First time poster here. I usually can find so much info here I don't need to post. Somebody PLEASE help me with this. Most of you guys are so good at this.
I've been on and off opiates for the last 7 years. 5 years ago I got some subutex off the street. Didn't know what I was doing went into precipitated W / D for about 5 days just kept taking more subutex then about day 6 or 7 I felt like I saw the light at the end of the tunnel and felt AMAZING. I only made it this far in precip because I was listening to idiots off the street and had no idea that I could reverse it.
Well 2 years go by and my stupid ass gets back on oxycodone 30 mg sniffed. Got up to about 450 - 600 mg a day. Through the last 4 - 5 years I have gotten clean for a week or two and back on my subs. I would usually wait 24 hours take some like 4 mg sub and smoke some chronic and then the next day I would feel good but W/D came in waves for a 3 - 4 days but we're manageable and after 4 days or so I would start to feel great.
Now I've done it 3 times where I just use chronic and benzos to sleep and i won't feel full W/D but I feel far from good or ok. This lasts for 5 - 6 days. Maybe it would last longer but that's the longest I've made it. If I take the subutex on day 5 I go into immediate precip W/D.
Some might say well if your on day 6 and don't feel that bad why don't you just wait it out? I don't feel that bad as in precip but it still comes in waves. By day 6 the benzos don't make me sleep so I'm up all night I feel in a haze it's not fun but it's not close to ok.
The sub used to make me feel so great after the short W/D now I feel like I've ruined it for myself.
I recently read about cross tapering i.e. The Bernese Method. I'm considering that.
I did my last sniff of 180 mg oxycodone last night at 830. I feel ok. If I lay on the couch too long I'll start to sweat. But like the last hundred times come 9 PM I'll start to feel a little shitty and will usually smoke then take a couple bars around 1130 and sleep till 5 or 6. Then I just feel like a zombie for the next 5 or 6 days.
Last week I got to day 4 started feeling pretty bad and took 3 - 4 mg subutex and within 15 mins I was in full holy shit precip.
Is this the kindling effect?
Has anyone tried the cross taper i.e. Bernese Method?
Anyone have any idea what's going on with me?
I want to be clean. But I also want to be on subs again so after a few days I can feel normal and have energy. I just cannnot handle the precip W/D.
Sorry for the long post. Any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
I've been on and off opiates for the last 7 years. 5 years ago I got some subutex off the street. Didn't know what I was doing went into precipitated W / D for about 5 days just kept taking more subutex then about day 6 or 7 I felt like I saw the light at the end of the tunnel and felt AMAZING. I only made it this far in precip because I was listening to idiots off the street and had no idea that I could reverse it.
Well 2 years go by and my stupid ass gets back on oxycodone 30 mg sniffed. Got up to about 450 - 600 mg a day. Through the last 4 - 5 years I have gotten clean for a week or two and back on my subs. I would usually wait 24 hours take some like 4 mg sub and smoke some chronic and then the next day I would feel good but W/D came in waves for a 3 - 4 days but we're manageable and after 4 days or so I would start to feel great.
Now I've done it 3 times where I just use chronic and benzos to sleep and i won't feel full W/D but I feel far from good or ok. This lasts for 5 - 6 days. Maybe it would last longer but that's the longest I've made it. If I take the subutex on day 5 I go into immediate precip W/D.
Some might say well if your on day 6 and don't feel that bad why don't you just wait it out? I don't feel that bad as in precip but it still comes in waves. By day 6 the benzos don't make me sleep so I'm up all night I feel in a haze it's not fun but it's not close to ok.
The sub used to make me feel so great after the short W/D now I feel like I've ruined it for myself.
I recently read about cross tapering i.e. The Bernese Method. I'm considering that.
I did my last sniff of 180 mg oxycodone last night at 830. I feel ok. If I lay on the couch too long I'll start to sweat. But like the last hundred times come 9 PM I'll start to feel a little shitty and will usually smoke then take a couple bars around 1130 and sleep till 5 or 6. Then I just feel like a zombie for the next 5 or 6 days.
Last week I got to day 4 started feeling pretty bad and took 3 - 4 mg subutex and within 15 mins I was in full holy shit precip.
Is this the kindling effect?
Has anyone tried the cross taper i.e. Bernese Method?
Anyone have any idea what's going on with me?
I want to be clean. But I also want to be on subs again so after a few days I can feel normal and have energy. I just cannnot handle the precip W/D.
Sorry for the long post. Any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!