So, in the past I've been addicted to amphetamines, marijuana (still am save for abstaining a couple days before my rehab UA) opioids, cigs and very heavily on benzos which I'm tapering right now.
ANYWAY, let's get to the bottom of this.
You could call me a chipper as I've never let opioids slide into continuous daily use and it's not uncommon for me to have at least a month between uses when I don't have a decent-sized bag of whatever opioid.
However, recently I received a pack of 5g O-DSMT (RC, active metabolite of Tramadol with significantly more classical effects, around 0.5x morphine potency) and my dumb ass binged for 3 days thinking I could get away with no withdrawal.
Nope, woke up in bed on the 4th day with "moderate" withdrawals - severe RLS and runny nose, pretty bad muscle and bones aches, pupils fully dilated... Isn't this odd considering I hadn't used any true opioid since NYE (~850mg morphine equivalent in a short lasting RC - AP-238 - over 3 days, NONE to MILD WD's) and only red vein Kratom every 3-4 days in the 10-14g dose range?
Amount used was 2.3g, so around 1150mg morphine equivalent over 3 days, I caved on the 2nd day of WD and used again for 2 days with smaller doses and now am at day 2 of WD, with 10g of Kratom absolutely blowing away all of my symptoms.
So, my questions are:
- Is it normal for heavy (nodding all day pretty much) but very short use to cause pretty bad WDs?
- Is doing it strictly 2x a week for a few weeks going to keep me at mild WD's when I stop? I used to do 400mg Tramadol on such a schedule for 2 months and only faced mild WD's afterwards
- How much after WD's stop am I in the clear to use again?
- Is it the Kratom taken recreationally that rose my tolerance so damn high? On my first O-DSMT binge (Dec 1st) before ever having used Kratom, a 1g bag along with 0.5g of aforementioned AP-238 totalling about 1.5g morphine lasted me 6 days, with doses on the last day being lower than doses on the first day of my latest one.
Since then I've been using red veun Kratom every 3-4 days at 10-14g.
Regards
ANYWAY, let's get to the bottom of this.
You could call me a chipper as I've never let opioids slide into continuous daily use and it's not uncommon for me to have at least a month between uses when I don't have a decent-sized bag of whatever opioid.
However, recently I received a pack of 5g O-DSMT (RC, active metabolite of Tramadol with significantly more classical effects, around 0.5x morphine potency) and my dumb ass binged for 3 days thinking I could get away with no withdrawal.
Nope, woke up in bed on the 4th day with "moderate" withdrawals - severe RLS and runny nose, pretty bad muscle and bones aches, pupils fully dilated... Isn't this odd considering I hadn't used any true opioid since NYE (~850mg morphine equivalent in a short lasting RC - AP-238 - over 3 days, NONE to MILD WD's) and only red vein Kratom every 3-4 days in the 10-14g dose range?
Amount used was 2.3g, so around 1150mg morphine equivalent over 3 days, I caved on the 2nd day of WD and used again for 2 days with smaller doses and now am at day 2 of WD, with 10g of Kratom absolutely blowing away all of my symptoms.
So, my questions are:
- Is it normal for heavy (nodding all day pretty much) but very short use to cause pretty bad WDs?
- Is doing it strictly 2x a week for a few weeks going to keep me at mild WD's when I stop? I used to do 400mg Tramadol on such a schedule for 2 months and only faced mild WD's afterwards
- How much after WD's stop am I in the clear to use again?
- Is it the Kratom taken recreationally that rose my tolerance so damn high? On my first O-DSMT binge (Dec 1st) before ever having used Kratom, a 1g bag along with 0.5g of aforementioned AP-238 totalling about 1.5g morphine lasted me 6 days, with doses on the last day being lower than doses on the first day of my latest one.
Since then I've been using red veun Kratom every 3-4 days at 10-14g.
Regards
