Conainaily
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Hello!
I've been searching Google trying to get answers regarding this for hours, and even this forum (via Google's website search function), but I can't seem to find the answer to my specific problem, and could use some advice.
I've been prescribed Tramadol now for roughly 3 years, the IR kind, 50mg Tramadol HCL, for my pain which strikes at least half the week and can knock me out of action for hours at a time. Tramadol worked wonders, and still does around 70% of the time, but after 3 years, I've been pretty much at the max dose of 400mg daily give or take 50-100mg. Sometimes, even that's not enough over the day to get rid of some nasty attacks, which is why I requested a stronger medicine. My usual doses of Tramadol would normally be split across the day in 3 lots, such as 150/150/100, 100/200/100, 200/100/100, 100/200/0, 100/100/100 and so on. That does a good job a good deal of the time, and leaves me with a calm, relaxed, happy-sedation type feeling, almost numb, but not quite fully there, which is a bonus. Although some days I'd feel that, others I wouldn't, that seemed random.
Moving on, I was always aware of the potential seizure risk, and didn't like that I was on 250-400mg per day, it just seemed excessive but necessary, and surely a stronger drug in a lower dosage would be better for me?! So, I contacted my doctor, and he agreed that I should try something else, and I suggested Oxycodone, now we're talking the straight kind, no other meds mixed in, and instant relief, just like the Tramadol. He suggested take one every 4-6 hours as needed, 20-30mg per day, which is supposed to be around 400-600mg of Tramadol as far as conversation in pain relief?
I know all about the SNRI/SSRI properties of Tramadol, and asked if I'd be fine switching straight over to Oxy without tapering, and he said I should be fine, as did the few similar bits of info I found online. However... all of today, I have felt the same feelings I'd get if I went a day without any Tramadol, it's a weird feeling, and not a nice one, and I'll try my best to describe it. It feels like an energy wants to burst through your skin, like an agitation, almost like the urge one would get to punch something minus the anger, just that urge! It's almost pulsating in quality, but I wouldn't call it restless, as I can sit still, but this isn't a nice feeling at all, and I know I felt this when ceasing Tramadol for a day, so I know I'm in some type of withdrawal from something. I'm also experiencing temperature fluctuations, as in one minute I feel hot, then eventually cold, and back up, in fact my ears are hot right now, which has always been an indication of me being ill.
Today, I've had the following dosages with their times, and in one case, it was near food:
1. 1PM - 5MG (Ate a chicken breast sandwich 15 minutes before and around 20 minutes later)
2. 3:45PM - 5MG
3. 4:50PM - 5MG (felt crap here, so took another to see if that would make me feel normal)
4. 9:05PM - 5MG (could feel some pain creeping in)
5. 2:15AM - 5MG (pain still there, but faint, this didn't help much to my surprise)
And here I am at 8AM, still feel bad, if anything it may be a stronger sensation now. I don't want to take more than 10-25mg a day at this point, for safety reasons, I want to see how this affects my breathing to be safe. Honestly, I don't think I've felt much of anything from Oxy on the first day, I mean I know when Tramadol is working, I can feel the affects on me as stated earlier, while the only time I believe I felt anything on this today was after the 4:50PM dose, probably due to the closeness of the previous one, where I felt slightly sleepy, for a brief amount of time.
To top it off, from what I've been reading here, it seems like Oxy is supposed to be much stronger than Tramadol, yet its almost like I've been taking a placebo all day. Despite the lack of other side effects, I've not felt any of the positive side effects from it either, and surely my opiate tolerance can't be that high for Oxy to work?! I have plenty of Tramadol next to me, and I know if I took 100mg right now, I'd feel normal and relaxed inside an hour, so I'm so confused here. Are the effects of SSRI withdrawal that bad that its stunting the Oxy? If so, how long will this last?
I really don't want to stay on Tramadol due to its risks anymore, but weaker analgesics in the past did nothing to help, and this seems to be not working so far. Actually, I say this, my forehead and maybe my lips feel slightly numb right now, but again, I feel like crap.
Any advice would be appreciated, as my doctor probably wouldn't get back to me today unless I said it was an emergency or something.
PS: If it is SSRI/SNRI withdrawals, would taking 50mg early in the day and late evening be a good temporary fix, at least while my body gets used to it not in my system? I've seen one site flag them as major interactions :/
I've been searching Google trying to get answers regarding this for hours, and even this forum (via Google's website search function), but I can't seem to find the answer to my specific problem, and could use some advice.
