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Has anyone EVER smoked Cannabis Ruderalis?

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I was just curious whether or not anyone on here has ever smoked Cannabis Ruderalis and if so, what it's effects were like in comparison to Sativa and Indica?

I guess it grows in certain parts of Russia which is possibly where the name comes from?

It's just odd because I have never once heard an account of anyone EVER smoking this strain.

Thanks
 
Its THC content is really low, so I don't think it's worth it. I do know it's useful in crossbreeding for reasons other than psychoactivity.
 
I don't understand what this means.

The Ruderalis variant (as opposed to Sativa or Indica) is where autoflowering plants come from.

Briefly; if I grow from seed (or clone) I will vegetative growth for let's say 12 weeks at 18 hours light/6 hours dark. On or about the 12th week I switch to 12 hours light/dark (among other things such as nutrient changes, etc) to induce flowering. Flower for let's say 4 weeks and then harvest vuds.

Autoflowers can be grown under 24 hour light periods and will automatically start to flower after a certain period of time regardless of light cycle.

Autoflowering dwarves are mini Marijuana plants 12-16 inches tall producing 14-42g per plant in ~60 days or less.

The Ruderalis is where the autoflowering genes come from. They do back crosses to maintain autoflowering capability while pumping up the THC.

Tom
 
The Ruderalis variant (as opposed to Sativa or Indica) is where autoflowering plants come from.

yeah. Lowryder is the most popular Ruderalis hybrid, I'm sure a lot of us have smoked it without even realizing
 
Ruderalis = Russia

... No? Ruderalis = rubble. Ruderal species are named so because they rapidly colonize disrupted environments like areas that have recently seen earthquakes or human development.
 
... No? Ruderalis = rubble. Ruderal species are named so because they rapidly colonize disrupted environments like areas that have recently seen earthquakes or human development.
Mushrooms do the same thing and it actually is extremely beneficial to the soil as it strengthens the ground with the underground mycelium web. Nature is amazing! Maybe we need more Ruderalis growing wild and free? Of course with miles of hemp as well. If a greenhouse is done right the massive amounts of pollen floating around it shouldn't affect the sensimilla growing her big fat juicy resinous buds.
 
I have, only weed's ever made me sleep (albeit with an anti-histamine cocktail thouh) in a car full of people.
 
There's not really a lot of evidence that suggests*the autoflowering strains we grow* are ruderalis and that they can be considered even a separate species. Sorry.

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It is a genetic variation like sativa and indica. I would assume that it's anther stain and not a new species
 
You are wrong. You are relying on information from internet forums and weed websites. That Wikipedia article is hardly doesn't really count as a source of information. You just simply posted a link to a photo telling me to see the wiki page - do you think I haven't seen that? I'm sorry but it gets pretty tiresome when people present this sort of information as fact. The autoflowering strains we grow are NOT ruderalis and there are other mechanisms through with the autoflowering trait can arise.

Dug up from an old post 'cause I'm lazy:

I have major doubts about ruderalis even as a species classification

it originates in 1924 with Russian botanist D.E. Yanischsky who was describing wild cannabis in southeastern Russia - e.g. the Altai

Vavilov used the term as synonymous with C. sativa var. spontanea...

the main feature is the wildness of the seeds --- their small size, how the perianth remains on seed after shed - so seeds appear marbled, multi-coloured and very dark... disguise - & horseshoes on the base (to attract bugs...?)

wild seeds from the Himalaya have the same thing with the perianth and horseshoe, so it hardly suffices as a species classification

for Vavilov, the plants I saw autoflowering in Pakistan would be f. afghanica

If you notice he refers to broad leaf plants and narrow leaf plants instead of the conventional sativa and indica classification in much the same way that he doubts the ruderalis classification.

Read this:

Cannabis origin and evolution studies

Humans have been attracted to Cannabis for a very long time, resulting in its wide distribution and multiple uses. Generally, we assume that the longer people use a plant, the greater the number of applications they will find for it. Cannabis has been used for millennia as a fiber, food and drug plant and ranks among the very oldest of economic plants. Many varieties of Cannabis have evolved through the pressures of natural selection within the diverse environments into which humans have introduced it, compounded by varying human selective pressures to provide hemp fiber, seed or resin. We should point out here that a controversy surrounds the taxonomy of Cannabis, which has been classified either as a monotypic genus, containing only a single species, Cannabis sativa, or a polytypic genus, including up to three species, Cannabis sativa (NLH and NLHA), Cannabis indica (NLD, NLDA, BLD and BLH) and possibly Cannabis ruderalis (PA) which is the taxonomy we support (see the Table of Acronyms and also Chapter 10for a more detailed discussion of Cannabis taxonomy). In any case, we suggest that there are three population types for Cannabis plants based on their natural origins and associations with humans: (1) those that are truly wild, (2) those that are cultivated and (3) those that grow spontaneously in areas associated with (and often disturbed by) humans, either derived from wild populations or from feral escapes from cultivation. We rely on the ecological requirements and reproductive strategies of Cannabis to offer clues as to which regions it inhabited prior to human contact. The present geographical distribution of truly wild and feralpopulations should also provide us with a good indication of the geographical region, or at least the ecological conditions, within which it evolved.

The first criterion when searching for the geographical origin of a cultivated plant is to determine the range of its truly wild growth (de Candolle 1967). At first this may seem straightforward, with relatively easy solutions resulting from a survey of herbarium specimens, biodiversity surveys and guidebooks to native floras. Cannabis, however, is particularly difficult to study in this respect as it was among the very early plants to be cultivated and spread by humans. Consequently it has escaped from cultivation repeatedly and has become naturalized (feral) in a wide range of environments throughout Eurasia and North America.Early Cannabis is characterized as a weedy camp follower, living on nutrient-rich dump heaps associated with human occupation and as such was pre-adapted to cultivation (Anderson 1967, Merlin 1972). Consequently, it is difficult for observers to accurately determine if a self-sown population of Cannabis is truly wild, and therefore indigenous to a region, or if it is growing spontaneously as a feral escape from ancient or recent cultivation.

