ungelesene_bettlek
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I am interested in the comparison of the cathinone versions of several MDMA derivatives. especially, I am interested in Ethylone, since I noticed that there is no Big&Dandy thread about it.
so, as far as I have understood this now, Methylone has the same dopamine release rate as MDMA, but significantly less serotonin release. this makes it in general weaker than MDMA, and it is a little bit more on the stimulant site and a little less empathogenic than MDMA. is this true so far?
butylone is said to be even closer to a straight stimulant and has only little empathogenic and entactogenic properties. true?
now to ethylone: what I have read about it now is very inconclusive. some say it is similar to butylone, while others claim that it is less stimulating with more serotonin release. what is true?
also I'm interested in how mephedrone comes into the picture: from its highly euphoric and reinforcing properties I would guess that it releases lots of dopamine, but also significant amounds of serotonin, which account for its entactogenic effects. does this make sense?
finally are there any experiences in mixing several of those cathinones to get an experience closer to MDMA? one idea I have in mind is combining methylone with a SSRA (MDAI would be the most obvious choice) in order to make up for the decreased serotonin release of methylone. could this work? is it safe?
so, as far as I have understood this now, Methylone has the same dopamine release rate as MDMA, but significantly less serotonin release. this makes it in general weaker than MDMA, and it is a little bit more on the stimulant site and a little less empathogenic than MDMA. is this true so far?
butylone is said to be even closer to a straight stimulant and has only little empathogenic and entactogenic properties. true?
now to ethylone: what I have read about it now is very inconclusive. some say it is similar to butylone, while others claim that it is less stimulating with more serotonin release. what is true?
also I'm interested in how mephedrone comes into the picture: from its highly euphoric and reinforcing properties I would guess that it releases lots of dopamine, but also significant amounds of serotonin, which account for its entactogenic effects. does this make sense?
finally are there any experiences in mixing several of those cathinones to get an experience closer to MDMA? one idea I have in mind is combining methylone with a SSRA (MDAI would be the most obvious choice) in order to make up for the decreased serotonin release of methylone. could this work? is it safe?