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FUBAR is your daughter OK? The majority of people only get mild symptoms (they reckon a good percentage of the population have already contracted Covid without even realising it)

The quarantine must be a bitch though
 
Forever Changes said:
FUBAR is your daughter OK? The majority of people only get mild symptoms (they reckon a good percentage of the population have already contracted Covid without even realising it)

The quarantine must be a bitch though
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Yes mate, thanks. She has had some symptoms, but they've only been mild and is happily getting pissed in the sunshine at the moment. She had the worst of it about 5 days ago.

Me and the wife have also displayed a few symptoms over the last couple of days which seem to come and go periodically. If it was just me I'd put it down to the booze and fags, but the fact the mrs has described exactly what I've experienced suggests a mild dose. Gonna try and get a test done for us because if we come back positive that will cut the quarantine time down to 7 days - then I can get back to work before I murder my fuckin family... ;)
 
Most people I know, myself included, had a strange cold in January which we all put down, with hindsight, as corona
 
Am getting tested on Wednesday before I go back to work.
I think I had in in december. At the time thought was just the flu but was fucked up for weeks .
 
It's been like this for quite a few years now yawn if you hadn't noticed...

No new blood coming in. Means not many people are researching drugs and their effects and share their experiences.
Maybe people know it all by now or/and they don't give flying hoot what happens...
You can look at the real problem in a different ways.
Ask yourself what made you join the forum?

I've always said it 'where are them 18 year olds willing to get their tits out?'

That's my view of it anyways.
 
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It’s about who’s here and not about those that have gone elsewhere ie Facebook for kicks . I’ve just been kicked off the shit shite for a day , picture featuring Hitler . They don’t like that .
 
Forums have been slowly dying a slow death for years. Guess all the new kids know everything and anything nowadays 🤔
 
Bare_head said:
Forums have been slowly dying a slow death for years. Guess all the new kids know everything and anything nowadays 🤔
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I don't know about this board in particular, but internet forums can be a lifeline for people - especially people like me with little social contact. You can make real friendships on them, even if you don't ever meet in person, and I've found as you get older in life it's harder to make 'real life' friends after you leave school/University.

I dislike social media - it brings out the narcissistic, self-obsessed and sanctimonious side in people often - the only one I use is Facebook, and that usually annoys me, because some people just go on about how great their lives are, often - it seems to me - just to make others envious. There are friends I have on FB who I used to like but FB has in some ways changed my opinion of them, more negatively. However, it has been great in keeping in contact with some old friends

But don't knock a good internet forum - even though the other posters are strangers. But some forums are better than others - some too large and busy, some too small and quiet. Bluelight is a good one, with the right balance I think.

Although the 'Other Drugs' subforum gets a bit too busy sometimes and I wonder if it could be split into more specific subforums such as 'Opiates', 'Benzodiazipines' etc
 
Forever Changes said:
I don't know about this board in particular, but internet forums can be a lifeline for people - especially people like me with little social contact. You can make real friendships on them, even if you don't ever meet in person, and I've found as you get older in life it's harder to make 'real life' friends after you leave school/University.

I dislike social media - it brings out the narcissistic, self-obsessed and sanctimonious side in people often - the only one I use is Facebook, and that usually annoys me, because some people just go on about how great their lives are, often - it seems to me - just to make others envious. There are friends I have on FB who I used to like but FB has in some ways changed my opinion of them, more negatively. However, it has been great in keeping in contact with some old friends

But don't knock a good internet forum - even though the other posters are strangers. But some forums are better than others - some too large and busy, some too small and quiet. Bluelight is a good one, with the right balance I think.
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I'm the same way I quit my FB page a wile back, I think ppl see ppl on there as what there status is and not the person ,
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
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Snapchat, tiktok, kik
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TikTok is all proper strict about content moderation, which to be fair makes sense for a Chinese company. Some hot girls on there but no titties on display :(

Instagram ain't too bad, they don't allow full nudity but plenty of what I follow on there is literally just soft porn.

Twitter has a surprisingly active nsfw community too and they don't censor shit.

Fetlife is always good if you happen to be into that sort of stuff, plenty of nudez on there.

One thing I'm seeing these days with all these platforms though is that they're basically being used to advertise Onlyfans pages and shit where you pay to follow. Same with Snapchat it's always "buy my premium Snapchat account." Also I dunno about anyone else but I cannot even fucking use the latest Snapchat update. I have no fucking clue how to navigate anything. Used to have mates updating their stories on there which I no longer see so either they cba with it either or I'm just looking in the wrong place because it's all been moved around again.

R.I.P. Tumblr. Their porn blogs were great, Yahoo killed it. Met three fit girls off Tumblr and fucked 'em as well. Early 2010's was peak Tumblr where an awkward teen like my former self looking for some love just had to be all nerdy about Doctor Who and I had thousands of girls following me. Nothing like that around anymore because online dating has replaced it and in the process become far too mainstream and overcrowded.

Bare_head said:
Forums have been slowly dying a slow death for years. Guess all the new kids know everything and anything nowadays 🤔
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Kids these days use Facebook groups instead of forums mostly. There was a decent harm reduction group called Safe Sesh or something but FB shut it down. This was ages ago no idea what's going on there now, don't have an account anymore.

Forever Changes said:
I don't know about this board in particular, but internet forums can be a lifeline for people - especially people like me with little social contact. You can make real friendships on them, even if you don't ever meet in person, and I've found as you get older in life it's harder to make 'real life' friends after you leave school/University.