Cannabis is particularly adept at naturalizing to a range of temperate and sub-tropical climates. The contemporary geographical range of Cannabis in all its biotypes (ecotypes, subspecies or varieties) is immense, and it grows spontaneously or cultivated, or both, in many regions. If a plant was recorded in a region and at a later date has vanished, it may be assumed that it was either not indigenous to that region and only introduced for a time, or was native but became extinct in that part of its original truly wild range. Conversely, because a plant maintains its spontaneous growth in an area does not necessarily mean that it is indigenous to that region; as an introduced species it might, in fact, have found a niche favorable for its continued proliferation and become naturalized and even invasive. For example, Cannabis is found today growing as a weed along streams, drainage ditches and farm fields across temperate continental areas of North America where it was introduced from Europe in the 17th century.

The diversity of Cannabis populations, both in terms of morphology and economic usage, varies from region to region. Areas of rich diversity are often interpreted as probable places of origin, or at least areas with lengthy periods of naturalization, since increased diversity can be a product of increased time during which to diversify. However, great diversity within a region is not always a sign of antiquity. Alien plants often evolve quite rapidly under a new set of natural and/or human cultural (artificial) selection pressures encountered in new habitats and can diversify extensively in a relatively short time.

The famous Swiss botanist Alphonse de Candolle (1967) postulated that agricultural crops in particular are subject to sudden and often radical evolutionary pressures of human selection for a particular plant product such as fiber, food or drug. A cultivated plant varies from its wild ancestor primarily in those economically or culturally valuable characteristics for which it is grown and selected. Feral escapes from cultivation will often vary in these same characteristics. Other characteristics tend to vary much less, as they are of less importance to the farmer, and thus are not as affected by careful scrutiny and selection. De Candolle's basic principles accounting for morphological changes in crop plants during domestication still hold true. However, physiological changes are probably of greater importance as plants adapt to new ecological conditions but are harder to recognize as they leave no direct fossil evidence.

As we have noted, Cannabis grows in a wide variety of areas across distant regions of the world and thrives in temperate continental climates. But because its distribution is often so closely associated with human settlements or trade routes, the original native range is obscured. Today it is widely believed that Cannabis is indigenous to some area in the broad region referred to as Central Asia (e.g., Vavilov 1931, Schultes 1969a/b, Merlin 1972, Damania 1998).

Central Asia: Vavilov and the origins of Cannabis

Parts of Central Asia (from the Caucasus to the Altai Mountains), South Asia (through the foothills of the Himalaya and Hindu Kush Mountains) and East Asia (in the mountainous Hengduan-Yungui region or along the Yangzi River and Huang He (Yellow River) of present-day China) have all been proposed as possible locations for the area of natural origin and/or primary domestication of Cannabis, and all these regions likely played a role in Cannabis evolution at one time or another. Exact geographical origin is unclear today because Cannabis' range shifted repeatedly during glacial-interglacial cycles covering hundreds of thousands of years. Perhaps soon after Holocene warming began about 12,000 years ago, or later during the advent of agriculture, it was spread across Eurasia by humans. In any case, we believe Central Asia offers by far the most plausible location for the primary origin and early evolution of Cannabis.

De Candolle (1967) stated that Cannabis occurs "wild" only south of the Caspian Sea, in Siberia near the Irtysch River, and in the Khirgiz Desert beyond Lake Baikal; he also suggested that it was first cultivated in southern Siberia. The Indian Hemp Drugs Commission Report (1893-94; see Kaplan 1969) identified a broad area encompassing the southern Himalayan foothills from Kashmir through Nepal and northeastern India as the region of spontaneous growth. Currently, the range of self-sown growth extends throughout Eastern Europe into the western and central regions of the former Soviet Union and across northern South and Southeast Asia. Cannabis grows spontaneously, as well, in its introduced ranges in parts of Africa south of the Sahara Desert and in parts of temperate, central North America (Hulten 1970)and as a weed in farm fields and disturbed niches across temperate China where it has escaped from cultivation (International Association of Agricultural Economists 1973).

Fieldwork and theories of the famous Russian botanist, Nicolai Ivanovich Vavilov (1931) added considerably to our understanding of crop plant origins. Vavilov studied phenotypic diversity (variation of observable traits) within Central Asian Cannabis, made many first-hand observations of the genus and usedit as an example of how to differentiate between a genuinely wild plant and a more recent escape from cultivation. Some of these characteristics of domestication are also found in wild cereals. His four criteria for identifying wild Cannabis were as follows:



1 - Germination of seed is slow and irregular,

2 - Seed coat [reduced perianth] persists as an outer husk around the seed, developing a camouflaging pattern,

3 - Seed has oil glands, and these attract various insects that remove and distribute them,

4 - Inflorescence shatters and distributes the seeds.



Vavilov and Bukinich (1929) reported that weedy Cannabis occurred commonly in irrigated parts of Afghanistan. More importantly, Vavilov (1931) also wrote about his 1929 visit to Chinese Turkestan to look for evidence of proposed origins of several wild and cultivated plants. Chinese Turkestan, in present-day Xinjiang province of China, lies north and northwest of the Himalayan Mountains and Qinghai-Xizang plateau, southwest of the Tian Shan Mountains and northeast of the Pamir Plateau; it is separated from the whole of China by the Taklimakan Desert to the east. Vavilov reported numerous thick stands of cultivated Cannabis in valleys of Chinese Turkestan and along the slopes south of the Tian Shan Mountains as well as its occurrence as a common weed throughout the Russian provinces of Irkutsk, Omsk and east to the Amur River. He concluded that the majority of the cultivated plants of the region were predominately imports from China to the east, or Afghanistan and Pakistan to the southwest. However, Vavilov considered Cannabis to be a native crop that originated in Central Asia.

Vavilov characterized wild and weedy Cannabis populations from Chinese Turkestan and northern Central Asia (1931) as "shattering forms with a horseshoe at the base of the fruit, with seeds of different size, up to the dimensions of the cultivated large-seeded forms." Wild hemp, according to Vavilov, was utilized only occasionally by local people for the manufacture of cordage, and he commented that the people of Central Asia extracted hemp fibers in a most primitive way and without retting-merely pulling the fibers from the dry stalks. Its utilization, however, was especially extensive in the Altai Mountains, and he surmised that it was there that wild hemp could have been a likely candidate for cultivation near settled populations. Vavilov observed what may have been a vestige of ancient hunter-gatherer (by then pastoralist) use of Cannabis, collecting wild hemp fiber in the mountains at the beginning of autumn before moving into lower valleys to avoid the cold winter. Similarly the Nu, an ethnic minority of part-time pastoralists living in Yunnan province, China, will sow hemp seeds along ridges in early summer while grazing their livestock and leave the crop unattended until they return in autumn to collect winter fodder, when they thresh the hemp seeds, strip off the bark and haul it back to town for processing, spinning and weaving (Clarke 1996, personal observation).

