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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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dirtyinvega said:
Yeah I really really feel it for Rosi Its f***ked I really feel sorry for him/her. I nearly ended my life as well, but the depression lifted and the emotions come back and they are really angry at invega. Please dont give up people I nearly gave up.
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When did they come back?
 
Back to the gym (as routine) after a brief respite. Had a few bumps along the way. Near to being able to exert the same amount of strength as pre-Risperdal Consta and Invega Sustenna. Not quite in the shape that I want to be, but getting there nonetheless. Seeing as how these steps lately are less gradual and there is more of a rising incline to what I can do today vs yesterday, I'd say I'm nearing that point of being fully healed. But there is always more work to do.

The rest of you can make it, I'm sure. It's a matter of what needs to be done and how you do it. Take risks if you need to. This may be one of the hardest things a person has to endure, but you've made it this far. Don't give up.
 
Rosi71 said:
When did you have a imprufement?
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An accurate time table would be almost impossible to give. I've been feeling improvements all throughout the year, but it's like that saying about taking two steps forward and one step back.

When I started feeling improvement was close to the two year mark (last injection being May of 2015)... so very early this year.
How I started feeling improvement was a matter of working for it every day that I could. Even some of the days (granted not most of them, but a few) that I didn't want to do anything; I learned to force myself out of that mode.

I still go through long-rough periods of having low motivation and dark days. But these have been been going faster... as well as getting easier.
 
Hey guys, its been a minute, haven't posted in over a year.. I gotta say it does get better with time. Couple of things. I got 234 156 and 117 in Feb Mar Apr of 2016 so its been exactly 17 months since my last shot.. I was actually doing better with sexual side effects 13 and 14 months in than I am now because i was living in a sober living house and I was clean for over 2 months. when you don't smoke weed or use alcohol you allow your brain to reset its dopamergenic properties.. basically the area of your brain that regulates dopamine I think its the hypothalamus but thats irrelevant and I know no one cares, lol. Basically, long story short. you will feel better around month 10 and significantly better in the 4-6 months that follow. Try and stay away from all drugs and alcohol. hydrate, eat healthy, and learn about exercise and take it very seriously, its the only thing that keep me from losing my shit. Honest to god, once you've been shot up with INvega your brain doesn't operate the same your hormones get fucked up its a fact I'm seeing the commercials for lawsuits about guys experiencing gynocomastia where the commercial is like has your son experience BREAST growth on risperdal or invega. well call now... etc. dont take steroids dont take viagra. relax, remain calm be patient and let the shit clear out. take an occasional adhd med so and live a sober life, its the only way out. :)
 
invegauser said:
@dirtyinvega: both of them breaking down/metabolizing AP's quicker i've heard of but never found proof of, at least not to my liking. i think it speeds up your metabolism by giving it a boost for sure which in turn burns more cells from within. that's about as close i can confirm your inquiry. nicotine i never recommend while on any psych med as i see it's best to regain homeostasis by cutting out drugs of any kind and letting the brain get back to a place it can heal from or center itself quicker. nicotine is basically an agitator and would most likely upset some aspects of the healing process or in repairing receptors.

caffeine as far as tea and coffee go i think benefit those suffering from the poison. it is a belief of mine that natural caffeine has a sobering effect on many uppers (similar to a recent post where i talked of niacin scrubbing or burning crap out of your system) and invega/xeplion is one in it's own rights. it also helps the manic/super almost uncontrollable manic like behavior to be subdued more easily with a calming effect. that's not to say that tea hasn't been found to help with antioxidants and other positive effects. the closer to the source you get the better and by this i mean less ingredients added, none of that drive thru coffee that is so popular today and non bottled stuff. as far as taking it goes the effects of coffee might be too strong during some phases of the healing process and that is why i recommend tea. it is less intense. i used to drink 2-3 cups of coffee per day and right now if i drink one it will overload my system. for now i alternate between once cup of water and one cup of tea throughout the day and it has been a big help. drink which ever one you can handle but know your limits.

on a personal note i quit smoking cigarettes before invega was forced on me. shortly after i started again and it has been one of the few things no matter what i do i cannot stop. i tried everything and i have successfully quit in the past and tried using that same method to no avail. it is one of the aspects of myself i have no control over. i really don't wish to smoke anymore but unless i go out when it is time to i suffer greatly for it. i have noticed from time to time it has done more harm than good in the healing process like adding to stress/anxiety among other things.

on a semi interesting note there is a receptor that has been talked about before in the thread called the nicotine or nicotinic acetylcholine receptor and has been of debate whether or not this has some influence or vice versa with the poison. the poison and nicotine both target the central nervous system and we were trying to find links between the two in hopes of finding an antidote. we like to exhaust all options here you could say.

hope this helps.

fyi: @Rosi71 is a lady. we all have handles that are hard to tell some details about us (me: over 20 under 50/male/u.s.a.), i know everyone meant no disrespect and she appreciates your kind words and sympathies. other times it's easier to tell with the way ppl talk. she is from germany as are a couple sufferers here are. we got u.k., northern europe, south america, australia in the house and quiet a few of us are from north america and not just u.s.a but also canada eh. if i missed anyone, no disrespect. go ahead and leave a shout out with your next post if you like. by my guesstimate we have 10 or less women posting and who knows how many reading in on the thread as guests. we are all human and having a hard time. btw there are some transgenders on this site, some are upfront about it and some are not. they deserve to be here and be treated with respect just as much as anyone. one of them i have spoken with in another thread, he is quiet intelligent. the net is still a place of freedom.
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Thanks for the reply and the insight . I truly believe been HUGE smoker ( Electronic Cigarettes) and high levels of nicotine up woods of (80mg Nicotine aday is breaking the dirty invega down quicker - I have been told that if you smoke you have to be on higher dose of antipsychotics as it breaks it down much quicker and you can get major breakthroughs.
 
