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End of the Mayan Calendar - 21st December - Being prepared

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WarChild

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Hi Everyone...

You've probably all heard about the end of the Mayan Calendar which occurs on 21st December this year. It was even the subject of a SHIT movie. Anyway... Happily the popular opinion is that it is a spiritual ending and beginning of the age of Aquarius, and the evolution of the human consciousness. I really hope this is the case.

However, MANY believe that it will either BE or be ACCOMPANIED BY a mass disaster of some sort. Years ago it was predicted that might be an electromagnetic burst that would take out all electronic devices, and worryingly the solar activity is rising massively JUST as predicted! Also developing as predicted is a polar reversale where north and south swap over - not as damaging but still a mass event. On top of that are more crazy but frightening predictions, especially the eruption of the volcano in Yellowstone Park - which is LONG overdue to occur and would plunge the GLOBE into darkness, slowly killng almost every living thing through darkness over years. Other things are meteorites (long overdue also for an extinction level meteorite), various extreme weather events, a virus, etc etc.

I've read REAMS and REAMS of material on 2012 and i've been researching it since about 2009 and following it pretty closely. My opinion is that it will be both at once - a new age for humans, but also accompanied by a disaster event to cull our numbers and weed out those who are not spiritually growing and ready for the evolution.

So that means IF we want to survive (and survival probably wont be present) we need to plan for it. So who out there has a plan?

I am also vaguely thinking of starting a group. Looking by way of example at Hurrican Katrina in the states - the event was only part of it. The lack of water, food, and resources in the days and weeks afterwards was even more devastating. It will be SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. The currency will be drinkable water and food, and people will STOP AT NOTHING to get those items.

I have a location in mind to flee to, which i won't divulge as its pretty special - which has unlimited pure drinking water, and guaranteed safety from any events on the surface. I also have a pack at home made up, which contains a book on Australian edible plants, a book on outdoor survival, tools for making fire, a big ass knife, a radio and batteries, food, water, a can opener. Enough to survive with long term.

I'm taking the 21st off work so I can be prepared for anything. I am also co-ordinating with loved ones for the day. But like I said, starting a group that gathers and works together is probably the best way of surviving and being ready for anything.

Does anyone out there in Bluelight land have any interest in this? Opinions? Information? Links to survivalism groups? I'd be surprised if there aren't others around the place thinking in the same way I am. I have a good friend i've emailed tonight and invited who has a rugged 4wd and a gun - two VERY desirable commodities in an apocolyptic event.

Something is happening on the 21st - im convinced - if you look at the accuracy of the mayan calendar - these guys were predicting astrological events to the DAY THOUSANDS of years before they happened. Just crazily accurate. And their stories passed from generation to generation said that it was the END OF DAYS. So it might be that things are gonna get messy. The most technically proficient race in the history of humans is not likely to get this totally wrong.

Lets get prepared. Whos in?


Oh PS if we do this, someone will have to be in charge of stockpiling some good drugs to pass the time.


WarChild
 
This kind of paranoia is farsical. The end of the Mayan 13th Bak'tun signifies one full cycle of our Sun around the Milky Way. It will also be our solar system's perigee to the centre of the galaxy. It corresponds to the Vedic and western astrological systems, as well as 200 different star-based calendars around the world.

It signifies the end of one era and the beginning of the other, not the apocalypse. More spiritually, it represents the coming change in consciousness of humanity, as the old paradigm dies out and a new epoch begins. Western astrology's take on this is that we are entering into the Aquarian Age and leaving the Age of Pisces. Pisces governs spirituality but also dogmatic fanaticism, and it lasted a couple thousand years. Aquarius governs social justice, high level philosophy, education (think knowing a bit of everything), as well as esoteric and lost forms of knowledge being revealed. The age we're entering is the age of truth.

Also, Pluto is in Capricorn and will remain there for 22 years. Pluto is the planet of radical change, transformation, and even chaotic upheavals. It always brings renewal and the deepest level transformations -- it also governs intensity. Capricorn represents the established order, rules, hierarchy, tradition, etc. Basically, as Pluto transits through Capricorn, it is causing global chaos as the new order starts to grow and clash against the old. (See: all the rebellions happening in the Mid East, economic collapse in the west, etc.)

