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Benzos Best way to dose and store pure Xanax powder?

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I have recently come across a fair amount of pure Alprazolam (Xanax) powder and I am wondering the best way to dose it and store it given its incredible potency while in a pure form. I own a digital scale, but it only measures to hundredths of a gram (0.01) so it is not nearly accurate enough to safely dose this stuff. I think I would even be weary of using a milligram scale. So this leads me to believe that the best way would be to make a Xanax solution. For example use my scale to measure out say 200mgs and dilute it into 100ml of a solution thus leaving me with a 2mg/ml Xanax solution. I am wondering what would be the best solvent to use in terms of safety, cost and attainability? Or if anyone else has any experience with similar situations or any other ideas, they would all be greatly appreciated.

-Thanks
 
best solvent to use is propylene glycol, it will dissolve it fast and completely.

Since PG is sometimes hard to find, i use this banana extract you can find in baking sections of a grocery store. It contains ethanol, PG and whatever artficial banana flavor, works every time for etizolam or benzos. It usually takes a day to completely dissolve but i don't agitate the solution or heat it. You could use other flavors as well, but just check the ingredients and if it says PG and ethanol you're good to go.

Just in case you can't find any of this, you'll either have to use isopropyl alcohol (which isn't unsafe in a very saturated solution, so you could make drops and it won't kill you or harm you) or very high proof alcohol, at least 150 proof. I've tried 80 proof and it just isn't strong enough to dissolve most benzos/etizolam that i've encountered.

Are you sure it's alrpazolam and not etizolam or even phenazepam? As the latter 2 are far easier to obtain. I've never known anyone to have a pure pharm powder benzo and i'm pretty sure the places they synth these benzos have insanely tight restrictions so that non is diverted.
 
How did you obtain the Pure Xanax Powder and I would Recommend on just getting a better scale but if your really too cheap than you get what ya pay for son.
 
Thomas, you can't ask for sources here. As far as scales go, you need something like a good analytical balance to consistently weigh mg and microgram weights. They're 1000+ USD...

Use PG like Robot said! Be careful, the powder can be the danger zone for many.
 
be careful using the .01 scale to make your solution. it most likely has a +/- variance of up to 50mgs.

get a high quality milligram scale and weigh out say 25mg, and mix with a propylene glycol/benzalkonium hydrochloride solution (i think .9% bezalkonium/99.1% propylene is good) just make small batches and use syringes to measure all the liquids as accurately as possible. i think a 1mg/ml dilution would be easy to dose. keep it in the fridge once its mixed too.
 
Thanks for the feedback to everyone except for thomas29,

I have a 50ml bottle of pure Propylene glycol, wouldn't it be a waste of the PG to mix the Xanax at 1mg/ml? I'm not sure exactly how much Xanax can dissolve in PE but I imagine its much more than 1mg/ml.

My idea is to dilute the PG with water to say maybe 20% PG, so I have 250ml of 20% PG solution in water. Then I can add 250mg of Xanax to the 250ml 20% PG solution and have 1mg/ml/. This assumes that Xanax can dissolve at 5mg/ml in pure PG, from what I have read on the forums, people claim to have dissolved up to 20mg/ml, so 5 should be no problem. Anyone see any problems with this? I think its best to consume as little PG as possible.

Thoughts?
 
you can dissolve a shit load of xanax into 1 mL of PG; i'm not sure of the limit but you can definitely get into the double digits. If you dilute with water i am betting you're going to have a hard time dissolving it. I wouldn't even risk it. In theory, yes it should work, but i'm not 100% on that and if i had 250mg of xanax i wouldn't take any chances with it. Just make a 5mg/ml solution if you have to and be careful administering it to yourself.

I generally don't mix over 3mg/ml of etizolam because psychologically i get stuck not feeling right if i dont take a certain amount of mLs/day, as ridiculous as that may sound. To taper myself, i just dilute my solution with more PG, which is strange too but it works.

perhaps you could dissolve it first in PG then dilute with water, would it be an homogeneous solution though? that is what i'm not sure of. Because xanax isn't going to touch that water, it'll just stay stuck in the PG. I don't know anything about chemistry though, so it may work.
 
I also got a hold of some pure alprazolam powder recently. For those of you that doubt, there have been some startling developments regarding the availability of the black market to everyday semi-savvy computer users over the past few years.

I have a milligram scale that I use sometimes, but honestly, I kind of like just dipping my pinkie in the bag and licking it clean (so seductive). Not very precise, I know, and maybe not the best HR advice, but I feel it would be difficult to get more than a few mg on the tip of your pinkie. Then again, I have skinnier pinkies than most.
 
IMO, that's a part of the trap certain "street" drugs lure you into: you're never 100% sure how much you're taking, due to variable quality and / or lack of proper measurement, so you just dose what you estimate is right. Over time, your brain will gradually increase what looks / feels right without any conscious input or warning. You may keep on thinking that you're taking the same amount, but in reality your doses will escalate and tolerance will spiral out of control.

