Opioids Dilaudid/hydromorphone MEGA THREAD and FAQ

[OpanaOnMyBanana]

I am looking for dilaudid as we speak! It is my second favorite to IV, first being Opana. I hate moving to a new area, but hopefully Santa won't miss my house this year... If you know what I mean.

Hydromorphone is by far the safest to IV, and if you are doing it any other way you are wasting it's potential.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Dilaudid comes in 1, 2, 4 and 8 mg pills here in the US as well, no? I thought there was a 3 mg pill also but I guess not.

3mg suppositories.

ACTUALLY if you arent a chronic opiate user, 4mg of hydromorphone WILL get you nicely high!!

I USED to be able to get a nice 4-6 hour euphoria from just 4-6 mg snorted... Used to... sigh..
It has 30% bio-availability...BUT then again it is also 8-10 x STRONGER than morphine,
kinda off-setting the 30% reduction in efficacy...
SO, my 6mg, reduced to 2mg for the 30% BA...but then x8-10 =~16-20mg morphine!
AGAIN for a NON opiate user or occasional user this will give you significant results.

That guy is right, its how I got into dilaudid, before shooting it and the methadone 8)

Insufflation is 55% or so, snorting a couple 4mg's got me really damn high and in a cloud. When I was shooting up it made me cringe that I was snorting so many of the 8mg ones, but now thinking back, it was really great. Hell, I first encountered it from dentists giving 1mg (and later the 2mg ones) for TMJ related pain and snorting 4 1mg pills, brand name, would get me real happy and nodding, I was really naive then, only having opis when scripted, which was kinda often due to all that TMJ/trigeminal nerve disorder related pain. But suddenly they stopped giving me anything, they had found what was the best for me (2 Codeine Contins 200mg a day) and my maxillofacial dentist (jaw specialist) retired and I was left out in the cold, was able to get dilaudid again, (those 4 and 8mg brand name pills) and I would get really high. The nasal BA is 55%, I've seen enough evidence for it, it is on wiki and the sources for that BA are pretty damn official/believable.

Stop pushing people to slam dilaudid, I've slammed it for 2 years, I was able to stop myself once, but the second time I was really too deep in and the scars on my hands where I would shoot were so huge, swollen and disgusting that I should have taken pictures of them to show people here.

I'm not an ex opiate user on an anti-opiate crusade at all btw, now that I only take 44mg of methadone a day, there are rough days and thankfully I am able to get some Kadian 100 and 130mg to eat with Tagamets 600mg and get pretty high and nodding in my bed, my favourite way of enjoying opiates, morphine is amazing when you manage to get it to work orally. I guess it would work too with hydromorphone...but cimetidine is Rx only here and never really thought of getting it scripted, it wasn't difficult at all to get those horse pills (600mg), but had I done it, I could have taken advantage of HM Contins of 18-24-30mg by just eating them after crushing the beads.

But no, I got addicted to that goddamn empty rush, at least heroin has a high following the rush when IV'd....i would get a minimal 5-10mins rush after slamming 4-12mg of HM, and going higher than 12mg for a shot does not add to the rush, the rush is godly and out of this world at 4mg and then increasing the dose does work but shots over 12mg have never really done a difference and left me more pissed off than anything.

Stay safe.

P.S.

I was sort of wondering about something,. a few days ago i picked up some triangle dilaudid 8mg, split in half and railed 4mg.

only after i was buzzed i read that hydromorphone is 8x more stronger than morphine. so it was like i snorted 32mg of
morphine, so...did i like survive an overdose? hahaha feedback plz thanks

Snorting morphine is the most idiotic thing a opiate user can do, it has lower B/A than oral, maybe 15%...thats why.

 

[MemphisX3]

Am I crazy, or does my 4mg dilaudid work amazingly well for break through pain? I've been taking them as prescribed orally, although I'm sure I'll enjoy a more effective ROA with those I am saving for future recreational use.

I mean, most people seem to prefer oxymorphone to it's hydro cousin, but I find the hydromorphone works better than IR oxycodone given my circumstances (also taking 100mg MS Cotin 2x/day; been on this stuff for what I think is a week now, or something that is about its equivalent).

dilaudid and opana are the best for breakthrough imo

 

[ecstasyboy717]

I love dilaudid. My tolerance to opiates is through the roof though. I can IV an 8mg get a wicked rush but no high afterwards... the rush will always be there nut not the high that follows. Also withdrawal from d's is worse than H,morphine,etc IMO

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

I love dilaudid. My tolerance to opiates is through the roof though. I can IV an 8mg get a wicked rush but no high afterwards... the rush will always be there nut not the high that follows. Also withdrawal from d's is worse than H,morphine,etc IMO

You got that right, being a slave to the dilly rush is what got me to methadone.

