before doing any more if necessary.
 
People have different natural tolerance levels too, but it's definitely cut to shit at that dose. It's impossible to say how cut. It could be 2% pure or 90%. You shouldn't have to IV it starting out, sniffing a match head sized bump should get you high as fuck if it's good, and if not do one 15 minutes later to be safe, and repeat until high.

Honestly this is really irresponsible behaviour, also you should do test bumps like that with every new batch. Just because the dealer said to IV a few points, well what if that killed you. Honestly in my opinion you are lucky. If you did that with my dope you'd be so fucked. I go through over a gram of oxy in three days (just saying my tolerance fucking sucks), and I would never IV two points of the stuff I get. Ever, you could not pay me to do it because I would overdose. I IV'd around 20 milligrams for a great euphoric high the few times I tried it that way, a fucking order of magnitude less!

I'm just reading about the doses being used on this thread and thinking it is fucking ridiculous, I was definitely getting really good dope all those years, but it wasn't street level. When I was starting out I used the Erowid charts, and the lowest dose mentioned, knowing that a lot of people say to start off with the match head sized bump and wait 15 minutes before doing any more if necessary.

I didn't just sniff 3 & a half points as soon as I got it. I worked my way up. I thought it was my anti epileptic medication that was blocking the effects but thats out of my system now & I had some meth the other day & today & I can feel it so no issues there.

What I don't get is he said he needs a few points IV'd and thats with no tolerance & he said it was strong. Maybe Heroin just doesn't work well for me, who knows.

Also that guy up above saying you need at least 500mg to even feel it if you're snorting or smoking it is pretty fucked for a harm reduction site. His post should be deleted.
 
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