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Misc "Chem-sex", MDMA vs Methamphetamine?

JohnBoy2000

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Crystal methamphetamine and ecstasy differ in relation to unsafe sex among young gay men - PubMed

Crystal and ecstasy are used in the same social venues but differ markedly in relation to sexual risk behaviour.
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I'd looked at this one study which examined homosexual men, seemingly reporting methamphetamine as causing greater incidence of risk associated sexual behaviour.

Both drugs appeared however to increase sexual drive and appetite.

This was raised in some other meth related thread in Basic Drug discussion, where dudes claimed that meth was the "ultimate" sex drug and they'd prefer to take meth then sit about masturbating for 16 hours straight, rather than spend time with a woman.

MDMA is typically the drug of choice when it comes socialization, naturally being termed the "love drug".

Is it comparable to methamphetamine in the aforementioned respect, and some dude may take a tablet, then spend the rest of the day beating off?

As in, does it yield a similar sex-oriented outcome?

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How does one compare to the other in this capacity, basically?
 
No, mdma doesn't really even make me horny like stimulants do, and certainly not in the type of way meth would.
 
It does for me, mdma made me quite horny on a couple occasions but the stim dick was like 10 times worse on mdma then on meth. I suppose it's down to individual reactions, it's also possible the mdma I had contained active cuts though the way it felt + timeline suggested to me that it was good mdma.
 
I have "technical difficulties" on MDMA. Very much the opposite on MA.
 
Meth definitely has MDMA beat. I do get horny on MDMA but it’s different, more set n setting reliant.

Now MDA is different.. Sex on MDA is otherworldly.

-GC
 
MDMA is better for actual sex with your partner imo and a different "type" of sex. Less pure lust, more lovey. Meth or regular amphetamine is better for masturbation and animalistic sex ime.
 
I only tried mda once and I tried to force a wank session, got everything ready beforehand, but once it kicked in I just couldn't really focus on the task. Ended up walking down to the gas station and remember experiencing some paranoia about my surroundings, like an eerie feeling I was being followed or watched from a distance.

Didn't really enjoy the experience much, either I respond to mda badly, just had an off day or that 'mda' was crap. I'd like to try it again at some point though, it's been many years now since my last mdxx type exp... like atleast a decade if not more

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Meth. Yet I find certain synthetic cathinones more prosexual than even meth. N-ethylhexedrone, N-ethylhexedrone and alpha-PHP for example. Mainly when combined with benzos.

The most prosexual drug I came across might be 4F-PHP which is interesting because otherwise it is a horrible drug with no euphoria. Sort of like an anxiety attack in powder form. Its adrenergic qualities cause a strange tactile rush that makes it unusually prosexual. Horrible stuff though.
 
negrogesic said:
Meth. Yet I find certain synthetic cathinones more prosexual than even meth. N-ethylhexedrone, N-ethylhexedrone and alpha-PHP for example.
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Yeah, cathinones. I fouind mephedrone/4-MMC more prosexual than MA come to think of it. Didn't try any any of the hexedrones though. When mephedrone first came out it could be had very cheaply so of course I got a bunch, and would spend extended periods of time injecting it and getting into (increasingly perverse) pornography until the morning came and my dick was more than sore. Not good especially when it comes time to pay the piper, not to mention I don't agree with porn to begin with. Drugs of this nature are good at removing scruples though. It should go without saying that I wouldn't recommend doing this. This class of drugs in particular has some nasty metabolites, way worse than MA when it comes to cardiovascular issues especially.
 
MDMA doesn't give me anywhere near the same level of desire for sex or risky behaviour, though I have done risky sex related things on it.

Also find it impossible to finish on MDMA, but not always the case.

Meth is debauchery in crystal form...
 
MDPV_Psychosis said:
I only tried mda once and I tried to force a wank session, got everything ready beforehand, but once it kicked in I just couldn't really focus on the task. Ended up walking down to the gas station and remember experiencing some paranoia about my surroundings, like an eerie feeling I was being followed or watched from a distance.

Didn't really enjoy the experience much, either I respond to mda badly, just had an off day or that 'mda' was crap. I'd like to try it again at some point though, it's been many years now since my last mdxx type exp... like atleast a decade if not more

edit meant to quote @G_Chem last post
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MDA can vary quite a bit depending on purity. I personally don’t like it unless it’s of the utmost purity, whereas while still important with MDMA isn’t AS important. I’ve tried batches (impure “sass”) that left me unimpressed.