Vavilov and Bukinich (1929) generally characterized Afghan Cannabis as short in stature with short internodes and profuse branching from the first node. Eastern Afghan varieties were described as having small leaves with egg-shapedleaflets with their narrow ends toward the base, and extremely small dark-colored seeds that shattered and dispersed easily-characteristic of wild plants. Vavilov termed this wild Cannabis of eastern Afghanistan, which commonly had dark gray seeds with a marbled seed coat pattern, C. indica var. kafiristanica. Hillig and Mahlberg (2004) preserved this name and assigned it to wild and feral narrow-leaf drug ancestor (NLDA) biotypes. A second variety was described with a colorless seed coat and named C. indica variety afghanica. Hillig and Mahlberg (2004) also preserved this name to represent broad-leaf drug (BLD) biotypes, which they called wide-leaf drug biotypes (see also Chapter 10). Vavilov concluded that Afghan Cannabis varieties were entirely different from both wild and cultivated European and Asiatic Cannabis and therefore must be considered as varieties of C. indica Lam. Vavilov also pointed out that "C. sativa L." of the European type was cultivated for hashish in northern Afghanistan. We recognize this as the C. indica ssp. indica narrow-leaf drug (NLD) biotype based on its resemblance to European hemp (tall with narrow leaves) and its high THC content (Hillig and Mahlberg 2004).

Earlier, Russian botanist D. E. Janischevsky (1924) described and published descriptions of a new species, Cannabis ruderalis, growing wild in the Volga River region, Western Siberia and Central Asia. Hillig (2005a/b) recognized C. ruderalis as the putative ancestor (PA) of C. sativa (see Chapter 10). However present-day narrow-leaf hemp (NLH), narrow-leaf ancestor (NLHA) and PA populations overlap in range and traits and there is no clear differentiation between the taxa (Hillig and Mahlberg 2004). Janischevsky's work was part of a large-scale Soviet agricultural research program carried out under the direction of Vavilov during the 1920s and 1930s. Vavilov, with help from a team of experts, conducted an extensive series of expeditions to many continents, collecting information that contributed to identifying and understanding regions of species diversity, which Vavilov argued were the areas of species formation. De Candolle (1967, see above) first used this criterion, although he did not rely so heavily on it, and took a more comprehensive approach in his attempt to determine Cannabis origins, integrating a greater variety of sources than Vavilov.

Based on the work of Janischevsky and others, Vavilov (1949-1951) classified Cannabis as indigenous in three major "centers" of species formation described below. These "centers" we may categorize with hindsight as areas of hybridization induced by relatively intense, directional, artificial selection for desired crop characteristics as well as regions of trade and exchange rather than areas of evolutionary origin. Each of these factors can promote variation within a cultivated species. Under the category of fiber plants, Vavilov placed varieties of"Cannabis sativa"that produce large seeds, which we now consider broad-leaf hemp (BLH) biotypes after Hillig (2005a/b), in his "Chinese Center" of cultivated plants which includes the mountainous regions of central and western China and adjacent lowlands. Under the category of spice plants and stimulants, Vavilov listed"Cannabis indica," which we now consider to be a NLD biotype (Hillig 2005a/b), as originating in the so-called Indian Center, which includes all of the Indian sub-continent except northwestern India, Punjab and the Northwest Frontier (now a part of Pakistan). Finally, under the category of grain crops in his "Central Asiatic Center," Vavilov again listed "Cannabis indica," which we recognize as BLD biotypes, once again after Hillig (2005a/b). This comparatively small area includes northern Pakistan, all of Afghanistan, the Central Asian Republics of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan as well as the western Tian Shan Mountains. We propose that these three centers were more likely areas of early agriculture and selection for specific uses (food, drug and fiber) following the early Holocene dispersal of Cannabis throughout Eurasia.

Although Vavilov's evidence for centers of agricultural crop diversity is convincing, his interpretations of the evidence are not as well accepted (e.g., see Merlin 1972). The use of phenotypic diversity as a key to plant origins has been thoroughly challenged in recent decades. For example, the idea of a "center of origin" might be intellectually satisfying, but it does not always follow as a logical conclusion from an analysis of the data. Although patterns of variation can supply valuable information about the genome of a crop, the question of agricultural and species origins, "is much too complex to be solved by such a simple device, and every scrap of evidence is needed from any source that might be even inferentially pertinent" (Harlan 1971). Phenotypic change upon dispersal away from the area of origin and into an introduced environment is common and has obviously occurred in the case of Cannabis. In addition, evolution, and thus variation, has been greatly accelerated by human selection during domestication.

David Harris (1967) emphasized the significance of crop hybridization with weeds in the evolution of species diversity and argued that a large number of weedy plants "are derivative from, rather than ancestral to, their associated crops, and consequently Vavilov's centers of maximum diversity are not necessarily centers of primary domestication." Edgar Anderson (1967) in his informative book exploring the antiquity of the ongoing important relationship between humans and plants suggested that Vavilov's areas of greater variability are places where flora previously separated came together and hybridized. Indeed the continued existence of primitive varieties of cultivated plants among traditional peoples, often found in remote areas (such as regions of temperate Eurasia where spontaneously growing Cannabis is found today), is probably a result of the basic conservatism of these isolated peoples. Thus Vavilov's ancient centers of species formation may very well be centers of early human cultural and agricultural survival rather than centers of origin. Actually, Vavilov (1931) suggested this possibility when he discussed the origin and distribution of Cannabis in Central Asia. At first, he asserted that Cannabis was most likely one of the few indigenous crops of the area:

"The autochthonic [indigenous] crops of Central Asia are few, but still such ones may be found. Of the field crops the first to be mentioned is hemp. All over [the] northern Tian Shan [Mountains], on its slopes, in the valleys to the north of it, wild growing hemp is of common occurrence. The waste lots of the town of Yarkand in Xinjiang province Chinaare covered with thick stands of hemp. It grows on the ridges of fields, not infrequently forming broad borders along the roads. In ravines, on forest skirts, on marshy ground, on waste land near the villages - weed hemp is the commonest of plants."