In the Vedic calendar we are currently in the Kali Yuga, or the Age of the Machine. It is the most degenerate in the cycle. It is when humans are most detached from spirit and the most reliant on the material. In Shiva temples around the world, Shiva's vehicle, the cow, is portrayed as having one leg. Each leg represents one of the four Yugas. When the cow is standing on all four legs, humanity is in its Golden Age. The last leg represents the Kali Yuga and the end of the degenerate cycle. Basically, when the last leg is knocked out, Shiva will come destroy/renew/remake the world.

The end of the Mayan Bak'tun is not about apocalypse. It's about change. The change will be gradual, not instant. Humanity is moving to a better place. All the propaganda about apocalypse is to keep people afraid and from sitting, meditating, and feeling that the world is actually changing for the better.
 
Hi Foreigner, thanks for your explanation. You sound like you know your stuff. In my email, in the first paragraph, i stated "the popular opinion is that it is a spiritual ending and beginning of the age of Aquarius, and the evolution of the human consciousness. I really hope this is the case" ... This is the quick version of what you explained in your email. The dawning of a new age for humankind. I glossed over it and summed it up in one sentence, but i am essentially saying the same thing you have explained. Evolution and dawn of the new. The rest of my email is a 'WHAT IF' .... what ifs are often paranoid and extreme by nature. I can appreciate how crazy my post sounds. I have an interest in survivalism, and the target of the event - in this case the mayan end of calendar, is actually irrelivant, and i am interested more in the challenge. The only other thing worth mentioning though is that i keep having post-apocolyptic dreams which are having a big impact on me - and i admit I do have a feeling that *something* is coming, but freely admit i don't know what, and that the majority, as Foreigner stated, believe it is simply a new phase in humankind's existance.
 
I agree that the end of the Mayan long count signifies the beginning of the next cycle. Have you by chance read the Popol Vuj?
 
Absolutely. There is no doubt that we are clicking over a new cycle. And no question that it will involve evolution and transformation. The unknown is whether there will be any suffering associated with the transformation. I haven't read the Popol Vuj, but i've read interpretations of it. I've been tracking 2012 for about 3 years and have read countless articles and interpretations of the calendar. The majority and popular theory suggests that the transformation WON'T involve any kind of disaster or mass event, but that it is gradual and has already begun. That the evidence of our expanding consciousness is all around us allready in examples like the way the way we are a more tolerant and accepting society than ever before, that we are now a unified planet through things like the internet, etc. Those that are predicting dire events are the minority - and even the doomsday sayers are stipulating that the disaster will be a necassary part of the transformation to cut off the dead wood.
 
WarChild said:
The most technically proficient race in the history of humans is not likely to get this totally wrong.
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What do you mean by technically proficient?

We'd do better learning from the Mayan example of the inevitable collapse that follows resource demand outstripping resource supply, rather than this 2012 hocus pocus.
 
^ this. i can't help but think of this as a distraction from the real pressing issues mankind faces.
i think conspiracy theories and doomsday scenarios can be pretty interesting, but there is plenty to be worried about in the world without having to get esoteric IMO.
believe what you wish though, we'll see what happens by december i suppose.
 
footscrazy said:
We'd do better learning from the Mayan example of the inevitable collapse that follows resource demand outstripping resource supply, rather than this 2012 hocus pocus.
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Mayan civilization did not collapse or disappear, it simply dispersed into Spanish colonies. There are still Mayan people around today, though most are part Spanish.

You may be thinking of the Olmec whose disappearance remains a mystery.
 
meh even if one of the 10000000000000000000's of prophecies does come true theres not much we can do to stop it and i'll be fucked if im spending my last days on this planet hiding out in some bunker in the middle of no where!of course it'll be in the back of my mind on the day but im just gonna enjoy myself until then and if the world does happen to end on the 21st of December i say LIFE WELL SPENT!every cunt was freaking out when the year 2000 came about but all that happend was a short power outage and everyone got really really drunk.think of every day as your last enjoy it while you can!you could get hit by a bus tomorrow for all you know!
 
If the shit does hit the fan, chances are I'm gong to eat copious amounts of acid and go out with a bang =D
 
seen some groovy mayan calendar print tabs...they would be perfect!
 
