Mental Health Bipolar Disorder Mega Thread

I don't have my own story of bipolar disorder to share, so I will wander off to the anxiety and ADD thread soon.

My s/o, however, does. He was diagnosed bipolar II well before I met him. His mother is bipolar I and is institutionalized. He is a brilliant writer with an English degree who would love to be in a master's level program to write professionally. His day job is that of a computer programmer for a university. Well before I met him, he was married to a psychologist, with whom he has two sons and shared custody. I love the children as though they were my own. I will take my own rant about her to the appropriate place, if at all.

My dude is having a terrible mixed episode that started yesterday. He is with his kids right now, and I'm going over to his place after he drops them off at their mother's. I was going to go over last night, but neither of us feels right about having sleepovers with the children around just yet, and due to bridge closures in the area, I wouldn't have been able to get home.

I'd like to know what I can do to support him. He is not a dependent person; he does talk openly about his conditions, at least with me, family, and close friends. He says he just wants to lay in bed and be moody. I think I am doing the right thing, as when he is manic, he has a history of self-harm and compulsive gambling. He agrees that I should be there in case he does anything he should not. Oddly, he's not much of a drinker and won't touch anything aside from the occasional beer or medicinal pot (he has in the past; drug use is not his thing). As with a couple other folks in TDS, he has a condition that causes his vertebrae to continue to fuse in places where they should bend. He is in constant pain, and he doesn't like the way pain pills make him feel, so he takes only ibuprofen. The pain clearly affects his mood adversely. It is going to take a team of doctors to get him to the point where he is able to be really active - and a partner at his side to make sure they 'don't fuck him up worse'.

About 6 weeks ago, he decided he didn't like the way lithium made him feel. He was taking 2.4g (yes, you read that correctly) PER DAY, in addition to 10 mg Abilify, 350 mg Wellbutrin XR, and 60 mg Adderall (as he's also got adult ADHD). He did a lightning-fast taper against medical advice and everything changed after that. The light in his beautiful eyes was back at first, but the other day he just looked dead inside. Our relationship has not been terribly adversely affected beyond that I am insistent that he find a competent psychiatrist and he doesn't want to take psych meds. Unless they're Adderall. Oh, he's fine with that. :|

He obsessively reads about the side effects of mood stabilizers (well, he was married to a psychologist :|) and he refuses treatment. He will not get treatment from anyone other than the psychiatric nurse who feeds him his Adderall every month or so. As he has had a manic episode, SSRIs are totally out of the question - they're contraindicated, and Prozac was what he was on when he had his manic episode. I don't believe he has tried Lamictal, nor do I believe he would because of the potential allergic reaction that another poster mentioned above in the form of rash. I suggested that once, as it works for a LOT of people who are bipolar; it has changed their lives completely. He pooh-poohed that immediately.

I want to respect my boyfriend's desire to be off meds. We have known each other since late winter; didn't become involved until spring, and we've taken it slowly for obvious reasons. I hope he reaches the conclusion that he can't do this alone, and that he will talk to a psychiatrist fucking immediately. As he has a dental appointment, that he cannot reschedule (tooth crown), for tomorrow, it will have to be Tuesday. I will be staying with him aside from work until then, and as I make my own schedule, at least that is not a problem. I know what would happen otherwise. :(

I just want my boyfriend to get better. :( I don't want to see him manic or sad. He is worth it as a human being even if he were not my partner.

To the bipolar folks: much love. May your days be the right kind of happy and your nights awaken to happier days. Any insight that anyone has to offer would be greatly appreciated. <3

If he is manic now getting him to voluntarily seek treatment may be pretty difficult. When you are manic or worse mixed state you really aren't thinking rationally and it can be damn near impossible to reason to someone when they are like that. As far as medications go i would say that out of all the medications i take lamictal is the only one i get no side effects from at all. I have never gotten one noticeable side effect from lamictal besides stable moods since i started taking it in 2007. It has literally been a life saver for me. The lamictal rash can happen with other medications as well (tegretol aka carbamazepine is one example) it's just that lamictal get's a bad rep for it. But if you up your dose safely the chances of getting the dreaded rash are pretty slim. It is certainly worth the risk if it turns out to work well for him. One size does not fit all when it comes to medications so it may not work for him but there are other meds he could try as well. Lamictal is one that is one of the only true mood stabilizers (lithium being the other one) as the rest such as depakote, carbmazepine, etc are just anti-manic drugs. Lamictal also has a pretty low side effects profile and it usually doesn't require blood tests so that's a major plus as well.