But then Vavilov reevaluated this assumption in the very same paperand noted that there is also good reason to believe that hemp is not endemic to Central Asia:

"We admit that the introduction of hemp, as of a wild growing plant characterized by a vast area stretching from the southeast of European USSR to the Pacific, has taken place simultaneously, as well as at different times, in different regions. It may as well have taken place in the agricultural districts of Central Asia."

The former Harvard University economic botanist Oakes Ames (1939) referred to scholars of his time who generally believed Cannabis "to be indigenous to the temperate parts of Asia near the Caspian sea, southern Siberia, the Kirghiz Desert and Persia." Ames' student, Richard Evans Schultes, who eventually took Ames' position at Harvard, stated that Cannabis is "...one of the most ancient of cultivated plants [and] is native probably to Central Asia" (Schultes 1969a/b).

Even though the arguments for hemp being endemic to Central Asia are not conclusive and, in fact, the origin and first use of C. sativa and C. indica may have occurred elsewhere, we suggest, with the same cautious reserve as Vavilov, that its natural origin was probably in Central Asia, possibly in the upland valleys of the Tian Shan or Altai Mountains and that very early, if not the first, cultural applications of Cannabis took place in this same general area during the Pleistocene. If Cannabis originated in Central Asia, it would have been ideally situated for migration east into eastern Asia and west into Europe as Pleistocene ice sheets advanced (see Chapter 11).

Cannabis and Vitis

Here it is relevant to briefly review the biological evolution and domestication of common grapevine (Vitis vinifera L.) which was derived from the wild grapevine (Vitis vinifera subsp. silvestris). Evolution of this useful plant, under the processes of domestication, provides us with a model which has strong parallels to that of Cannabis. Vitis is similar to Cannabis in many respects, including its biology, reproduction, geographical origins and human influences that include long-distance seed dispersal followed by localized distribution of select individuals via asexual propagation. The grapevine is much farther down the vegetative domestication path than Cannabis, and therefore an understanding of grapevine history and its interaction with humans may help us predict the future of Cannabis evolution.

Vitis vinifera is the only member of the grape genus indigenous to Eurasia, possibly originating in the Near East (e.g., see Myles et al. 2010), with evolutionary origins dating back to around 65 million years ago (This et al. 2006). Following the last glacial maximum (LGM) about 18,000 years ago, grape populations began spreading northward from the Italian Peninsula and also westward from the Caucasus, resulting in some admixture in central Europe (Grassi et al. 2008). Presently, the truly wild form, V. vinifera subsp. silvestris, is relatively rare. It is occasionally found in environments from sea level up to 1000 meters (about 3300 feet) in elevation all the way from the southern Atlantic coast of Europe to the western Himalayas, and from Portugal in the west to Turkmenistan in the east, and the Rhine River valley in the north to Tunisia in the south, it grows as a vine on the surrounding tree canopy (This et al. 2006). The common, domesticated grapevine is one of the oldest fruit crops; it is cultivated extensively worldwide and is of great economic importance in its use for table fruit, raisins, sweet preserves, juice and wine. Its domestication, occurring between 9000 to 7500 years ago in the Near East, with the earliest archaeological evidence for this in northern Iran, Georgia and Turkey, was coincident with discovery of wine (This et al. 2006, also see McGovern 2003). Domestication brought many changes to grape's agronomic traits including greater fruit yield and sugar content. Truly wild grapevines are dioecious and wind-pollinated with bird mediated dispersal (similar to Cannabis) while domesticated grapevines are self-pollinating hermaphrodites (Grassi et al. 2008). How did this change come about?

Selection for higher yield, more sugar content and determinant maturation resulted in changes in berry color, berry and bunch size as well as a crucial change from dioecious to hermaphrodite sexuality; this eliminated the need to maintain male plants as pollinators and allowed the self fertilizing of mutant phenotypes. By 5500 to 5000 years ago early domesticates were spread by humans to Egypt and Lower Mesopotamia, followed by dispersal into several Mediterranean cultural realms, especially the Roman Empire, eventually reaching as far as China and Japan by 200 CE. In the process, humans shaped the diversity of grape cultivars extant today. Long-range transport was facilitated by seeds, new cultivars arose from sexual crosses between seedlings, and unique offspring with favorable characteristics were multiplied asexually, producing populations of identical clones (This et al. 2006). The domestication process presently followed in indoor drug Cannabis production is much the same-sexual crossing of pollen and seed parents to produce genetically diverse seeds which are transported to new environments, sown and grown with only a few select female plants reproduced asexually through rooted cuttings, thereby fixing the selected traits and allowing no further evolution.

As a result of centuries of exchange of genetic material (seeds and cuttings), it is difficult to determine the original home of widespread domesticated plants such as grape and hemp. Wild-growing grape populations are documented from many regions of Europe, but it is often unclear if they are truly undomesticated silvestris rather than vinifera cultivars growing as feral escapes from cultivation or possibly hybrids resulting from crosses between wild and cultivated plants (This et al. 2006). This situation must also be rectified in Cannabis before its evolutionary pathways can be deciphered. Are there any truly wild progenitor populations of Cannabis extant today?

Theories for South Asian origin of domesticated Cannabis

South Asia also presents another possible location for the origin and/or early domestication of Cannabis. Used in preparation of a ritual drink known as bhang, Cannabis was referred to in the ancient Indian Atharva Veda or "Science of Charms" (written sometime between 4000 and 3400 BP) as one of the "five kingdoms of herbs....which release us from anxiety" (Abel 1980, see also Booth 2003 and Chapter 6). Carolus Linnaeus (Carl von Linné), the "Father of Taxonomy," who first used the Latin binomial Cannabis sativa believed it to be native to India although he never collected or categorized specimens from this area. The great diversity of Cannabis varieties and usages in northern India and Nepal along the foothills of the Himalayas may indicate that this region was one of the first areas where Cannabis was extensively utilized, most likely for mind-altering purposes.

Sharma (1979, 1980) used phenotypic diversity as a major criterion in his conclusion that Cannabis originated in the valleys along the southern slope of the Himalayan Mountains from Kashmir through Nepal and Bhutan to Burma. He noted that wild (or nearly wild) populations occur in relatively unpopulated areas throughout the Himalayan region, and that significant variation can be measured between glandular trichome characteristics and epidermal (leaf surface) patterns of populations from differing climates. He did not, however, offer evidence that leaf surface traits are sufficient taxonomic criteria to determine races of Cannabis. Furthermore, like Vavilov, Sharma assumed that an area with the greatest diversity within a species is also the area in which the natural origin of the species occurred, rather than recognizing that such variation may be derivative instead of ancestral. In other words, if Cannabis was introduced to the southern slopes of the Himalayan Mountain range and then intensively cultivated, the evolution of many varieties through artificial selection and hybridization by humans, in conjunction with substantial ecological variation along steep elevation gradients, may have occurred subsequent to its introduction. In addition, it should be remembered that perceptions of significant variation are often subjective. Whether it was Vavilov or Sharma who observed the "most" variation in spontaneously growing populations they investigated (in Central Asia and the Himalayan foothills respectively) is impossible to determine by studying their reports, and neither traveled in the study area of the other.