Hoping I come across some this summer cuz I just went through the last of mine :(

-GC
 
negrogesic said:
Meth. Yet I find certain synthetic cathinones more prosexual than even meth. N-ethylhexedrone, N-ethylhexedrone and alpha-PHP for example. Mainly when combined with benzos.

The most prosexual drug I came across might be 4F-PHP which is interesting because otherwise it is a horrible drug with no euphoria. Sort of like an anxiety attack in powder form. Its adrenergic qualities cause a strange tactile rush that makes it unusually prosexual. Horrible stuff though.
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I don’t find NEP, Hexen, aPHP and all amphetamines (except meth which I havent tried) sexual at all actually.
3-MMC and 4-MMC are a whole other conversation though
 
negrogesic said:
Meth. Yet I find certain synthetic cathinones more prosexual than even meth. N-ethylhexedrone, N-ethylhexedrone and alpha-PHP for example. Mainly when combined with benzos.

The most prosexual drug I came across might be 4F-PHP which is interesting because otherwise it is a horrible drug with no euphoria. Sort of like an anxiety attack in powder form. Its adrenergic qualities cause a strange tactile rush that makes it unusually prosexual. Horrible stuff though.
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Yea this stuff was pretty damn prosexual for me too though not particularly great otherwise, it was weird though it seemed to wear off pretty quickly for me. I'd vape ungodly amounts and then be ready to fall asleep a couple hours later. I was pretty deep into pyro addiction at the time though so might have just been my tolerance.

The stuff I had was, by far, the stinkiest cum smelling pyro I've ever vaped by far. It was insane how pungent. I remember taking numerous massive hits in the garage one afternoon. My wife walked in and started gagging then couldn't stop laughing despite being very angry discovering like that that I was using again "I can't believe you'd be willing to smoke something that smells like that, you are fucking crazy."

Actually, now i think about it I'm not sure if it was 4f-pvp or 4f-php, it's been too long and my memory of that time is a bit hazy...
 
MDPV_Psychosis said:
Yea this stuff was pretty damn prosexual for me too though not particularly great otherwise, it was weird though it seemed to wear off pretty quickly for me. I'd vape ungodly amounts and then be ready to fall asleep a couple hours later. I was pretty deep into pyro addiction at the time though so might have just been my tolerance.

The stuff I had was, by far, the stinkiest cum smelling pyro I've ever vaped by far. It was insane how pungent. I remember taking numerous massive hits in the garage one afternoon. My wife walked in and started gagging then couldn't stop laughing despite being very angry discovering like that that I was using again "I can't believe you'd be willing to smoke something that smells like that, you are fucking crazy."

Actually, now i think about it I'm not sure if it was 4f-pvp or 4f-php, it's been too long and my memory of that time is a bit hazy...
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Yeah it wore off very fast (fortunately). I remember smoking some and feeling horrible and just watching the clock, waiting for it to wear off. After like 80 minutes of anxiety i felt much better.
 
I remember when binging on MDMA I would go home with a girl (or often multiple girls) from a club every night and then just talk and maybe cuddle. I don’t think sex ever happened, and in any case it made me impotent even when I tried to masturbate on it when alone. With meth on the other hand, I’d often end up in a brothel booking out the whole staff roster and with the aid of viagra ploughing my way through the whole team over 6 or 8 hours. Sometimes twice. I think of MDMA and Meth like chalk and cheese.
 
G_Chem said:
Meth definitely has MDMA beat. I do get horny on MDMA but it’s different, more set n setting reliant.

Now MDA is different.. Sex on MDA is otherworldly.

-GC
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I concur, I have never found actual sex as attractive as talking and playing and cuddling on MDMA. I don't think it was stimdick in the sense of too much vasoconstriction, I think I just found the carnal, mechanical part of sex to be less interesting than rolling off my face with someone.

Yet, when I would get what we called "Molly" in that time/place, we understood we were getting MDA, and it usually came in powder form (fine crystals) instead of pressed tablets or capsules. It was de mode to snort your Molly, taking about four lines to take a whole dose, taken about fifteen minutes apart, and fucking like animals the whole time. After an hour, sometimes two (taking a second dose close to the first), laying in a puddle of unusually voluminous secretions, I found a place pretty much like an MDMA high but more steady, and I wouldn't go back to sex again without redosing, which I could only do so many times before I start feeling out of control.
 
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