isaaccain
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I usually use 12.8/500s, I forget if they're codeine phosphate or codeine phosphate hemihydrate, but that doesn't matter too much for solubility anyways I don't think. I'm having a hard time figuring out what the point of a semi hydrous salt is, if someone could explain why pharmaceutical companies do this I'd be grateful.
Right so here's my process, tell me where I'm going wrong:
•Get about 100ml of warm water. I don't know the exact temperature but I usually do 50/50 for kettle-boiled water and cold tap water.
•Dissolve pills in water. Usually, I don't bother crushing them, I put them in a bottle with the water and shake it up, or stir them in a cup until they dissolve.
•Put in the freezer, check in about 30 minutes. I have no way of checking the temperature so I just look for deposits of acetaminophen at the bottom of the bottle.
•Pour into an already-dampened makeshift filter, consisting of a funnel and a piece of paper towel folded over four times. Unfortunately, I have no coffee filters and literally no shop near me sells them. I could buy some online but I don't wanna look suspicious in front of my parents when we've already got three coffee machines and a french press.
•Filter into a jug or cup, usually get a clog but I just take out the 'filter', squeeze it a little and then swap it out for another.
That's it. I could grind the pills with a coffee grinder and disassemble my french press to use as a filter (but I'm worried it wouldn't be fine enough), but other than that, I don't really see what I'm doing wrong. I like to think I'm decent at high school chemistry and all that, but I'm not the best at understanding solvents. I thought phosphate salts were rarely anything more than slightly soluble in water, but everyone else's filtrates always turn out great and I barely get high, so I have a second question:
If I'm doing everything right, could it be the lack of chlorine in the water? Where I live, we don't treat our drinking water with fluoride, chlorine, etc., we treat it with UV radiation. I thought maybe the chlorine might be converting the phosphate salt to freely soluble codeine hydrochloride when the codeine reacts with the water. Would adding a tiny bit of bleach help? Or just destroy the codeine and my organs? I also thought salt - as in sodium chloride - might help in the same way to convert to hydrochloride, but you'd have to find the exact right balance of ions I think and I have no idea. If not bleach or salt, what about citric acid? Citrate is soluble in water and is used with heroin, so that would work, right?
Anyway sorry if this was boring but it's for the sake of science, man
Right so here's my process, tell me where I'm going wrong:
•Get about 100ml of warm water. I don't know the exact temperature but I usually do 50/50 for kettle-boiled water and cold tap water.
•Dissolve pills in water. Usually, I don't bother crushing them, I put them in a bottle with the water and shake it up, or stir them in a cup until they dissolve.
•Put in the freezer, check in about 30 minutes. I have no way of checking the temperature so I just look for deposits of acetaminophen at the bottom of the bottle.
•Pour into an already-dampened makeshift filter, consisting of a funnel and a piece of paper towel folded over four times. Unfortunately, I have no coffee filters and literally no shop near me sells them. I could buy some online but I don't wanna look suspicious in front of my parents when we've already got three coffee machines and a french press.
•Filter into a jug or cup, usually get a clog but I just take out the 'filter', squeeze it a little and then swap it out for another.
That's it. I could grind the pills with a coffee grinder and disassemble my french press to use as a filter (but I'm worried it wouldn't be fine enough), but other than that, I don't really see what I'm doing wrong. I like to think I'm decent at high school chemistry and all that, but I'm not the best at understanding solvents. I thought phosphate salts were rarely anything more than slightly soluble in water, but everyone else's filtrates always turn out great and I barely get high, so I have a second question:
If I'm doing everything right, could it be the lack of chlorine in the water? Where I live, we don't treat our drinking water with fluoride, chlorine, etc., we treat it with UV radiation. I thought maybe the chlorine might be converting the phosphate salt to freely soluble codeine hydrochloride when the codeine reacts with the water. Would adding a tiny bit of bleach help? Or just destroy the codeine and my organs? I also thought salt - as in sodium chloride - might help in the same way to convert to hydrochloride, but you'd have to find the exact right balance of ions I think and I have no idea. If not bleach or salt, what about citric acid? Citrate is soluble in water and is used with heroin, so that would work, right?
Anyway sorry if this was boring but it's for the sake of science, man