And now methadone made me gain 70lbs and I need to inject testosterone in me every week. I'm changing to suboxone soonish, i manage to endure just 41mg, i'll have to till the 28th, then i'll switch, nevermind the 30mg recommendations. I'm doing it inpatient.

It's just that good, I expected i'd have to detox one way or the other, but I didn't know methadone was so fucking bad on your hormones. The endo I saw said all opiates do this but my methadone docs are also pain docs and say mostly methadone causes this. But bupe does not cause any of this, I saw a lot of research saying, but my testosterone doc was saying it was a pharmaceutical company scam lol...nah the huge study i read was made in germany by the government, anyways...

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

You got that right, being a slave to the dilly rush is what got me to methadone.

And now methadone made me gain 70lbs and I need to inject testosterone in me every week. I'm changing to suboxone soonish, i manage to endure just 41mg, i'll have to till the 28th, then i'll switch, nevermind the 30mg recommendations. I'm doing it inpatient.

It's just that good, I expected i'd have to detox one way or the other, but I didn't know methadone was so fucking bad on your hormones. The endo I saw said all opiates do this but my methadone docs are also pain docs and say mostly methadone causes this. But bupe does not cause any of this, I saw a lot of research saying, but my testosterone doc was saying it was a pharmaceutical company scam lol...nah the huge study i read was made in germany by the government, anyways...

The methadone lowered your testosterone that bad?

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Yep, the shit's got a bad rep for a reason, the doc taking care of me was saying all opiates can cause what it did to my testo and cortisol but I researched a lot and it seems methadone is the worst offender, there's even studies comparing it to bupe and bupe comes as a winner as being much less dangerous....now to finally switch to it. But I think I already had an issue there and methadone just fucked my pituitary gland, I have to have an MRI to see if its not tumours on it....99% they are benign tumours compressing the gland and causing the lowering to start with...add methadone to the mix and yeah...Hopefully it was all that fucking juice.

 

[bredful branes]

Hydromorphe is an ass kicking anagesiac, but it is also the devil. If you want to build up your tolerance to opiates as quickly as you can this would be the drug of choice. Also it is very nasty to withdraw from, if your gonna do it for the rush beware cause I think H is the only thing to compare and that's a dark road to down. If your gonna use for pain start with oral(I know its a complete waste) then when you build tolerance go to insulation. Tolerance happens quick with this one.

 

[laCster]

i love IV hydromorphone. it is the bees knees. 4mgs would rock my world even after being dependent on opiates for over a year, dont even get me started on IV hydrmophone + cocaine in the same syringe, i think it was one of the best highs i have ever had. though, this shit is soo addicting, i had yellow bruises all up and down my arm last month :/

 

[therealog]

When adding another drug like coke to hydromorphone, does it lower the water solubility in some way of either? I never used to heat; I usually use a pill crusher, but lately I feel like when I heat in a spoon the solution is clearer. I guess using crack doesn't help. I'm assuming heat just speeds the reaction.... and when I heat, I feel there is less wash

 

[laCster]

you should never, ever heat the solution! ever, period, end of story! (unless you have tar maybe). adding the coke to the mix didnt really affect the solubility in my experience, you just have to use a little extra water to get all the goodies. using a micron is the best way to inject anything, but i would get out a spoon, crush 4mgs of dilaudid, add water(70-80mls) and stirr. then i would add coke to the solution and stir again. add cotton and draw up.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

When adding another drug like coke to hydromorphone, does it lower the water solubility in some way of either? I never used to heat; I usually use a pill crusher, but lately I feel like when I heat in a spoon the solution is clearer. I guess using crack doesn't help. I'm assuming heat just speeds the reaction.... and when I heat, I feel there is less wash

The solution is clearer when you're heating it because you are literally melting all of the disgusting inactive fillers like wax, other pill binders, etc. That re solidifies in your veins and can cause huge problems. The crap that isn't water soluble in your mix, should not be injected. That is why you don't cook your shots.

 

[therealog]

Thanks guys. That's what I thought. Ill stick to cold pill crush and just stir vigorously. I throw both in at the same time, crush, shock with .3vinegar/.7water, stir, shoot.

 

[AKZ90]

Injecting hydromorphone

So here's my situation.. I was severely addicted to oxy contin for about 4 years by time I decided it was time to get clean I was using 8-10 80mg pills a day, I decided methadone was my best option so over the course of 2-3 years I successfully weened down to 6mgs from 120.. then I relapsed.. using fentanyl and hydro morph contin now I have acquired an 8mg dalata and I know from previous experience the best use for these is to inject it so I have a couple questions.. First off should I do the whole thing at once? I'm currently on 15mgs of methadone and get on the nod from 12mg hydro morph so I do have some opiate tolerance.. I have injected before but only a few times and not since my relapse.. I'm also just looking for any advice.. Thanks..