I dislike social media - it brings out the narcissistic, self-obsessed and sanctimonious side in people often - the only one I use is Facebook, and that usually annoys me, because some people just go on about how great their lives are, often - it seems to me - just to make others envious. There are friends I have on FB who I used to like but FB has in some ways changed my opinion of them, more negatively. However, it has been great in keeping in contact with some old friends

But don't knock a good internet forum - even though the other posters are strangers. But some forums are better than others - some too large and busy, some too small and quiet. Bluelight is a good one, with the right balance I think.

Although the 'Other Drugs' subforum gets a bit too busy sometimes and I wonder if it could be split into more specific subforums such as 'Opiates', 'Benzodiazipines' etc
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I agree forums > social media any day, it's more personal ironically. You'd think it'd be the other way around but nah.

I actually have a solid theory on this. On FB and any other social media where you go by your real identity and follow people you know in real life, you feel the need to invent a persona, put on a front, and then carry this front into real life as well as online.

This is why for example you got teens all stressed out about social media, they live their lives on their profiles and feel like they have to present that image IRL too. And they at the same time think everyone's shit is somehow real, so they feel like they need to one up everyone else all the time. Luckily social media happens to make its money through advertising so hey, perfect! Buy this new shit here and you can be as cool as your friends! Consumerism is hardly new ofc, but social media allows for the first time for it to be very specifically targeted to the individual and tied in with their social group, which in turn makes it far far easier to influence people.

As a result what you get is a bunch of (understandably) stressed out anxious kids all pretending to be someone else and pressured to follow everyone and they grew up with this shit so that's all they fucking know. And this is why you have proven connections between social media and depression and anxiety.

To put it simple, when I was a teen you had this social hierarchy bullshit at school but when you went home it ended. These days at that age you cannot escape it because it's always in your pocket.

Compare to forums, and I will loosely include old school Tumblr in this too because it had similar dynamics although a bit more personal, and old school Reddit was also fairly similar although that too has long since gone the way of Tumblr where a combination of interference by corporate bosses and the natural effect of too many users have killed the vibe.

There is no expectation of using your real name. It's not designed to communicate with people you know in real life. It just brings together communities of people with common interests.

I'm sure most people still put on a certain persona when they go online that might be different to how they act in real life. However it is highly compartmentalised. When you close your laptop you go back to acting as you normally do. There is no mixture between your online persona and your real life persona.

In fact I would go further and suggest most people act more like "themselves" than they would in real life once they feel comfortable in a certain community. After all you are just a username. If people don't like it you can just go away and find another forum with a community more suited to your interests and personality. There's not really any risk because it's not like your mum will add you on a random forum or your posts will be seen by your mates and become gossip tomorrow. So you have freedom to speak your mind.

As Oscar Wilde famously said: "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Directly because of all this, people can connect on a real level more easily. There's no fronting and faking and keeping up appearances, especially on a forum like BL where it's all druggies, what business do we have to judge each other as long as we ain't harming third parties? I've honestly had more civil discussions on here than I ever did on any social media.

Obviously you always got trolls online no matter what but I also feel like the culture that builds around forums encourages people to develop a thicker skin. Someone trolling on a forum is, like yourself, just some random username. It's easy to ignore that, especially on a forum where the sensible members outnumber the trolls by a large margin, then the community collectively doesn't feed them and they get bored of just looking like retards. Or if the forum is full of trolls you can just stop posting and go somewhere else.

Very different on social media where you have your real identity out there on your profile and especially if you're in the generation where your real life reputation is tied into social media. Suddenly a random troll is an attack on your real life persona and reputation. Again that's more stress, anxiety, etc.

One more element of all this is the increasing centralisation of online communities. As social media groups overtake forums, you sleepwalk into a world where all the major online discussion boards are effectively controlled by Facebook. Where you used to have different sites run by different people with different views and ideologies, you now have one big site set up to learn everything it can about your private life, run by one guy's NSA backed corporate machine which can ban communities with millions of members for no reason and not be held to account by anyone.

There's a lot of talk now about creating decentralised social networks, in the sense that separate communities are run on separate servers by separate admins even though the underlying software is the same, which is designed to fix this problem. Except this concept sounds kind of familiar... perhaps because I'm using it right now and it's already existed since the 90's.

Here's a good TL;DR version of most of this and it's from 1992:

"Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy, then gives them drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction? It is already happening to some extent in our own society. It is well known that the rate of clinical depression has been greatly increasing in recent decades ... the increasing rate of depression is certainly the result of SOME conditions that exist in today's society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed, modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect, antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable."

"Hidden video cameras are now used in most stores and in many other places, computers are used to collect and process vast amounts of information about individuals. Information so obtained greatly increases the effectiveness of physical coercion (i.e., law enforcement). Then there are the methods of propaganda, for which the mass communication media provide effective vehicles. Efficient techniques have been developed for winning elections, selling products, influencing public opinion."

That last sentence certainly hits different after the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

Lots more I can say about this topic from both a technological and psychological POV. But the speed is wearing off and the diazepam is kicking in.
 
^ yeah great post

Sometimes I think people on Facebook forget that everything they post is potentially being seen by everyone on their friends list (and possibly God knows who else), so they may post a photo of them doing something stupid and it's being seen by work colleagues/bosses/extended family/whoever. Just because people don't reply doesn't mean they aren't seeing it on their feed. That's why I've always been fairly private about what I put on FB since these are people who I know (or used to know) in real life, all building up an impression of you from what you post.

You can be completely anonymous on forums like this (even ones not related to drugs) so I don't feel as inhibited about sharing personal thoughts and feelings, and if someone makes fun of me, fuck em, I don't know them and will never meet them

And there's no doubt that modern Western society, despite its good points, is making people more depressed. I bet a tribesman living a simple life in the Amazon is far happier than many people here in the West, while we're all busy necking Prozac
 
Can’t remember where I read it, but apparently there’s more cctv/cameras in Britain than citizens.
 
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