I won't even comment on the inaccuracies inherent in the pinkie dipping method.

USP grade PG is piss easy to get and cheap as well. Find any site that sells e-cigarette related stuff and there you go. (The liquid in e-cigs is always a solution of nicotine in PG and / or VG (vegetable glycerin), with optional flavourings. USP PG / VG is used to dilute e-liquid that's too concentrated.)
 
uh dont dip your finger in there man lol you'll get more than a few milligrams. You ever see 1 milligram? it's kind of hard because when you weigh it out it can blow off your scale or into thin air lol. It's tiny. I use to to do toothpick dips but would end up taking well over 50mg of either phenazepam or etizolam by doing such things. There's really no match to liquid dosing, you don't want to black out, what's the fun in that?
 
IME using a $20 milligramme scale I got online worked fine for me to weigh out like 10mg piles, then eyeballing those into doses. Though I don't recommend that you do this, because it did lead to some problems lol.

If you have 50mL PG I would dissolve as much as possible into it using 50mg amounts until it becomes saturated (read: no more will dissolve), unless you can find the solubility of alprazolam in PG online. I've been told Miralax contains PG (or PEG, can't remember which). Then once the alp is dissolved, get 1mL, or whatever you need for a dose, and then add water to that or squirt it onto a bit of toilet paper or something & take it that way to avoid alp coming out of solution & getting lost to ya.


Be careful, though, it's easy to dose & then dose & then dose & then dose lol. You know how it's easy to swallow 10+ pills in a night more than you planned? Well it's a lot fucking easier to overdo that when you have powder & solution.

90% Isopropanol will work, but it's far from an ideal solvent. I had to use that & then use a pipette to put drops into gelcaps. They store well for a few weeks, but then they kind of break away & you're left with a smushed gelcap covered in alp powder lol.
 
you can dissolve a shit load of xanax into 1 mL of PG; i'm not sure of the limit but you can definitely get into the double digits. If you dilute with water i am betting you're going to have a hard time dissolving it. I wouldn't even risk it. In theory, yes it should work, but i'm not 100% on that and if i had 250mg of xanax i wouldn't take any chances with it. Just make a 5mg/ml solution if you have to and be careful administering it to yourself.

I generally don't mix over 3mg/ml of etizolam because psychologically i get stuck not feeling right if i dont take a certain amount of mLs/day, as ridiculous as that may sound. To taper myself, i just dilute my solution with more PG, which is strange too but it works.

perhaps you could dissolve it first in PG then dilute with water, would it be an homogeneous solution though? that is what i'm not sure of. Because xanax isn't going to touch that water, it'll just stay stuck in the PG. I don't know anything about chemistry though, so it may work.

Propylene glycol is miscible (ie it may be diluted in, and remain homogeneous) with water; I am not entirely sure of the solubility of alprazolam in PG, but it certainly is NOT 10g/mL. Oxymorphone HCl in water is soluble at 4g/mL.. In any event that is a massive amount when compared with the weight of alprazolam (tiny) & excipients (lots) in a typical mix with microcrystalline cellulose, corn starch, lactose, povidone and magnesium stearate or whatever you use; you'd need a much lower dilution when you imagine the weight of a 2mg tablet as dispensed in finished dose form.
PG is perfectly safe to use as well, being used in all BzD mixes, and even ice cream - you would need about 5g per litre of blood to even begin any adverse effect (respiratory depression is most common, and that usually by a mistaken injection, happens about once every five or ten years...) meaning you would have to take, at 5g/mL dissolved in 10mL distilled water, about 25,000 typical tablets to reach that stage. Which is why it is the safe sokvent of choice for BzDs in the pharma industry. Wet granulation, the process we are discussing, is the only suitable method of tabletting high potency drugs - try triazolam at 125mcg (0.125mg)!
And may I finish by reminding our American members to PLEASE, NEVER EXPRESS HALF A MILLIGRAM (0.5mg) in the form .5mg because that could EASILY be read as 5mg and cause thousands of deaths... ALWAYS represent sub-milligram amounts in micrograms, or REMEMBER TO INSERT THE COMPULSORY '0' BEFORE THE DECIMAL POINT, such as alprazolam 0.5mg or 500mcg. Or triazolam 125mcg/0.125mg. Omitting that zero is not just plain WRONG but STUPID and DANGEROUS. You would NEVER see such a dreadful and basic mistake used on a prescription or on medical notes and the reason is obvious.
 
In this case, the least harmful way. F*** your high, if your dead, right? That was a little HR reminder to keep you guys on the happy side of things.
 
I used to eyeball powder benzos and would pass out for days on end,.then go through a massive wd, vomiting everywhere
 
best solvent to use is propylene glycol, it will dissolve it fast and completely.