 

[laCster]

im guessing the hydromorphone is extended release? if so there is not really a good way to inject these. yah it is possible to do so, but it will FUCK up your veins soo bad. please dont inject pills without a micron filter, ESPECIALLY extended release pills. people still and will inject XR pills/capsules but in the end the risks are not worth the benefit. you could end up with a blood clot and have a stroke, and/or you could experience a pulmonary embolism, suffocate and die. both these things can happen with shooting pills which is scary enough, but add the XR wax and shit to the mix and there is so much shit that could go wrong. not to mention you are not the experienced in using needles and probably have bad technique which really puts you at a disadvantage

anyways, 4mg rockks my world, and i was shooting upwards of 32-40mg a day. the one time i tried to IV 8mg in one go, i fell out for 2hrs and woke up in the same spot with a needle in my hand. be careful...pluss you have only injected a few times??? pills, especially XR pills are fucking god awful for your veins and if you fuck up and miss the chances of forming an abscess is high.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

We have a whole active megathread about everything hydromorphone.

--->merged

 

[AKZ90]

Thanks for the advice.. The one I have is an instant release dilaudid the white triangular shaped ones (in Canada anyway lol)... I know the proper way to prepare it as I see my friends do it on a regular basis, your right my technique probably isn't the greatest I have hit my friend a few times and never missed but that isn't myself lol.. so if I do choose to go this route I deffinatly should not do it all at once?

 

[laCster]

yeah please dont do it all at once!! hydrmophone is fucking powerful when you inject it. like i said i say inject 4mgs, you will definitely get the rush; and if you mess up on the first one you still have some left to shoot up.

here is a tip...swab the site where you want to inject w/ a alcohol wipe; and tie off ( i dont like using tourniquets because they fuck me up and make me slip out). then pick up the prepped syringe, and go in at a 20-30 degree angle. push it in a little bit (SLOWLY), then pull back to create a vacuum ( should get a little air in your syrinGE). then go in further to hit the vein and right when you hit the vein, blood will automatically enter the syringe. then take off the tourniquet with your mouth if you have one on, even if you dont have one. pull back a little bit after the blood enters the syringe to really make sure you are in. then push half of the shot in slowly, you will know if you slipped out because it will hurt. push the solution half way in then stop and pull back the plunger to make sure you still get blood and are in the vein. then push the rest in slowly. dont forcefully push the plunger, like do it hard and fast because it will put pressure on your vein. use a little finesse . good luck

ALWAYS USE CLEAN/NEW SYRINGES; THEY ARE ONLY MEANT TO BE USED ONCE SO AFTER DOING THE SHOT CAP IT AND THROW IT AWAY. also, if you are going to shoot up pills regularly, definitely get a micron filter.

before you shoot up, please read this thread thoroughly. it is very helpful
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...d-Info-MEGATHREAD-amp-FAQ-III-Vs-I-Want-Blood

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

im guessing the hydromorphone is extended release? if so there is not really a good way to inject these. yah it is possible to do so, but it will FUCK up your veins soo bad. please dont inject pills without a micron filter, ESPECIALLY extended release pills. people still and will inject XR pills/capsules but in the end the risks are not worth the benefit. you could end up with a blood clot and have a stroke, and/or you could experience a pulmonary embolism, suffocate and die. both these things can happen with shooting pills which is scary enough, but add the XR wax and shit to the mix and there is so much shit that could go wrong. not to mention you are not the experienced in using needles and probably have bad technique which really puts you at a disadvantage

anyways, 4mg rockks my world, and i was shooting upwards of 32-40mg a day. the one time i tried to IV 8mg in one go, i fell out for 2hrs and woke up in the same spot with a needle in my hand. be careful...pluss you have only injected a few times??? pills, especially XR pills are fucking god awful for your veins and if you fuck up and miss the chances of forming an abscess is high.

So many people here shoot up their hydromorph contins...as for myself when my guy was out of dillies and could only send 18mg or 30mg hydro contins my way I'd be disappointed...even if they were supposedly more bang for the buck...even crushing the beads in a mortar and pestle wouldn't give me the kind of rush brand name dilly pills would give me, they sure did the trick, but they seemed to keep some of their XR component.

I agree about the filtering, I did it mostly with SteriFilts which are made for shooting up pills, coke, even crack. At least the hydrormoph contin beads do not have talc in them unlike Kadians....once i had crushed a couple Kadians 130mg salivating at the thought of shooting up IR morphine again (it's how I started with the shooting up...I had 30mg and 50mg Statex (another brand of MS IR up north)....then I hit up rxlist and it tells me there was talc in them and I was out of sterifilts or anything like that....sigh, at least I can get some again, but right now i'm in the process of getting rid of methadone and switching to bupe and hopefully be on bupe the shortest time possible, which will be easier than completely getting rid of methadone...i'm stuck at 41mg and going any lower makes me feel shitty at around 9 pm (12 hours after dosing).

 

[lacedIvy]

dilaudid was my first love. It really isn't a good pain med taken by mouth in my opinion.