Although we have argued that Cannabis evolved naturally in Central Asia, if Cannabis did originate in northern South Asia, it most likely would have evolved along or relatively near streams in the Himalayan foothills. According to our Holocene dispersal scenario Cannabis arrived in this region early on as it expanded westward from the Hengduan Mountains and Yungui Plateau in southwestern China. Much later, traders could have carried Cannabis west to the Middle East. NLD varietieseventually spread westward by sea traders to the east coast of Africa and eastward through Burma into Southeast Asia. Following this scenario further, NLH would have evolved at higher latitudes from South Asian NLD varieties and spread farther north into southern Russia and then west into Europe. Some varieties could have migrated so far north that the summer season was too short to produce psychoactive levels of THC and evolved into fiber or seed varieties under human selection. Under this scenario, the PA, C. ruderalis, collected during the 20thcentury, in turn, would likely have evolved from C. sativa as this species spread farther north into the Central Asian region formerly known as Turkistan. However, there is little evidence to support this scenario and several reasons to doubt it.

The massive Himalayan and Hindu Kush Mountains, which have proven such a mighty barrier to plant and animal dispersals (including humans), lie between the origin regions proposed by Vavilov and Sharma. No examples of crop plant co-origin both north and south of the Himalaya and Hindu Kush Mountains have yet been reported (Simmonds 1976, Smartt and Simmonds 1995). In addition, genetic data does not reveal any links between South Asian NLD and European NLH populations except those resulting from more recent hybridization influenced by cultivation and breeding (Hillig 2005a/b). Although Cannabis now grows spontaneously throughout Eurasia, but not necessarily as a native plant, it seems unlikely to us that the genus originated both north and south of these mountain ranges. However, human migrations spread Cannabis throughout the Himalaya and Hindu Kush Mountains early in prehistory, probably starting sometime after the beginning of the Holocene, but possibly much earlier as anatomically modern humans (AMHs) first began their advance across Eurasia.

Models of early use and domestication (see Chapter 2), archaeological data (see Chapter 3) and historical records (see Chapters 4 through 8), in conjunction with evolutionary studies involving reproductive strategies and geography (see Chapter 11), lead us to conclude that Cannabis originated somewhere in Central Asia, rather than South or East Asia, although these regions may have served as glacial refugia where speciation occurred. China and India were both regions of early Cannabis evolution under domestication and foci for later diffusion, resulting in the broad diversity of phenotypes selected for various uses appearing across both East and South Asia. In the following discussion we evaluate the, at times, seemingly contradictory data and opinions in a temporal framework, then rectify many of the discrepancies and propose a hypothetical model for the early evolution of Cannabis.

Model for the early evolution of Cannabis

How long ago did Cannabis originate, and when did AMHs begin their association with these useful plants? We know that the earliest angiosperms (flowering plants) probably evolved more than 140 million years ago (e.g., see Soltis et al. 2008); early humans appear to have evolved into Homo sapiens in Africa about 200,000 years ago (e.g., University of Utah 2005, McDougall et al. 2005), and AMHs began extensively colonizing the Middle East during the Upper Paleolithic about 45,000 to 40,000 years ago reaching the steppes of Central Asia and highland southern East Asia by about 35,000 years ago (Wells 2002, Finlayson 2005). Migrations then radiated outward reaching Europe and South Asia by about 30,000 years ago and northeastern Asia by around 15,000 to 20,000 years ago (Meltzer 2009, Kunzig 2004, also see Wells 2002). The ice age of the LGM reached its peak about 21,000 to 18,000 years ago (Soffer and Gamble 1990, Otto-Bliesner et al. 2006) and the warming Holocene epoch began about 12,000 years ago (Roberts 1998). Early farming commenced relatively soon after the end of the Pleistocene and spread widely from a series of centers in the Old and New Worlds (Bellwood 2005). The timing and location of the earliest cultivation of Cannabis, as with most plants, may never be completely ascertained, and although we do not have archaeological evidence for very early cultivation of Cannabis in Central Asia (probably due to the lack of sufficient research in that general region), we do know that hemp was planted quite early on in China and most likely much later in Europe (see Chapter 3 for a full discussion of cultural spread and early farming of Cannabis, and Chapter 11 for a detailed look at climate change and glacial refugia).

When and where along this continuum did (1) family Cannabaceae appear, (2) Cannabis and Humulus diverge and (3) Cannabis' species evolve? When was the natural evolution of Cannabis first affected by human contact? How did the various subspecies, biotypes and ecotypes evolve? Answering these questions will allow us to advance our hypothesis for the early evolution of Cannabis. In the absence of pre-Holocene Cannabis seeds, limited ancient pollen (which may be hard to identify with certainty, see Chapter 3)and without fossils of a clearly identified Cannabis progenitor, it is difficult to determine with any accuracy when Cannabis evolved into the biotypes we see today. The survey of reproductive strategies presented above indicates that Cannabis, an herbaceous, sun-loving, short-day flowering annual, most likely evolved somewhere in temperate latitudes of the northern hemisphere, and data from published research favors Eurasia, especially Central Asia, as its region of origin. Future DNA research and additional forms of molecular genetic investigation may help to more accurately determine the original home of Cannabis.

In the meantime, a review of evidence for the origin and prehistoric dispersal of Cannabis offered by the disciplines of palaeoclimatology, archaeology and taxonomy supports our model for the evolution of Cannabis. During the last interglacial period (approximately 135,000 to 110,000 years ago) the northern hemisphere, including the vast region of Eurasia, was relatively warm and humid; it is somewhere within this huge area that the ancestors of modern Cannabis and Humulus would have found environmental niches suitable for their evolution and proliferation. Around 50,000 years ago, AMHs began migrations northward out of Africa into middle Eurasia where their populations thrived and multiplied, eventually spreading both west and east to occupy vast areas of the earth's landmass (Kunzig 2004). This middle Eurasian cauldron of human evolutionary and cultural change lay within the natural range of Cannabis, and Pleistocene early humans would have been attracted to its readily apparent attributes.

