I currently am on 4 mg of clonazepam a day and 2, 8 mg tablets of bupe a day. I can get down to 1 mg of clonazepam but my anxiety goes up. I start feeling the withdrawals and due to situations or people near me I end up back on my prescribed dose. The bupe I am able to take 1 , 8 mg tablet a day but since the pharmacy switched generics of both meds to an Indian company which is not the same as Teva's for both meds I have had to take more to get the same level of effect. I thought of asking the doctor for brand name Clons or to write on the script only teva brand so I can detox without having to switch to an inferior generic in the middle of a detox. Or should I try the Ashton method using Valium if the Doc will let me go this route. She should since I've had clean urine's for 20 years. I was on methadone and switched to bupe ten years ago. What has worked for you folks?
Hey man, I wish I had an answer. According to the chart I read .5 mg clonazepam= 10mg of Valium. I don't know your doctor or your medical insurance but 4 MG of clonazepam = 8x10mg Valium a day. 80mg a day?
Wow I complain about 30mg a day.
I am impressed that you pissed clean for 20 years, good job.
Can you slowly get down to 1 MG over a year( I am not, being a pessimist, but my doc said 1 to 1 1/2 years to get off all my meds) However, I have cirrhosis of the liver.
I am not sure that affect things?
Not sure, but 4 MG of clonazepam is a lot. .5mg= 10mg Valium. I switched to Valium, so that I can try the Ashton method, but 1mg(Ativan) lorazepam =10mg Valium.
I was on 3 x2 MG a day. I cut my intake by half. I didn't notice because I was on gabapentin and clonidine, while I got off morphine.( still on oxycodone, but a low dose that no longer works, and I am good.)
Keif Richard's, a mod on here is very knowledgeable about opiods, maybe he can help you with the subs or bupe.
He is smart, knowledgeable about opiods and he might give great advice or know of someone to help with the opiods.
It is really sad, I know very well, that their are tons of people who have gotten off, of bupe and clonazepam on here.
However, there are a lot of people on here, who don't like your posts, sorry to break the news; you are not politically correct. At least you are not hated, oh well.
Trust me, I can be nice and friendly towards anyone, just about.
However, there are a lot of people here, who don't like your political or religious beliefs, but at least you are not as hated.
Trust me, on this, I face that, plus I can be pain, when I am in pain.
Been seriously I have been working on my attitude.
I have learned or am learning to be more polite.
Your best bet is to also research benzo's, I don't want you to have a seizure or die.
I would go for lowering the benzo, than going after the bupe.
The reason for this, is because getting off, clonazepam will be more difficult, time consuming and if your anxiety level has been stabilized, it will be easier to get off bupe.
I have a situation, where nothing is working, so I might as well stop.
I physically can't drink and drugs, I like the results, but not the withdrawals.
I am in bad health but, I have been much worse. I die when the Lord says it is time.
The length of time we both have used benzo's and opiods is a long time, so will be getting off, them safely. PM anytime, good luck.
Also did your insurance screw you and say that you can only go to certain pharmacies? Mine did. A while back, you are right not all generics are the the same.