Since PG is sometimes hard to find, i use this banana extract you can find in baking sections of a grocery store. It contains ethanol, PG and whatever artficial banana flavor, works every time for etizolam or benzos. It usually takes a day to completely dissolve but i don't agitate the solution or heat it. You could use other flavors as well, but just check the ingredients and if it says PG and ethanol you're good to go.

Just in case you can't find any of this, you'll either have to use isopropyl alcohol (which isn't unsafe in a very saturated solution, so you could make drops and it won't kill you or harm you) or very high proof alcohol, at least 150 proof. I've tried 80 proof and it just isn't strong enough to dissolve most benzos/etizolam that i've encountered.

Are you sure it's alrpazolam and not etizolam or even phenazepam? As the latter 2 are far easier to obtain. I've never known anyone to have a pure pharm powder benzo and i'm pretty sure the places they synth these benzos have insanely tight restrictions so that non is diverted.
Not true in the least!
Alprazolam is by FAR the easiest pure BzD powder to find - remembering to be careful & choose your supplier with the utmost care, it is made by almost every Chinese API manufacturer you come across; use a long-established firm with good reviews as some Johnny-Come-Latelies are known to send below-par powders with fake assay certification, and you may end up with something a lot lower than the usual 99.5% pharma purity. It has recently been subject to higher controls by Chinese Health Authorities on account of all these mushrooming chemical companies and the amount of complaints so is not quite so simple to source as five years ago, however no great problems should be encountered. Indian API suppliers have been much more tightly controlled in line with the new quality standards in force there.
The internet is pretty easy to find such things, and even more so should you have a TOR browser installed.
One does not name sources or give prices here on Bluelight, but it strikes me, having read the relevant rules, that it is in order for me to say you could easily make 2500 x 2mg bars - including binders, fillers and other excipients such as the essential magnesium stearate, for as much as you might pay for, say, a couple of bottles of 50 x Pfizer/Upjohn original U94 2mg XANAX brand bars elsewhere.
The TDP-6 tablet press is cheap and a lot better (higher pressure, plenty available different-shaped punch-dies, hand or electric operation) than its predecessors, making firm, professional tablets at around 150/minute. Widely available but tends to cost more on eBay than from specialised suppliers. In any case I would be very wary of buying one second-hand; I don't see many folk selling such machines unless there's a little problem with it - the cheapest rotary press costs well over $25,000 so upgrading is a big thing and the TDP unlikely to end up on eBay or Amazon Pre-Owned Goods.
Punch dies are around $100 apiece in addition to the 10mm diameter round, single-score die it is supplied with.
As for dosing, best to pay a contract firm to mix your API and tablet mix ('Firmpress' is far and away the best on the 'amateur' market) using the wet granulation process - the ONLY way to ensure every single dosage unit of high potency drugs like alprazolam, etizolam or fenazepam is precisely correct and equal in every tablet.
I have used TDP machines to make herbal tablets & health supplements for over 10 years and can vouch for their efficacy.
 
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Hi there! So I read your very helpful post and got myself some vanilla extract--which lists the second ingredient as PG. I used 135 mg etizolam powder in 135 ml of this liquid. I mixed up it well, then put the bottle in a hot bath to help it along with dissolving. There is still quite a bit of undissolved powder at the bottom, despite the applied heat. Do I just need to be a bit more patient and wait a full day, and the issue will remedy itself? Just wanting some clarification as this is my first time using the powder--also wanted to be sure that I used the correct ratio of powder to vanilla extract, as it is obviously not 100% PG, and does contain water along with other ingredients.

Thanks in advance for your help, and thanks again for your initial post!! :)


Woops! Sorry--first post. I meant to be addressing RobotRipping specifically, as he suggested using extracts as a source of PG:


"Since PG is sometimes hard to find, i use this banana extract you can find in baking sections of a grocery store. It contains ethanol, PG and whatever artficial banana flavor, works every time for etizolam or benzos. It usually takes a day to completely dissolve but i don't agitate the solution or heat it. You could use other flavors as well, but just check the ingredients and if it says PG and ethanol you're good to go."
 
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I'd give it more time to fully dissolve.

If it still won't fully dissolve then you may have to add more liquid. Currently you are trying for a solution of 1mg per 1ml. If you need to add more, maybe add another 135ml so that you then have 0.5mg per ml. The easier the math the less of a chance you make an error in dose calculation.

Make sure everything is fully dissolved before using otherwise you run the risk of particle hot spots and the rest of the solution being less potent than predicted which could skew your dose to experience (which could lead you into thinking your dosing more than you actually are... This could be problematic in the future)

Shake well before each use. It's always a good idea to do so, but in your case you really should shake well each time since your liquid is a mixture of several things. It's possible it could separate into different layers.

It's best to use pure PG in the future. Less to worry about and easier to get the goods dissolved. It shouldn't be difficult to source.
 
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