If he is manic now getting him to a psychiatrist or some kind of medical help would be the best idea by far. The faster you get it under control the easier it is to get it under control. Mania also is not pleasant or atleast not for me and manic states are hell on earth so that is one reason why i always take my medications now.
 
you know you are bipolar when ...

its hard to write this thread when you had a major europhic motivation to 3 minutes ago. you drink all day even though you know it will make you cry. you take amphetamines to make yourself more crazy. you blow Dex because you think it will help you be alticulate but know the opposite will happen. aka now. I can't live any more! please help Me. I know this is likley the only place on the internet where someone might be able to help me. BTW I am under the care of multiple doctors and. have tired so many meds. so telling me I need medical attention or whatever is useless. I. know. people here can responsed in a real way and not.just say that to me
anyway.

bipolar II rapid cycling is me for sure. my life can't possibly last more then another year.

I'm sorry that I'm just going insane.
 
Have you tried meditating? It can really help you focus your energy into one direction, for the better. :)

I would really avoid alcohol in the future, but if you are prescribed medication, you can always take more later, but once you take it, you can't undo the effects. So please be careful, and be safe.
 
i dont know what to do.

tried a lot of mood stabilisers with shitty intolerable side effects.
my doctor has admitted he has no idea what to try me on next
and he cant get me in to see a shrink because my bipolar isnt too extreme.

i was thinking of exagerating my symptoms so i could see a psychitrist, but dont
want to get put in a psyc ward if i over do it...

plus i have chronic pain in my wrist that sucks and is fucking with my moods. (seeing
a pain specialist, but he doesnt help much)

thoughts? suggestions?

the meds ive tried are lithium, lamotrigine, quetiapine, epilim and ziprasadone.
currently on celebrex, gabapentin, DHC, and my PRN meds are tramadol, lorazepam and zopiclone.
oh and im seeing a psychologist.
 
[I don't have BPD, for the record.]

Your symptoms are extreme enough to have been on all those medications... but not extreme enough to see a psychiatrist? That seems really ridiculous. I would think if you could see a GP and a psychologist you'd be "allowed" to see a psychiatrist also. Kind of baffling. Anyways, I'm thinking a GP is probably not as qualified to recommend medications as a psychiatrist would be. So obviously seeing a psychiatrist who understands the various medications better is something you have to get done. Exaggerating symptoms may not be the way to do it though. Don't know how much you're using the 3 drugs you labeled as PRN, but I think sometimes with BPD it's necessary to be extra conservative with the chemicals you use. And it's especially important to pay attention to triggering thought patterns or situations. It may be positive to try and get to the point where you're using as few chemicals as possible, outside of the necessary mood-stabilizers, or dopamine reuptake enhancer drugs, or whatever is prescribed specifically for BPD. Of course all the basic suggestions apply... meditation, reducing stress, diet, exercise, etc etc.

In short... I would suggest two things mainly... 1) Be super conservative in the number of medications (drugs) you're taking so that you're able to accurately experiment with what works and what doesn't for BPD. As in, reduce the number of variables as much as possible (this is hard with chronic pain though I know). 2) Try to see a psychiatrist as soon as possible. It doesn't seem like your GP understands psych drugs as well as he could. Maybe be more demanding with him about seeing a psychiatrist? It doesn't seem right that your BPD is considered not severe enough to see a psychiatrist.

*Guess I should say BP or BD from now on, not to be confused with Borderline Personality Disorder...
 
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Youve been on all those meds and you feel this bad and they still don't think you have bipolar bad enough to warrant seeing a psychiatrist? That is really fucking stupid. I have been on lamotrigine, seroquel and epilem (called epival here) and i have been seeing a psychiatrist since 2006. I have managed to get it under control and i was at the point where i though nothing would help me but i guess i got lucky. Right now i take 200mg's of lamotrigine a day, 300mg's of bupropion and olanzapine or some other anti-psychotic such as quetiapine or risperidone if i need it.

Don't give up hope on finding something that works and try and get more help for this.
 
yeah its a crazy system huh.
ive had 4 psychiatrist referals declined this year!

i think im just going to tell my doctor that my pain is making me suicidal, which is a big exageration but meh, im sick of being in physical pain all the time and it gets worse when im depressed. would be cool to see a doctor that takes my pain and bipolar seriously!
sucks being relient on sleeping meds because im either manic or depressed or in pain.

thanks for the hints and tips! much appreciated.
 
lol i'd give everything i own to be manic depressive

WTF, why? Sure, you have some hellova good time now and then, but also hardcore anxiety, never knowing what to expect emotion-wise, driving your close ones also insane or, worse, just alienating each and every friend you once might have had. Paying for the good times with debilitating guilt, weeks of depression and inability to do the easiest of everyday tasks and making up explanations for coworkers and anyone else who you don't want to share the whole crazy thing with. Throw some drugs and alcohol to the whole mess and that's when the shit really hits the fan. Like, the part of your brain that deals with decent reasoning is shut off, permanently. Knowing that you're not stupid or anything, but not being able to realize any of that potential because of the damn emotional rollercoaster and nonexistent executive function.

