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Fact-checking the claim "Nobody gets addicted to cannabis"

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http://www.politifact.com/florida/s.../john-morgan-says-nobodys-addicted-marijuana/

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High-profile Orlando attorney John Morgan is leading an effort in Florida to legalize medical marijuana, arguing that the drug is safer and cheaper than other painkillers.

As a recent guest on Bay News 9’s Political Connections, Morgan also discussed whether marijuana is addictive.

"Nobody's addicted to it," Morgan claimed.

We decided to fact-check Morgan’s claim based on input from readers. But we didn’t have to dig too far. Morgan told us he was wrong.

"It was a huge mistake," said Morgan. "I’m sorry and embarrassed I messed up."

Morgan said he was "flat out wrong" about marijuana not being addictive and meant to focus on the use of the drug compared to more potent painkillers.

"Some levels of addiction kill you -- marijuana may make you slow, but it will never kill you," said Morgan, a personal injury attorney who is leading the group People United for Medical Marijuana. The group has launched a petition drive to add an amendment to the state’s Constitution to legalize medical marijuana in 2014.

Even though Morgan said he made a mistake, we were curious enough to check a few more sources.

Aaron Norton, a psychotherapist who specializes in addictive disorders, said that "cannabis dependence is a diagnosable disorder."

"Not everyone who uses it becomes addicted," said Norton, but some are more vulnerable, including people with mental disorders, adolescents and young adults.

"In the course of my career, I have probably treated hundreds of patients who are cannabis-dependent, and many of them also met the two diagnostic criteria associated with physiological dependence -- tolerance and withdrawal," Norton said.

Marijuana abuse is recognized as cannabis-use disorder in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. The manual’s list of symptoms include craving; taking larger doses over a longer period of time than intended; recurrent use that results in failure to fulfill major obligations at work, school or home; and tolerance (needing more to get the desired high).

It’s also described as an addictive substance by the government-funded National Institute on Drug Abuse, which writes: "Estimates from research suggest that about 9 percent of users become addicted to marijuana; this number increases among those who start young (to about 17 percent, or 1 in 6) and among daily users (to 25-50 percent)."

Psychiatrist Dr. Darren Rothschild, an addiction medicine specialist, says he’s worked with patients who have developed a serious dependence on marijuana and "the impact is substantial."

"In order to feel normal, they have to have the drug," Rothschild said. "Not everyone who smokes becomes addicted, but it’s erroneous to say it doesn’t happen."

The story continues: http://www.politifact.com/florida/s.../john-morgan-says-nobodys-addicted-marijuana/
 
An amatuer puts his foot in his mouth to local medias delight more muggings and oxycontin at 10 heres tom with sports.
 
Marijuana addiction is like caffeine addiction... it's downplayed by 99% of people, and used as a scare tactic by the other 1%


Opiate/benzo/alcohol withdrawal can literally kill you, but marijuana "withdrawal" will probably just make you unmotivated and keep you up at night
 
Cannabis withdrawal is subjectively similar to withdrawal from cigarettes, imho. (e.g. sweating, irritability, insomnia, upset stomach)

It is real. It is well documented in the medical and scientific literature, and it can be a significant annoyance to a percentage of heavy users.

Is it a reason to keep cannabis illegal? Absolutely not.
 
Marijuana addiction is like caffeine addiction... it's downplayed by 99% of people, and used as a scare tactic by the other 1%


Opiate/benzo/alcohol withdrawal can literally kill you, but marijuana "withdrawal" will probably just make you unmotivated and keep you up at night

Not to be off topic, but opiates do not have mortality in withdrawal... Underlying conditions are always at play...
 
^^thats debatable, there are plenty of deaths from methadone/some from heroin, hard to prove either way, not documented well

IME weed withdrawal is like nicotine withdrawal, a few days of annoyance, and then some cravings.

if youve ever been addicted to heavy opiates or benzos, the symptoms of weed are laughable
 
^^thats debatable, there are plenty of deaths from methadone/some from heroin, hard to prove either way, not documented well

They are too...

Methadone is a high candidate for QT prolongation... Especially at higher doses. Mortality is directly attached to health with opiate withdrawal.

Heroin users that have died were in terrible health while trying to quit...
 
But more on the topic...

Cannabis withdrawal is mostly psychological in effect, and is very benign, but not completely safe depending on ROA.

Why it is still being demonised as hard as acutely toxic drugs is beyond me...
 
Others have said it above, but cannabis addiction is real.
So is caffeine addiction.
I have experienced both. 8o
Hard to say which is more unpleasant, when withdrawing. Both are pretty nasty, compared to someone without withdrawals.
Both are pretty meager, compared to someone withdrawing from benzos.
 
It really depends on your individual body chemistry and genes. But even if you are a marijuana addict it's pretty far down on the lists of things to be concerned about.
 
I smoke weed everyday, I have for almost 5 years now.. I'm an "addict", and as far as addiction goes, it's nothing to be afraid of. It's a drain on my wallet but other than that it's a very easy habit to maintain



It's better than SSRI addiction, look at the awful withdrawal people go through for a drug that's supposed to make them happy. If they would of smoked a gram of weed a day for years and stopped suddenly it would be a breeze, comparatively
 
I smoke weed everyday, I have for almost 5 years now.. I'm an "addict", and as far as addiction goes, it's nothing to be afraid of. It's a drain on my wallet but other than that it's a very easy habit to maintain



It's better than SSRI addiction, look at the awful withdrawal people go through for a drug that's supposed to make them happy. If they would of smoked a gram of weed a day for years and stopped suddenly it would be a breeze, comparatively
idk how old you are but i cant imagine that smoking every day has done wonders for your mental development. do you really believe that taking anti-depressants is in any way comparable to recreational drug use?
 
idk how old you are but i cant imagine that smoking every day has done wonders for your mental development. do you really believe that taking anti-depressants is in any way comparable to recreational drug use?
Well they are both drugs that people use, both with withdrawal symptoms when stopped, whats not to compare?
 
Some anti-depressants are in many cases WORSE than so-called recreational drugs. Venlafaxine, for example, gave me urges to engage in inappropriate and unacceptable sexual behaviors which thankfully I never engaged in but certainly had the urges, so I got scared and I quit, literally cold turkey.

Cannabis never made me feel that way.
 
Other psychiatric drugs are even worse... I was on lithium and then depakote for type 2 bipolar disorder... Both drugs have horrible side effects and aren't nearly as predictable or effective as cannabis is for me.
 
idk how old you are but i cant imagine that smoking every day has done wonders for your mental development. do you really believe that taking anti-depressants is in any way comparable to recreational drug use?

Considering that SSRIs have been shown to cause long-term serotonin downregulation on par with heavy MDMA abuse, yes. I do think there are several comparisons to be made there.
 
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