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[Diary] - taking low dose LSD on a daily

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Hi there,

first of all : I`m from Germany, so my first language isnt`t English. My English skills a far from perfect, so I want to apologize in advance. I try my best while having dict.cc on the side, but still there a going to be a lot of mistakes.
I write my diary in an English forum for several reasons: English community are obviously bigger, so the feedback is going to be more intense, at least I hope so. Secondly its great for improving my skills and a nice little "brain-workout". I kindly invite you to correct me, if you recognize wrong grammatical patterns.

After some research I decided to take frequent low dosages of LSD. Its either going to be a "1 Day-on, 2 Days-off" or a "1 Month-on, 1 Month-off" schedule, depending on how I feel during the first week or two, and of course how fast I get used to it.
The product I`ll use is a research chemical called 1P-LSD. I red that its against the rules to tell you my source, but sure you know where to get it.


Who am I and why I`m doing it ?

(going to keep this as short as possible)


My name is Tony (not my real name) and I`m 21 years old. My experience with drugs is the same as all young guys with a healthy dose ( or too much ) of curiosity have.
Did some shrooms, few times speed, 1 time coke, 1 time LSD, and smoked a bunch of weed for 6 months after finishing my school carrier.
After that period I kinda got a very negative opinion about taking drugs just for the sake of having a good time.
I had a lifechanging crash after my exams (don't want to bore you with details ) and fell into deep depression. Yes, I said the forbidden word. Depression. Well at least it seems very forbidden where I life.
Its almost like you become an exterior, socialwise. Even though its an illness like having a cold: There is just something wrong with your body and the way the chemicals work in your brain. It starts small, but if you ignore it, like most of us do at first, it gets worst and worst. Its like influenza that started as a cold.
But since its so social unacceptable to just call in school or at your work and tell them, that you have depression, it goes downhill pretty fast.
And again, like every other illness, you can take medication, you can consult a therapist, you can talk with you friends about it, but at the end, you have to work it out by yourself.
So I did a massive research. And I really mean massive. Like for 2 years. Watching videos and reading books about how the brain and the body works, what depression really is, what causes it, how to cure it and what to do when you fall back into it (biggest problem i.m.o).
And it helped, for most of my illness.
Problem is, after all the time of staying at home, not getting out of bed for weeks (!) and the big lack of challenges, my body is like in some kind of rusty state.
My vision is blurry, the voice is trapped, my posture is messed up bad, my thoughts are restless, the way I`m talking is kind of choppy.
I did my best to cure these problems, but it seems that I cant get over the edge. I feel that the last 2-3 % to become strong again are missing. But I am almost there.
So that's why I did some research again ....



Few years ago I had a discussion with a former friend about Steve Jobs. He said that some of his groundbreaking ideas came from psychedelics. And after my first trips it started to make sense to me. But I forgot about it.
Couple days ago I discovered an article about taking low dosages of LSD on a frequent base. It says that the hole silicon valley is on acid and almost every great entrepreneur takes it. I was simply on fire. And after watching "Limitless" for the 10th or so time, I decided to give it a try.

So as soon as my order arrives (either today or in 1-2 days) I`ll publish a post about my experience as detailed as possible without getting boring. Every day.
Including dosages, the effects in my social, sport, sex and carrier part of my life, my nutrition and my supplementation.

Hope you enjoy !
Tony
 
Hi there,

the acid was in the mail today. The separate pieces are extremely small so its almost impossible to cut it into exact dosages. 1 piece has 125 ug. I decided to divide each into 9, to start off with a daily dose of approximately 14 ug.
My first intension was to take 60 ug for once to see and learn how this chemical reacts in my body and also to get a different view on my current situation, so I`m able to plan my goals, that I want to achieve during this experiment, better.
Played with the thought for a while and then took it.

Don't know if it was a placebo or not, but I had the impression of a changing perception immediately. After a quick powernap of 40 mins the walls started to morph and I experienced a beautiful shocking and enlightening trip. To give you some examples :

- I discovered how watching porn affects me in an unhealthy way. I mean if you visit a free porn website, just stop for a second before uncovering yourself and realize exactly what your looking at. Its full of distorted and twisted faces. On every second video you can watch a girl trying to hide her paine and her pudency. Also, a TED presentation explained me how watching porn can mess you up. If you`re interested, I invite you to take a few minutes : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

- I realized that religion is just an underestimation of our body.

- I learned that my problems with girls came from my mommy issues. I need to take control on the source of it ! Also its time to confront my dad again on his behavior.


I`m going to start this experiment in a few hours now.