Our assertion that Central Asia was both the original Pleistocene home and center for evolution and dispersal of Cannabis within the past 50,000 years is supported by our reconstruction of the climatic conditions across Eurasia during past geological periods. In order to further explore the human-Cannabis relationship, it is also important to determine in which regions early people may have lived nearby Cannabis populations. This can be ascertained by present-day human genome analysis combined with palaeoclimate reconstructions. Adams and Faure (1998), in their survey of plant and animal remains from various time periods and geographical locations, made correlations with the environmental requirements of extant species' relatives and produced a map series of reconstructed world vegetation. Gepts (2004) listed Cannabis as originating in the temperate steppes biome. Possible habitats conducive to the growth and spread of Cannabis during the early Holocene are based on ranges of vegetation zones supporting feral growth today. These coincide with three palaeoenvironmental classifications: (1) cool, temperate, deciduous broad-leaved and coniferous forests with a fairly open canopy, (2) semi-arid temperate woodland or scrub and (3) herbaceous forest steppe with clumps of trees in favorable locations. These vegetation zones existed at each time period reconstructed by Adams and Faure, but their ranges shifted between different time periods and they occurred in different geographical regions than today.

Archaeological sites provide physical evidence that bands of hunter-gatherers were living in these regions during the Upper Paleolithic (50,000 to 10,000 BP) many millennia before the LGM (e.g., see Madeyska 1990). As climate cooled leading up to the LGM and early humans migrated southward, they could have taken Cannabis seeds with them. After PA populations migrated southward and diverged geographically, two populations may have survived in two separate isolated locations and evolved into two new species-in temperate foothills of southern and southeastern European mountain ranges the putative hemp ancestor (PHA) and progenitor of modern C. sativa and in temperate mountain valleys of southern East Asia the putative drug ancestor (PDA) the progenitor of modern C. indica. After several millennia, as northern latitudes began to warm and the Holocene commenced, early humans could have returned northward carrying the progenitors of modern Cannabis taxa across much of Eurasia from their twin origins. Following the LGM, and throughout the early Holocene, the Magdalenian and Gravettian cultural complexes of central Europe expanded to the northeast onto the northern European plains and into the steppe regions of Eastern Europe, while the Solutrean cultural complex spread across Mediterranean southern Europe to the Black Sea (Bar-Yosef 1990). By this time, Paleolithic cultures were well distributed across modern-day China, Korea and Japan, and early Huang He and then Yangzi River farming cultures soon began to radiate across East Asia (Chen and Olsen 1990, also see Xue et al. 2006).

However, the divergence of C. sativa and C. indica likely occurred during much earlier glaciations and AMHs encountered Cannabis much later as it began to spread from its most recent refugia following the LGM. Speciation occurred during an earlier glacial period when advancing ice sheets pushed ancestral populations of plants and animals into more southerly refugia, C. sativa evolving in refugia in southeastern Europe and C. indica in southern East Asia, where their respective ranges were likely reduced in subsequent glacial periods leading up to the LGM. If the PA (C. ruderalis) exists today it must have survived at low population density in cryptic refugia at more northern latitudes than C. sativa or C. indica. During interglacial warming, Cannabis populations evolved naturally as they expanded northward recolonizing niches for which they were pre-adapted, only to be restricted to temperate refugia during a subsequent glacial cold period. During the LGM, European C. sativa NLH populations likely found refuge in the foothills of the Caucasus Mountains and on the Balkan Peninsula while Asian C. indica ssp. chinensis (broad-leaf hemp or BLH) populations survived within the Hengduan Mountain-Yungui Plateau region of present-day southwestern China and possibly also in coastal northeastern China, Korea and Japan; C. indica ssp. indica NLD populations may have survived in the Hengduan Mountain-Yungui Plateau region or along the Himalayan foothills, while C. indica ssp. afghanica BLD populations evolved in the foothills of the Hindu Kush Mountains. It is unlikely that any Cannabis populations survived the LGM outside of refugia, which may have been more in number than we can presently identify. After the LGM, Cannabis populations expanded once again, and their dispersal and introduction into newly disturbed niches was often aided by humans migrating from their temperate refugia. During rapid migration into new niches, the Cannabis genome narrowed from founder effects. It then diversified by ecological adaptation to each new niche. Meanwhile, populations remaining within upland refugia with varying topography likely remained genetically diverse due to individual adaption to differing microclimates within a small geographical range. Variation extant today at the subspecies and biotype levels results from relatively recent post-LGM expansion with human assistance and building upon a much more ancient evolutionary foundation. Human imposed geographical isolation and selection have proved sufficient to preserve species integrity while increasing biotype diversity.

Putative progenitor populations (PA, PHA and PDA) are the "missing links" in our model of early evolution and are very likely extinct. Due to the high probability of intercrossing with neighboring feral or cultivated populations in more recent times, it is unlikely that any genetically pure ancestral populations survive today even in remote regions of Central Asia. It is even more unlikely that there would be any relict populations remaining in the regions where the hypothetical progenitor populations of hemp and drug Cannabis (PHA and PDA) originated, as Cannabis has been cultivated for at least two millennia across Europe and much longer in East Asia (see Chapters 3 through 8). If specimens tentatively identified by Hillig (2005a/b) and others as C. ruderalis do not represent relict populations of the original PA, then how did they arise and how do they differ genetically from other extant taxa? It seems likely to us that Central Asian populations studied during the 20th century and perceived as putative ancestors were products of mixed heritage (PA introgressed with NLHA and NLH) combined with lack of human selection and ecological adaptation to marginal environments. Without human selection, Cannabis has a tendency to revert to atavistic (ancient ancestral) genetic combinations quite rapidly and atavistic traits would be expressed frequently, especially when populations are genetically isolated and subjected to increased inbreeding. Naturally growing and seemingly wild populations that could be interpreted as descendants of putative ancestors have also been observed in Kashmir (Watson personal communication 1978) as well as Shandong and Yunnan provinces in China, lowland Nepal and northeastern India (Clarke personal observations 1993, 1995, 2006, 2009 respectively).

