Hey guys,
So in another thread there was discussion of microdosing ibogaine or ibogaine containing materials while on opiates. Not many have tried it from what I’ve seen and the few reports I do find mostly pertain to kratom.
At the moment I’m taking about 1.25mg Suboxone and tapering down on the benzoylmorphine I was using (yesterday using about 50mg total).
Yesterday I consumed what I believe was 6-7mg of supposed TA extract claimed to be roughly 50% Ibogaine and rest being related alkaloids. This was obtained roughly 8yrs who from a reputable vendor in a country which allows ibogaine.
The taste was bitter alkaloidal but unique, kinda reminded me of purified kratom alkaloids in taste.
Here are my notes for the first couple of hours until mostly my anxiety wore off..
11:20am- 6-7mg eaten, strong bitter taste.
11:23- Placebo maybe but I feel a sharpness take over my mind along with a change in visual perception.
1:00- Light yet noticeable effects, mostly positive. Feeling a little spacey, not sure if it’s from lack of drugs (opiates, otc pain meds, etc) or not though.
3:15- Spacey feeling has worn off a bit, grocery shopping was pleasant interacting with those around me.
I stopped after that because quite frankly I was pretty in the zone and very shocked at the intensity of the experience at this dosage. My impression is that this drug has quite a metamorphosis as the dosage increases.
The best way I can describe this feeling is “ideological.” As soon as it came on I got this strong presence of mind to not use any opiates despite the pain I was in. I didn’t allow any of the head games manifest that typically lead to another bigger than necessary dose. (Tapering doesn’t work well when you constantly do that of course lol.)
There was a very strong anti-depressant quality which I attribute to the NMDA antagonistic effect as well as sigma receptors. Normally I’m a quiet introvert when I go out but I was chatting people up, smiling, feeling like I was 20yrs old againand world hadn’t yet taken a big giant dump right on my head yet..
The visual component was a little strong too. I’d compare it to 1/8-1/4 a strong quality dose of LSD.
It wasn’t terribly stimulating like I was expecting though and I actually got quite tired when lately I’ve been needing to use melatonin to get down at night.
Throughout the night was interesting, back to that ideological aspect, I spent the night in this half awake half askeeep stage going over future goals and how to accomplish them. At one point I got up to piss and my CEV were African patterns and designs.
Even now 21hrs later do I still feel a medium level effect.
All I can say is wow... I have so much respect for this medicine already. I’m not one to have a low psychedelic tolerance either... If this is what 6-7mg does I’m excited to try a much larger dose once I’m off opiates.
With that said, I did notice a marked reduction in my need for opiates as well as a potentiation of the opiates I did take. I’ll likely refrain from using it today but this thread will serve as my journal on using microdoses to quit the full agonist opiates I’m using and at least get back down to just 1mg Suboxone a day. (If I go further than that though, I’ll be happy.)
I also feel Ibogaine TA at this dosage would be amazing in a festival setting as is or in conjunction with other substances. My music appreciation and ability to dance was majorly enhanced.
All for now but will update as I eat more.
-GC
So in another thread there was discussion of microdosing ibogaine or ibogaine containing materials while on opiates. Not many have tried it from what I’ve seen and the few reports I do find mostly pertain to kratom.
At the moment I’m taking about 1.25mg Suboxone and tapering down on the benzoylmorphine I was using (yesterday using about 50mg total).
Yesterday I consumed what I believe was 6-7mg of supposed TA extract claimed to be roughly 50% Ibogaine and rest being related alkaloids. This was obtained roughly 8yrs who from a reputable vendor in a country which allows ibogaine.
The taste was bitter alkaloidal but unique, kinda reminded me of purified kratom alkaloids in taste.
Here are my notes for the first couple of hours until mostly my anxiety wore off..
11:20am- 6-7mg eaten, strong bitter taste.
11:23- Placebo maybe but I feel a sharpness take over my mind along with a change in visual perception.
1:00- Light yet noticeable effects, mostly positive. Feeling a little spacey, not sure if it’s from lack of drugs (opiates, otc pain meds, etc) or not though.
3:15- Spacey feeling has worn off a bit, grocery shopping was pleasant interacting with those around me.
I stopped after that because quite frankly I was pretty in the zone and very shocked at the intensity of the experience at this dosage. My impression is that this drug has quite a metamorphosis as the dosage increases.
The best way I can describe this feeling is “ideological.” As soon as it came on I got this strong presence of mind to not use any opiates despite the pain I was in. I didn’t allow any of the head games manifest that typically lead to another bigger than necessary dose. (Tapering doesn’t work well when you constantly do that of course lol.)
There was a very strong anti-depressant quality which I attribute to the NMDA antagonistic effect as well as sigma receptors. Normally I’m a quiet introvert when I go out but I was chatting people up, smiling, feeling like I was 20yrs old againand world hadn’t yet taken a big giant dump right on my head yet..
The visual component was a little strong too. I’d compare it to 1/8-1/4 a strong quality dose of LSD.
It wasn’t terribly stimulating like I was expecting though and I actually got quite tired when lately I’ve been needing to use melatonin to get down at night.
Throughout the night was interesting, back to that ideological aspect, I spent the night in this half awake half askeeep stage going over future goals and how to accomplish them. At one point I got up to piss and my CEV were African patterns and designs.
Even now 21hrs later do I still feel a medium level effect.
All I can say is wow... I have so much respect for this medicine already. I’m not one to have a low psychedelic tolerance either... If this is what 6-7mg does I’m excited to try a much larger dose once I’m off opiates.
With that said, I did notice a marked reduction in my need for opiates as well as a potentiation of the opiates I did take. I’ll likely refrain from using it today but this thread will serve as my journal on using microdoses to quit the full agonist opiates I’m using and at least get back down to just 1mg Suboxone a day. (If I go further than that though, I’ll be happy.)
I also feel Ibogaine TA at this dosage would be amazing in a festival setting as is or in conjunction with other substances. My music appreciation and ability to dance was majorly enhanced.
All for now but will update as I eat more.
-GC