iridescentblack said:
An accurate time table would be almost impossible to give. I've been feeling improvements all throughout the year, but it's like that saying about taking two steps forward and one step back.When I started feeling improvement was close to the two year mark (last injection being May of 2015)... so very early this year.How I started feeling improvement was a matter of working for it every day that I could. Even some of the days (granted not most of them, but a few) that I didn't want to do anything; I learned to force myself out of that mode.I still go through long-rough periods of having low motivation and dark days. But these have been been going faster... as well as getting easier.
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How many shots did you get? Was you also misdiagnosed?
 
dirtyinvega said:
I have a mate (Australian here) that has Celiac disease and he was so sick for years into he found out he was (gluten intolerance) and he got better really really quickly after he gave up the gluten. I blame everything on the Invega. I was a happy person into the Invega injections come along and it turned my life upside down. But the main thing is I'm over the constant diarrhoea, throwing up and all the withdrawals - but my mind hasn't healed yet. But I'm improving daily and the depression is lifting. :)But the sad truth is that (Invega) is a really really a dirty drug just like Risperidone. Im lucky I live in a country that has wonderful health care and I have been provided with all the support needed to get back on track and my psychiatrist is really sorry he done this to me. But I dont blame him. Its all the invega fault.
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Hy!! When did you have your first improvement? Was you also misdiagnosed? Is your life a little bit beautiful again?
 
It makes me wonder. I see people around here being pretty articulate and many still function with jobs and all. Especially invegauser with his very long posts. Did neither of you face cognitive impairment of some sort? I sure am. Big time. I can't study anymore. It's like my mind is dull all the time and I'm closed to new information. I have issues with articulation, with understanding things, my mind is suddenly obsessed with how things are made, something that never bothered me before, and it's just showing me how stupid I am for not understanding how and oh man there are so many things I can't understand how they were made, not in the slightest. It's not like I'm genuinely interested in how things are made or work, that's the twisted part. My mind fixates on things I couldn't care less about. I also can't navigate like I used to, can't understand how I found my way pre-Invega. This world totally terrifies me nowadays, I really can't function whatsoever. Technology also scares the shit out of me. Suddenly everything tech seems so complex and unreachable. I feel really, but really stupid, and it's not just a feeling... I think I literally become dumb due to this poison. Reaching the 5th month, despite how people report recoveries, I feel like there are things that will never be restored.
 
Wie konnte ich mich nur als Mutter eines kleinen Kindes auf diese Spritze einlassen, obwohl ich mich sehr gesund gefühlt habe? Ich bereue es unendlich!! Doch niemand kann die Zeit zurückdrehen!!
 
Rosi71 said:
Hy!! When did you have your first improvement? Was you also misdiagnosed? Is your life a little bit beautiful again?
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its really hard to put a time on when I first noticed improvements ( That's why I say about 150 days) that when I noticed massive improvements. No I wasn't misdiagnosed I truly have Schizophrenia no doubt about it. I still take antipsychotics Abilify (20mg) and (80mg) of Prozac. My life is great as it can be I'm just so happy the depression is lifting.

Edit: We have this awesome support program in Australia called the NDIS. Where they do everything for you when your sick. It saved my life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Disability_Insurance_Scheme
 
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Nicotinic acid is the stuff you want to improve mental fogginess & increase your alertness. AFAIK it is also called B3/Niacin, but is more effective. I took it in the form of no-dose plus (bought at a pharmacy) and was fantastic -- I was doing a 24 hour drive last week and was pretty chatty/awake the whole time.. I don't recommend no-dose though, as it contains a heap of other sh&&t, but i'm sure nicotinic acid can be found. Orthomolecular psychiatrist prescribed it to me :)

@dirtyinvega, hello fellow Aussie! are you on a community treatment order by any chance? Think QLD calls them ITO's if that's where you're from. I was on centrelink for about a year using dr exemptions, but am now with a DES provider. I'm not interested in working whilstever the government forces me to take poison; as far as im concerned they can pay me a wage to receive it. fuck them.interesting perspective you have shared on the drugs though, thanks

Hope everyone has a great day :)
 
ZombieMode said:
Nicotinic acid is the stuff you want to improve mental fogginess & increase your alertness. AFAIK it is also called B3/Niacin, but is more effective. I took it in the form of no-dose plus (bought at a pharmacy) and was fantastic -- I was doing a 24 hour drive last week and was pretty chatty/awake the whole time.. I don't recommend no-dose though, as it contains a heap of other sh&&t, but i'm sure nicotinic acid can be found. Orthomolecular psychiatrist prescribed it to me :)

@dirtyinvega, hello fellow Aussie! are you on a community treatment order by any chance? Think QLD calls them ITO's if that's where you're from. I was on centrelink for about a year using dr exemptions, but am now with a DES provider. I'm not interested in working whilstever the government forces me to take poison; as far as im concerned they can pay me a wage to receive it. fuck them.interesting perspective you have shared on the drugs though, thanks

Hope everyone has a great day :)
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Heya Mate. :) No i'm not on community treatment order ATM. But they keep a very close eye on me lol.

(ACT Community Health) held me against my will last year for 6 weeks worse feeling ever. I just wanted to break out of there. Are you still on the Invega? Honestly check out the NDIS mate. Its been a life saver for me.

I have only just returned to work after 5 months off because of this dirty drug.
 
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Decisive said:
I know what you mean when you say that you don't care about anything I felt the same way before, but it's temporary! I got 4 shots, ans yes after 10 months off I recovered my emotions, motivation and cognitive abilities
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Did you have schizophrenia or were you misdiagnosed? Which dose had your shots?
 
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