I've been prescribed Tramadol now for roughly 3 years, the IR kind, 50mg Tramadol HCL, for my pain which strikes at least half the week and can knock me out of action for hours at a time. Tramadol worked wonders, and still does around 70% of the time, but after 3 years, I've been pretty much at the max dose of 400mg daily give or take 50-100mg. Sometimes, even that's not enough over the day to get rid of some nasty attacks, which is why I requested a stronger medicine. My usual doses of Tramadol would normally be split across the day in 3 lots, such as 150/150/100, 100/200/100, 200/100/100, 100/200/0, 100/100/100 and so on. That does a good job a good deal of the time, and leaves me with a calm, relaxed, happy-sedation type feeling, almost numb, but not quite fully there, which is a bonus. Although some days I'd feel that, others I wouldn't, that seemed random.
Moving on, I was always aware of the potential seizure risk, and didn't like that I was on 250-400mg per day, it just seemed excessive but necessary, and surely a stronger drug in a lower dosage would be better for me?! So, I contacted my doctor, and he agreed that I should try something else, and I suggested Oxycodone, now we're talking the straight kind, no other meds mixed in, and instant relief, just like the Tramadol. He suggested take one every 4-6 hours as needed, 20-30mg per day, which is supposed to be around 400-600mg of Tramadol as far as conversation in pain relief?
I know all about the SNRI/SSRI properties of Tramadol, and asked if I'd be fine switching straight over to Oxy without tapering, and he said I should be fine, as did the few similar bits of info I found online. However... all of today, I have felt the same feelings I'd get if I went a day without any Tramadol, it's a weird feeling, and not a nice one, and I'll try my best to describe it. It feels like an energy wants to burst through your skin, like an agitation, almost like the urge one would get to punch something minus the anger, just that urge! It's almost pulsating in quality, but I wouldn't call it restless, as I can sit still, but this isn't a nice feeling at all, and I know I felt this when ceasing Tramadol for a day, so I know I'm in some type of withdrawal from something. I'm also experiencing temperature fluctuations, as in one minute I feel hot, then eventually cold, and back up, in fact my ears are hot right now, which has always been an indication of me being ill.
Today, I've had the following dosages with their times, and in one case, it was near food:
1. 1PM - 5MG (Ate a chicken breast sandwich 15 minutes before and around 20 minutes later)
2. 3:45PM - 5MG
3. 4:50PM - 5MG (felt crap here, so took another to see if that would make me feel normal)
4. 9:05PM - 5MG (could feel some pain creeping in)
5. 2:15AM - 5MG (pain still there, but faint, this didn't help much to my surprise)
And here I am at 8AM, still feel bad, if anything it may be a stronger sensation now. I don't want to take more than 10-25mg a day at this point, for safety reasons, I want to see how this affects my breathing to be safe. Honestly, I don't think I've felt much of anything from Oxy on the first day, I mean I know when Tramadol is working, I can feel the affects on me as stated earlier, while the only time I believe I felt anything on this today was after the 4:50PM dose, probably due to the closeness of the previous one, where I felt slightly sleepy, for a brief amount of time.
To top it off, from what I've been reading here, it seems like Oxy is supposed to be much stronger than Tramadol, yet its almost like I've been taking a placebo all day. Despite the lack of other side effects, I've not felt any of the positive side effects from it either, and surely my opiate tolerance can't be that high for Oxy to work?! I have plenty of Tramadol next to me, and I know if I took 100mg right now, I'd feel normal and relaxed inside an hour, so I'm so confused here. Are the effects of SSRI withdrawal that bad that its stunting the Oxy? If so, how long will this last?
I really don't want to stay on Tramadol due to its risks anymore, but weaker analgesics in the past did nothing to help, and this seems to be not working so far. Actually, I say this, my forehead and maybe my lips feel slightly numb right now, but again, I feel like crap.
Any advice would be appreciated, as my doctor probably wouldn't get back to me today unless I said it was an emergency or something.
PS: If it is SSRI/SNRI withdrawals, would taking 50mg early in the day and late evening be a good temporary fix, at least while my body gets used to it not in my system? I've seen one site flag them as major interactions :/
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