You should google Doomsday Preppers you can download an 11 part documentary from certain sites, its funny seeing the how much time/effort/money they spend building what they believe will save them from doomsday as we know it!

Im with JS just enjoy life, cause for all you know you could drop dead tomorrow. People have been saying this shit for thousands of years, and probably to make money off the believers.

Proof from Nasa & Scientists that 2012 will not happen !
 
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Ill write another letter to Santa to see if he will make it this Xmas.
 
The ability to accurately predict, to the day, the future in a universe with sooo many constantly changing variables is as difficult as it is ridiculous. Has anyone who believes in this Mayan calendar thing read any genuine scientific or astronomy papers on the subject or at least read something by someone, preferably a scientist, who specialises in mayan history? Or are people getting their information from people and texts and quite possibly silly documentaries (made by the entertainment industry) that have no footing in proper astronomy or real historical findings and research and do not follow any set of fundamental principles that can provably produce results that are scientifically watertight? I think too many people have taken what people like Terence McKenna, that silly documentary zeitgeist and other sources of unreliable new age pop culture trivia have said as gospel without investigating the rest of the information that many very qualified critics have provided. I looked into this a while back and I was overwhelmed by the amount of evidence there was disproving all of these apocalyptic theories and this supposed evidence of some kind of spiritual awakening in mankind, there's just so much evidence against it from all sides that i don't see how anybody could believe it. For one the Mayan calendar wasn't designed by the Mayans as a tool to predict the future at all, they had no intention whatsoever of predicting any doomsday events - the doomsday idea was created by new age westerners looking for something to validate their illogical and scientifically unproven theories and ideas. It was simply an impressively accurate and well designed calendar for its time.

Like spacejunk said we have plenty of problems in the world that are far higher up the to do list and very real that need fixing. If people are worried about this end of the world business then focusing on things like climate change, pollution, over reliance on unrenewable resources and overpopulation should be the priority because they will very provably be causing us a whole heap of trouble in the future.
 
cassandragemini said:
The ability to accurately predict, to the day, the future in a universe with sooo many constantly changing variables is as difficult as it is ridiculous. Has anyone who believes in this Mayan calendar thing read any genuine scientific or astronomy papers on the subject or at least read something by someone, preferably a scientist, who specialises in mayan history? Or are people getting their information from people and texts and quite possibly silly documentaries (made by the entertainment industry) that have no footing in proper astronomy or real historical findings and research and do not follow any set of fundamental principles that can provably produce results that are scientifically watertight? I think too many people have taken what people like Terence McKenna, that silly documentary zeitgeist and other sources of unreliable new age pop culture trivia have said as gospel without investigating the rest of the information that many very qualified critics have provided. I looked into this a while back and I was overwhelmed by the amount of evidence there was disproving all of these apocalyptic theories and this supposed evidence of some kind of spiritual awakening in mankind, there's just so much evidence against it from all sides that i don't see how anybody could believe it. For one the Mayan calendar wasn't designed by the Mayans as a tool to predict the future at all, they had no intention whatsoever of predicting any doomsday events - the doomsday idea was created by new age westerners looking for something to validate their illogical and scientifically unproven theories and ideas. It was simply an impressively accurate and well designed calendar for its time.

Like spacejunk said we have plenty of problems in the world that are far higher up the to do list and very real that need fixing. If people are worried about this end of the world business then focusing on things like climate change, pollution, over reliance on unrenewable resources and overpopulation should be the priority because they will very provably be causing us a whole heap of trouble in the future.
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Man I could hug you right now.

Nobody with any sense, not even the Mayans let alone the scientific community is or was expecting anything apocalyptic to happen this December.

And if something does... it will most surely be a complete coincidence.

And even then, something you gotta face. You're gonna die anyway, this December, next December, this week, at some point it's gonna happen. Personally, if the world ends it ends, I'm content to be one of the ones that don't survive any supposed apocalypse should one happen in my life time.

And their stories passed from generation to generation said that it was the END OF DAYS
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Have you ever seen a story pass from even a friend to a friend to a friend in the same generation? It's often very different in just that period of time.

Not that it matters, just thought I'd mention it anyway.
 
I'm wit cassandra and Jess.

Mayan calendar stuff is bs in my opinion. We need to focus on caring for our planet and the people in it, not on a flimsy survival of the fittest doomsday scenario.
 
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