By 8000 years ago, large tracts of northern Eurasia had a suitable temperate climate for supporting climax broad-leaf and coniferous woodland vegetation cover and allowing Cannabis to proliferate. We assume that humans spread Cannabis easily via their hunting and gathering activities and eventually introduced it into their new agricultural settlements where and when these became established during the Holocene. Responding to a constantly changing natural environment and early unconscious human selective pressures, the NLH ancestor (NLHA) slowly evolved through intermediate populations into the C. sativa interbreeding complex (NLHA-NLH) extant today in Europe and Western Asia. Uniformity of surrounding climate and vegetation and restricted latitudinal spread within a relatively homogenous cultural setting, may account for lack of genetic diversity within C. sativa. The present-day range of C. sativa NLH includes Europe and North America, yet is relatively small in comparison to the world-wide ranges of C. indica biotypes BLH, BLD and NLD (see Table of Acronyms).

In response to entirely different sets of natural and human selective pressures, PDAs also adapted and evolved as they migrated into regions that were both climatically and culturally diverse, became isolated and were exposed to a far wider range of selective pressures than PHAs. In response, C. indica evolved into three biotypes or subspecies. BLH landraces likely evolved in China very early on, in close association with the expansion of Chinese agriculture, and relatively soon spread to Korea and Japan where additional BLH populations may already have been growing if they survived the LGM; escaped feral populations can presently be found in several regions across China, Korea and on Hokkaido Island, Japan. Although the closest relatives of BLH are the highly psychoactive BLD and NLD biotypes, East Asian hemp varieties are relatively low in THC. Since there was little traditional psychoactive use following the rise of Confucianism, BLH landraces were only rarely selected for drug content in the past two millennia. BLD varieties evolved under extremely arid conditions in an isolated mountain range within present-day Afghanistan, were eventually used for producing hashish and are the most morphologically distinct of the Cannabis taxa (see Chapter 10). NLD biotypes are also high in drug content. Along the Himalayan foothills in northern South Asia NLDA populations introgress with NLD cultivars to form an interbreeding NLDA-NLD complex similar to that of the NLHA-NLH complex of Europe and western Asia. According to our taxonomy (following Hillig 2004a/b, 2005a/b), C. indica cultivars are the most geographically widespread and most widely utilized biotypes today, growing on all continents and used for recreational and medicinal drugs as well as fiber and seed production while C. sativa cultivars are presently grown only for fiber and seed on limited acreage in Europe and North America.

Summary and conclusions

Glacial ice sheets advanced and retreated many times during the earth's history, and species have either moved or perished as they advanced; survivors recolonizing their previous homelands as the climate warmed and glaciers retreated. During Quaternary glaciations Cannabis'range would have been highly restricted to two or more isolated refugia (located in distant parts of southern Eurasia or possibly within smaller cryptic refugia at more northern latitudes) with climatic conditions similar to those favored by Cannabis today. Isolation of populations during times of glacial advance could have led to speciation within genus Cannabis. There were several series of Quaternary glaciations during the past two million years as well as many Tertiary glaciations before them, and Cannabis would have moved southward during times of cold and back northward during warm periods several times during its evolution; adaptive radiation during the Holocene is only the most recent cycle of expansion. Today, possible refugia are represented by favorable microclimates where Cannabis survived to later disperse and re-enlarge its range. It is more difficult to determine both areas of origin or endemism and potential refugia in organisms such as Cannabis with widespread ecological ranges and partial fossil records, and even more difficult to determine in plants with ancient human relationships.

Feral Cannabis populations are found today growing in temperate climates at northern latitudes. These are usually characterized as warm continental regions with spring and early summer rains, followed by a dry cool autumn and accompanied by the widely fluctuating day length (photoperiod) afforded by more northern latitudes; indeed, feral Cannabis only flourishes in this narrow climate niche. The vegetation cover most favorable for Cannabis is temperate-climate upland open woodland growing in valleys with alluvial soil deposits and slopes for drainage with sufficient sunlight and summer rainfall. Suitable regions would have had moist temperate conditions during glaciations without being so near the equator as to lose short-day flowering response and cold hardiness. Humans created many favorable open habitats, but Cannabis thrived in more or less these same conditions long before we entered the scene.

Equally important in determining Cannabis'prehistoric range are the conditions itdoes not tolerate such as extreme heat, cold, aridity or humidity, heavy or waterlogged soils and permafrost. Many presently warm and humid tropical equatorial regions were arid deserts during the LGM. In addition, Cannabis could not survive too much humidity; today Cannabis does not become feral in subtropical monsoon regions. During glacial periods Cannabis'range would not have included semi-tropical and tropical regions as this is not where natural wild or feral Cannabis populationsflourish today. Mediterranean climates with cool wet winters and hot dry summers are also not conducive to the natural growth of Cannabis because it requires summer rain. Some Cannabis populations became extinct while some survived in suitable microclimates providing additional chances for isolated populations to evolve independently within their refugial ranges. Topography within large southern montane refugia is complex and local microclimates abound. Each river valley offered isolation from neighboring populations and a unique suite of selective pressures, an ideal setting for genetic divergence and speciation. Several regions of ancient Eurasia presented likely locations for Pleistocene Cannabis refugia. We propose that such favorable LGM refugia for C. sativa could have existed within the Caucasus Mountains with another for C. indica in the Hengduan Mountains and Yungui Plateau and possibly also along the Himalayan foothills as well as on the Shandong and Korean Peninsulas and the Japan Archipelago.

Most plant species have very limited distributions, so why and how has Cannabis become so widespread and abundant? Animals including humans are more mobile than plants and can migrate away from advancing ice sheets. Plant populations are much more sedentary moving no farther spatially than their propagules. During glacial advances plant populations do not move so much as just die off as the climate becomes less favorable and their range becomes more restricted. During times of glacial advance, ice sheets would expand southwards encroaching upon the expanded range of Cannabis. In populations adapting to changes nearest the ice sheets, female plants would drop their seeds nearby at the end of the season, but male plants could spread their adaptive success via windblown pollen deep into the extant population. It is only during interglacial warming that Cannabis would have expanded from its reduced refugial range. Today Cannabis is widely distributed around the world largely as a consequence of the human-Cannabis relationship but may also have been endemic in several regions of Eurasia prior to human contact. Some plants are aided in long distance transport of their seed by migrating birds and hoofed mammals, which also could have played a part in Cannabis'earlydistributional changes although humans have certainly had the greatest effect since the Holocene began. However, because Cannabis seed is not regularly disseminated by animal, water or wind vectors and most seeds remain near the seed plant, the post-glacial range of Cannabis would have expanded much more slowly without the assistance of humans.

