Hi. So me and my wife are both heroin addicts, been on pharms for 6 years heroin for the last year or so. Had enough of this shit, so we decided to get cleaned up. Tried cold turkey a few times but always stumbled around the 3 day mark or so. We both work so no chance of trying again soon. I scored some subutex (no naloxone), I'd like to try 'officially' but it isn't possible. We're both health care workers, and were told that there was a chance the psychiatrist (thats who prescribes bupe in the UK ) might potentially break confidence as we in theory have access to hard opiates. Although this is possible, we'd lose are jobs straight away as anything stronger than codeine is heavily controlled and codeine wouldn't touch the sides these days (I WISH it would).
So with fear of losing our jobs, income and eventually our home we're going to have to go it alone. Sunday was the day, so we finished our last heroin at 11.30pm on Saturday night, by 3pm on Sunday it felt like we were in moderate withdrawal so took 4mg of bupe. Well fuck me I've never experienced anything like it in my life, and my wife was just as bad. The most intense withdrawal I've ever felt. Severe puking (to the point where we could even sip water) diarrhoea and just generally rolling around in pain. It was worse than it sounds, but I guess you have to experience precipitated withdrawal to understand. Anyway I had someone deliver some H to me, it didn't do shit until about 7 am the next day, then we finally got aome relief.
I assume the mistake made was taking the sub to early? I'd done some reading and some people definitely said 12 hours was enough? I've only got limited subs, so the next time I really need them to work. Should I wait 24 hours?
Also once on the subs, we're planning a medium taper. Want to stabilise on an appropriate dose for maybe two weeks and then taper down. We've considered a quick taper, but using heroin is such a big part of our lives we feel we need a couple of weeks to get the daily ritual/lifestyle out of iur heads before jumping off. Also planning on going to NA meetings as by doing it ourselves we're missing out on the counselling etc. How does this sound, any help or advice would be very much appreciated. We're in so much debt we're close to losing everything, plus our health is getting more fucked every day. Thank you so much in advance.
So with fear of losing our jobs, income and eventually our home we're going to have to go it alone. Sunday was the day, so we finished our last heroin at 11.30pm on Saturday night, by 3pm on Sunday it felt like we were in moderate withdrawal so took 4mg of bupe. Well fuck me I've never experienced anything like it in my life, and my wife was just as bad. The most intense withdrawal I've ever felt. Severe puking (to the point where we could even sip water) diarrhoea and just generally rolling around in pain. It was worse than it sounds, but I guess you have to experience precipitated withdrawal to understand. Anyway I had someone deliver some H to me, it didn't do shit until about 7 am the next day, then we finally got aome relief.
I assume the mistake made was taking the sub to early? I'd done some reading and some people definitely said 12 hours was enough? I've only got limited subs, so the next time I really need them to work. Should I wait 24 hours?
Also once on the subs, we're planning a medium taper. Want to stabilise on an appropriate dose for maybe two weeks and then taper down. We've considered a quick taper, but using heroin is such a big part of our lives we feel we need a couple of weeks to get the daily ritual/lifestyle out of iur heads before jumping off. Also planning on going to NA meetings as by doing it ourselves we're missing out on the counselling etc. How does this sound, any help or advice would be very much appreciated. We're in so much debt we're close to losing everything, plus our health is getting more fucked every day. Thank you so much in advance.