Nutritionwise I will eat a hole food vegan diet. I´m going to have a green & fruit smoothie twice a day and lots of complex carbs and proteins, while letting the fats low. I will also drink a bit over 1 gallon a day of bottled water, with occasionally added minerals and amino acids on it.
EP

2500 Kcal - 83 g fat - 150 g Protein - 290 Kh

2500 x 0.3 = 750 Kcal fat - 750 : 9 = 83 F
75 Kg x 2 = 150 g Protein - 150 x 4 = 600 Kcal
2500 - 750 - 600 = 1150 - 1150 : 4 = 290 Kh



Rice : 250 g dry = 200 g Kh - 17 Protein - 2,5 fat - 875 Kcal
Beans : 240 g = - 15 Protein - 1,5 Fat - 250 Kcal
Tofu : 200 g = 36 Protein - 5 g Fat - 400 Kcal
Protein Cereals : 100 g = 20 KHz - 41 Protein - 14 Fat - 400 Kcal
Almonds : 50 g = 11 KHz - 10 Protein - 25 Fat - 290 Kcal
Protein Powder : 30 g = - 25 Protein - 2,5 Fat - 120 Kcal
Smoothie : Fruit + Greens = 250 Kcal

I`ll take zink, vitamin b12, vitamin d3, an enzymes supplement for a better digestion and biotin as my supplements.

For sport enhancement I`ll take 2 different peptides : CJC no DAC and GHRP-6, each 100mcg 3xday.

Everyday I`ll start of at 5 am, take my acid, my supplements and my peptides, hop on the bioenergetic stool (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtQRh__ZLxs)
(Elliot Hulse, great guy ! Got most of my stuff from him) and hit the gym, as a daily morning ritual.


Psychedelics influence and desensitize several of the same receptors as SSRIs. Sudden discontinuation of SSRIs could result in SSRI discontinuation syndrome. Upon discontinuation of extended psychedelic consumption I advise tapering the dose down over several weeks.

Thank you for the advice. Do you think this can occur on such a low dose as 14 ug ? I mean its logically that your brain receptors burn out when you take high dosages of psychedelics frequently, but my goal is to keep my dose on a very subtle subliminal level. Its like having a glass of red wine every evening before you go to bed, instead of getting completely hammered every week end. Lets see what's happens.

Hope you enjoy
Tony
 
Psychedelics influence and desensitize several of the same receptors as SSRIs. Sudden discontinuation of SSRIs could result in SSRI discontinuation syndrome. Upon discontinuation of extended psychedelic consumption I advise tapering the dose down over several weeks.
I have yet to read about withdrawal from discontinuing a microdose protocol... yes psychedelics act on serotonin receptors, as do SSRI (but those rather target the transporter than the actual receptor), but the difference is that psychedelics do not cause elevated levels of the neurotransmitter, as opposed to SSRI.
 
Psychedelics influence and desensitize several of the same receptors as SSRIs. Sudden discontinuation of SSRIs could result in SSRI discontinuation syndrome. Upon discontinuation of extended psychedelic consumption I advise tapering the dose down over several weeks.
Nope, as Bagseed already said, they don't work the same. LSD and others are serotonin receptor agonists, which means that they excite the serotonin receptor. SSRI's are serotonin reuptake inhibitors, causing elevated amounts of serotonin over time.

Serotonergic psychdelics just stop working if you take it too often. I think the most common schedule for using LSD as a nootropic is 1 day on, 2 days off, or something like that. I'm considering trying it myself maybe.
 
Nutritionwise I will eat a hole food vegan diet. I´m going to have a green & fruit smoothie twice a day and lots of complex carbs and proteins, while letting the fats low. I will also drink a bit over 1 gallon a day of bottled water

I advocate slow changes with diet and drug usage if possible. Our bodies adapt depending on drug use, diet, and environment. This takes awhile. Consider implementing each of those changes slowly and individually while keeping a journal. As an example begin with the LSD microdosing while slowly increasing your dose until the maximum benefits with minimum side effects are achieved. After ~1 month slowly introduce new foods in your diet beginning with 1/4 new food and 3/4 old food. Slowly increase the proportion of new food over >1 month while adjusting your diet maximizing benefits as per your journal. Then utilize this same process with supplements while using your notes.

With most people the cost vs benefit relationship of drinking bottled water vs tap water doesn't justify the effort. If nothing works drinking spring water is an option. If you do this follow the slow methodical process mentioned above maximizing the cost vs benefit relationship.
 
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Do you know of any recorded cases of this?

Yes, I have experienced temporary lingering effects upon discontinuing daily psychedelic usage. Tapering the dosage down slowly decreased the severity of those effects. I remember a paper was published researching the effects of repeated LSD dosing in the lab. From memory repeated dosing resulted in the brain expressing different densities of various receptors. Let me locate this one and I'll tell you whatever you want to know.



Bagseed and Incunabula,

Yes, the primary effect of SSRIs and LSD is different. The ultimate effects on setotonin receptors are similar. The SSRIs increase the concentration of serotonin binding with serotonin receptors. This down regulates the serotonin receptors. LSD mimics serotonin and also binds with serotonin receptors resulting in down regulation of serotonin receptors. In either situation similar short-term effects result.

After down regulation larger doses of agonists are required in achieving the same amount of receptor activation. This results in people on SSRIs requiring larger doses of LSD. This also results in LSD tolerance.