Ok, as a side effect you might be a deep thinker, be able to read other people well and connect with them and have bouts of real creativity, but the meds that are supposed to make you kind of normal make you fat, slow, stupid and who knows what in the long term.

Believe me, it's overrated.
 
omg i got some of my old psychitrist notes today and it seems i might have borderline personality disorder.
no one ever told me this!!!! my doctor says it its mentioned all thru my notes.
add that on top of bipolar and chronic pain. goddamn.

my psychologist said last time i saw him and said he can do diagnosis if i want. totally getting that done.

arrgghh stupid doctors not communicating!!!
ok rant over.
 
^ yeah sometimes i get words stuck in my head too.

is this something special to us bipolars?
 
Don't know, it happens to me, too. So annoying. The words themselves change, often around a theme. Last time it was names of pharmaceuticals.
 
^^ I appreciate that is your opinion but it's not wise for people with mental disorders to smoke weed, or to use any other psychactive substances other than those that they are prescribed. So, while I totally respect that weed helps YOU, I would not advise people with bipolar disorder to smoke weed.
 
^^ I appreciate that is your opinion but it's not wise for people with mental disorders to smoke weed, or to use any other psychactive substances other than those that they are prescribed. So, while I totally respect that weed helps YOU, I would not advise people with bipolar disorder to smoke weed.

This.

For some reason, although I am not bipolar myself, I tend to attract people that are. Almost all of the bipolars I have met like cannabis a LOT... one in particular probably smokes 1/4 oz per week (!). He cycles rapidly, has mixed episodes, and when he is manic he mostly presents with problematic behaviors. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that he is constantly stoned? I wonder if he has figured that out yet. I'll ask.

I cannot think of one bipolar person I've ever met that I would consider stupid, and I have also noticed that they are very creative thinkers. I suppose another benefit to having bipolar friends is that when I get depressed/introverted (I have major depressive disorder among other things) they always seem to be the one to get me out of the house and help me be more interactive.
 
I'm going to try to sober up from everything, including weed, so I can see what happens and possibly see if my mind fits into one of these "disorders". I've experienced mania before, and psychosis (manic psychosis possibly?), but the shitty part is its so hard to tell if I'm in either while in either... :( I definitely get those words stuck in my head, seems just like what both of you described. I really wouldn't know where to start, other than not smoking weed or doing drugs for a while and make myself remember how much cannabis actually does stabilize my mind, along with other effects.
 
^^ I appreciate that is your opinion but it's not wise for people with mental disorders to smoke weed, or to use any other psychactive substances other than those that they are prescribed. So, while I totally respect that weed helps YOU, I would not advise people with bipolar disorder to smoke weed.

I second this. If we have mental issues, then recreational drugs just add to the problem. I view rec drug use as a luxury. When we have current emotional or mental imbalances, we need to eliminate the variables that exacerbate those issues. Often enough, the drugs are a cause of our emotional/mental instabilities and often counteract with medications that we are prescribed. So many of us hide our drug use from the medical professionals that prescribe us our meds without even thinking that they may prescribe something more effective (less contra-indicatory) based on being more informed on the additional chemicals we are introducing to our brains.
 
lol i'd give everything i own to be manic depressive

Id give just about everything i own not to be so I'll gladly trade.

This.

For some reason, although I am not bipolar myself, I tend to attract people that are. Almost all of the bipolars I have met like cannabis a LOT... one in particular probably smokes 1/4 oz per week (!). He cycles rapidly, has mixed episodes, and when he is manic he mostly presents with problematic behaviors. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that he is constantly stoned? I wonder if he has figured that out yet. I'll ask.

I cannot think of one bipolar person I've ever met that I would consider stupid, and I have also noticed that they are very creative thinkers. I suppose another benefit to having bipolar friends is that when I get depressed/introverted (I have major depressive disorder among other things) they always seem to be the one to get me out of the house and help me be more interactive.

I smoke alot of Cannabis as well and for me atleast i would probably be alot more crazy without Cannabis 8o . It helps the mixed episodes i get along with the racing thoughts and awful depressive episodes so that's something atleast.
 
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