Cannabis likely originated millions of years ago in northern Eurasia andmoved ahead of climate changes, migrating (likely without human assistance) southward during glaciations to escape unfavorable conditions. During a glacial maximum, Cannabis populations were forced into refugia in southern Europe and southwestern East Asia, possibly leading to speciation events giving rise to European C. sativa and Asian C. indica. During this time, C. indica evolved enhanced biosynthetic capacity to produce THC. Early humans utilized both C. sativa and C. indica for fiber and seed, but only C. indica has a history of drug use. Cannabis thrived during the early Holocene as the earth warmed, and with human assistance its range expanded around the world. Range expansion continues, although genetic diversity has decreased, also as a result of human influence. Self-sowing feral Cannabis presently occupies a restricted ecological belt extending around the world.

Cannabis' annual life cycle and its ecological requirements for open environments, ample water and well-drained soils favor origin in moist riverside environments. Studies of the reproductive strategies of Cannabis indicate probable evolution in northern temperate latitudes. Early researchers such as de Candolle (1967, originally published in 1882) and Vavilov (1931) favored Central Asia as the likely region of origin, in which case, Cannabis was advantageously positioned for dispersal throughout Europe, southern Asia and the Far East. More recent studies indicate that if primordial Cannabis naturally evolved in Central Asia prior to contact with humans, it must have moved to warmer, more southern latitudes several times before, and again during, the LGM, possibly carried by early human migrants and then was redistributed throughout Eurasia by humans migrating northward as climate warmed during the Holocene. Cannabis was pre-adapted for successful growth upon its return from southern refugia as it originated farther north many millennia earlier.Present-day C. ruderalis,the putative ancestor of extant Cannabis taxa, grows throughout Central Asia and most likely represents a degenerate, inbred and unselected hybrid blend of various Cannabis gene pools that survived as feral escapes, rather than direct descendants of the now long extinct ancestral population in its original home.

Here's some info from R.C. Clarke:


You've done a bit of research on the origins of cannabis. Is the difference between indica and sativa as simple as thin and fat leaves?

RCC - There is some new genetic based work by Karl Hillig at Indiana University, trying to work out the taxonomy of Cannabis. The main thing, is that all that Cannabis Sativa really should represent, is the narrow leaf hemp varieties from Western Europe which spread to a few other places like Chile and possibly New Mexico, and everything else should be called Cannabis Indica. I’m now using this new system - until some taxonomist changes it again!

What changed the system?

RCC - Looking at the direct gene products of cannabis. The gene technology as well as looking at cannabinoid data, THC, terpene data and other plants.

So are we smoking any Sativa at all these days?

RCC - Actually we don’t smoke sativas, it is all indicas. All the rest of the world’s hemp, drug, medical, seed and other varieties should most likely be called the indica variety. There are four different subgroups of indica that are now recognised. Cannabis Indica Biotype Afghanica is what we call Indica now. Cannabis Indica Biotype Chinensis is broad-leafed hemp from China, Japan & Korea. Cannabis Indica Spontania is from North India, Nepali, Burma. These were called the drug sativas but are now better called Cannabis Indica Indica. Cannabis Indica Caferus Anacus may represent the wild “feral” types that the other domesticated subgroups came from.

To make it easier we should just go back to what they look like. Let’s forget about where they come from. We should call what we think of as hemp from Europe, as Narrow leafed hemp. The other hemp is Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Northern Vietnam. These are broad-leafed hemp. They are not as low in THC or as high in CBD (cannabidiol) as the European ones but they are not drugs. And then you have the two drug cannabis gene pools which would be narrow leafed drug high THC varieties - Indian , Nepali, Thai, Indonesian, African, Mexican and Columbian, with narrow leafs and high THC . Afghan varieties which are now called Indica, erroneously, should be called Broad leafed drug varieties . Now of course we have hybrids of narrow and brood leafed but no hybrids of Sativa, the narrow leafed hemp. So actually the only true Indica-Sativa hybrids are hemp, and what people smoke are all Indicas.

I'll add both, I especially, are acting like children
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Its THC content is really low, so I don't think it's worth it. I do know it's useful in crossbreeding for reasons other than psychoactivity.

But what about CBD?

Also, can you guys stop saying "stains" instead of "strains"? Thanks.
 
Such a boring read, but full of interesting info thanks for the post.

"Present-day C. ruderalis,the putative ancestor of extant Cannabis taxa, grows throughout Central Asia and most likely represents a degenerate, inbred and unselected hybrid blend of various Cannabis gene pools that survived as feral escapes, rather than direct descendants of the now long extinct ancestral population in its original home."

This is my point though. Ruderalis is a strain just as indica and sativa, but it probably isn't an original strain on one end of the spectrum of development like those two above and is probably a center point between the two species that developed.

Also yes we are both acting like children arguing something as petty as this when I'm sure we both can be doing better things with our time. Also I have to swype type sorry for my typos and word mix ups.
 
Hi, I believe you are under the impression that ruderalis is an autoflowering type of ditch weed you currently find in Russia and that that is what autoflowering strains like Lowryder are bred from. What I am trying to say is that is not the case.

It is a theoretical putative ancestor of domsticated cannabis. Aka what is known as a 'primitive biotype possibly umodified by human selection and domestication'.

See this -

"However, what we today classify tentatively as the PA might more correctly be viewed as an unselected, degenerate multihybrid between various escapes from cultivation. It is unlikely that c. ruderalis could have maintained its genomic integrity during the domestication process, for example if domesticatoin occured within the natural range of c. ruderalis, windblown pollen would have facilitated the introgression of genes back into the truly wild c. ruderalis gene pool from the selected semidomesticates. Plants that appear to be c. ruderalis may be more accurately described as primordial examples of c. sativa ssp. spontanea, the NLHA. or C. indica ssp. kafiristanica, the NLDA with a higher frequency of predomestication gene combinations and a lower frequency of predomestication gene combinations. Gimore et. al. (2007) felt there was insufficient genetic evidence to support c. ruderalis as a separate taxon and that the 'wild' accessions more likely represent feral european hemp. We suggest that backrossing to ancestral populations was common and the existance of genetically distinct PA populations is unlikely. C. ruderalis may have been a valid taxon in the distant past, but it may be impossible to find accessions that have remained truly isolated from human intervention.
 
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