Wikipedia (SSRI) said:
On chronic dosing, the increased occupancy of pre-synaptic serotonin receptors signals the pre-synaptic neuron to synthesize and release less serotonin. Serotonin levels within the synapse drop, then rise again, ultimately leading to down-regulation of post-synaptic serotonin receptors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI#Mechanism_of_action


Wikipedia (LSD) said:
Tolerance

Tolerance to LSD-25 builds up over consistent use[51] and cross-tolerance has been demonstrated between LSD, mescaline[52] and psilocybin.[53] This tolerance is probably caused by downregulation of 5-HT2A receptors in the brain and diminishes a few days after cessation of use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide#Tolerance

In the brain, the effects of the short-term adaptation of down regulation are quickly reversed within several days. With increased receptor activation over long durations other adaptations develop in there.

With drugs causing increased serotonin receptor activation (LSD, MAOIs, SSRIs, ect.) the changes appear harmless and reversible. The changes won't happen immediately and won't dissipate immediately. Sudden discontinuation of the the cause often results in discontinuation symptoms as the brain adapts. Those symptoms are mitigated if the dose is slowly tapered over several weeks.
 
Yes, the primary effect of SSRIs and LSD is different. The ultimate effects on setotonin receptors are similar. The SSRIs increase the concentration of serotonin binding with serotonin receptors. This down regulates the serotonin receptors. LSD mimics serotonin and also binds with serotonin receptors resulting in down regulation of serotonin receptors. In either situation similar short-term effects result.

After down regulation larger doses of agonists are required in achieving the same amount of receptor activation. This results in people on SSRIs requiring larger doses of LSD. This also results in LSD tolerance.

Yes, that sounds savvy and it probably holds some truth, except in reality it's much more complex, and there is no "psychedelics discontinuation syndrome". What ever is causing the withdrawal syndrome from SSRI's it's not receptor down regulation. If it was that simple I think we'd know about it, but it actually turns out we don't know the exact mechanism of SSRI withdrawal (or even the source of their antidepressant effects). One theory appears to be, that discontinuation symptoms may arise from the rapid decrease in serotonin availability when treatment ends abruptly. But that is probably stating it too simple.

Anyway, pharmacology is pretty complex, so I'm not going to pretend I have it all figured out, I just know that advicing someone to taper off LSD, if they've been taking it for a longer period of time, is silly.

Navigate to the bottom of this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant_discontinuation_syndrome there's a few good scientific articles in there, but I'm not bothered to spend time finding them for you again right know, since BL already delete half my post once.
 
Do you know of any recorded cases of this?

This is the paper I mentioned. This corroborates my experience with regular psychedelic usage. I consumed much smaller doses and the after effects I had were a much milder type.

I have had similar experiences with most psychoactives (caffeine, cannabis, naproxen sodium, psychedelics, SSRIs, ect). If I consume psychoactives over long durations my brain adapts. I have learned giving my brain an opportunity of slowly readapting is desirable and beneficial. I taper my dose down on any medication I have consumed in a regular way.

Journal of Neuropharmacology said:
Chronic administration of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) every other day to rats results in a variety of abnormal behaviors. These build over the 90 day course of treatment and can persist at full strength for at least several months after cessation of treatment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24704148/
 
I think that what the psychedelic doc you saw that states people llike steve jobs in the tech business all take psychedelics means is that they don't do it every singe day....they do it eyonce and a while and have a strong trip. I also wouldn't look to steve jobs as a model of mental health...he had poor relationships with everyone including his wives and kids...and he was considered socially awkward or an asshole, he was recorded to be hateful and vengeful and would park in disabled spaces because he felt he deserved them. He never donated a cent of his fortune to a charith....all in all a horrible evil person that probably deserved cancer.

I don't see any possible benefit in wat you are doing other than getting more depressed, I've never heard anyone actually say that this work and a lot of people have brough it up and discussed it on this board. ketamine and mxe seem to be more appropriate for regular dosing to treat depression...but beware of going to far because they are highly addictive
 
This is the paper I mentioned. This corroborates my experience with regular psychedelic usage. I consumed much smaller doses and the after effects I had were a much milder type.

I have had similar experiences with most psychoactives (caffeine, cannabis, naproxen sodium, psychedelics, SSRIs, ect). If I consume psychoactives over long durations my brain adapts. I have learned giving my brain an opportunity of slowly readapting is desirable and beneficial. I taper my dose down on any medication I have consumed in a regular way.

So your hypothesis is, that as the brain adapts to all drugs taken for extended periods of time, it's neccesary to tapper everything - no matter what it is. I'm affraid pharmacology is't that simple.

So that study is somehow supposed to proove, that it's neccesary to tapper LSD and other 5HT2a agonists if taken for an extended period of time. I don't see it. If we could conclude anything at all from the abstract of that study, it's that extended use should cause schizophrenia.
 
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