Cocaine Anybody else do coke even though they don't get much out of it?

[Stringer_Bell]

Hello Bluelighters,

First, I should say that I know the usual answer to someone saying they don't get much out of coke is that the coke isn't any good. I'm as sure as I can be that it's not the case here but even if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate it if we could just assume that the quality of the coke isn't the problem. For what it's worth the coke in question has been tested at over 75% pure with no leva or other active cuts. I've also tried coke from different batches also testing 'pure' (meaning no active cuts) at over 75%. Everybody raves about the stuff.

I should mention that I'm on antidepressants. I know for sure that they prevent me feeling almost all effects MDMA but not sure if they should affect my ability to experience the effects of coke or not. They certainly don't affect my ability to feel the effects of prescription dexamfetamine (I'm in the UK and we get given that, not Adderall).

I started doing coke about 6 months ago (insufflated, I have never smoked or IV'd and have no interest in either of those ROA). The very first time I did it was actually in the US. I got the classic extreme euphoria followed by a heavy crash. The high came on instantly which makes me think it may have been the levamisole (I think pretty much all coke in the US has leva in it) rather than the coke that got me high because from what I understand coke doesn't give instant euphoria when insufflated, it takes 10 mins or so to come on.

After that I started doing coke in the UK. I went a bit crazy with it at first, going on multi-day and multi-gram binges, then ending up a depressed wreck at the end of the binges. I went through a stage of combining the coke with oral oxycodone and that felt amazing but, as per my other thread, oxy doesn't do much for me anymore (tolerance I guess) and I don't want to mess around with opiates anymore anyway, given the hell that 'recreational' oxy use may lead to.

Anyway that's just background. My question is this. I don't really get any massive euphoria from coke so why do I keep using (I'm guessing the answer is just that I'm addicted). It's quite pleasant but nothing special. What I DO enjoy is the process of doing coke. Hotplating it, racking up lines and snorting the coke (I love the taste). I have really settled down in the way I use coke and have completely stopped the multi-gram binges over several days. Now, I'll do about 0.5g once a week or fortnight. I don't do anymore than that because if I do then I get pretty bad depression for the next few days. I'm addicted for sure because after a week of not using I get quite bad cravings and really do feel compelled to get more coke. It took me a while to accept this (being addicted) but I definitely am.

On the one hand I want to quit because clearly being addicted to coke isn't good. On the other hand it kind of fills a gap in my life that I can't quite identify and that makes me not want to quit. But it seems so weird to me that I keep using even though I don't get anything out of it.

Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to know if anybody else could relate to the above or whether I'm just crazy. Of course I know I should quit but it would be better for about 90% of people on this forum if we never touched drugs again. I like being sober and healthy but I always have this weird sense of dissatisfaction and doing coke every week or two sort of fills that gap. I've tried filling it with other stuff like running, writing, etc all of which I love but they don't fill the gap.

S

 

[Damoxy]

Hi there I'm from the UK too and you are the only other person that uses oxy recreationaly!

I'm similar with coke (crack)
I do it but I don't really like it. Maybe now I'm on subutex I do it because it's a high at least. I don't know.

 

[bingey]

I get anxiety attacks from small doses of Coke and crack and psychosis from anything more than 1 hit or 1 decent line.


Needless to say I stopped wasting my money on that shit. However I frequently get offered a hit of crack and don't always turn it down.

 

[Stringer_Bell]

I get anxiety attacks from small doses of Coke and crack and psychosis from anything more than 1 hit or 1 decent line.


Needless to say I stopped wasting my money on that shit. However I frequently get offered a hit of crack and don't always turn it down.

The stupid thing is I often get anxiety attacks too (unless I take a couple of Xanax beforehand) but I still doing this stuff. I need to stop.

 

[mysafehome01]

Hi there I'm from the UK too and you are the only other person that uses oxy recreationaly!

I'm similar with coke (crack)
I do it but I don't really like it. Maybe now I'm on subutex I do it because it's a high at least. I don't know.

There is no way this guy uses Oxy in the UK.

Also, the Coke that is directly imported from Preu/ COlombia enters the Country at 60% purity on average, so unless you guys are growing it over here them I'm not sure where this 75% is coming from.

And finally, yes a hell of a lot of us still do Coke even though it's pretty poor quality stuff.

 

[Stringer_Bell]

There is no way this guy uses Oxy in the UK.

Also, the Coke that is directly imported from Preu/ COlombia enters the Country at 60% purity on average, so unless you guys are growing it over here them I'm not sure where this 75% is coming from.

And finally, yes a hell of a lot of us still do Coke even though it's pretty poor quality stuff.

Not sure why you'd say that about Oxy in the UK. Napp Oxynorm.

 

[infectedmushroom]

In Australia coke is ridiculously bad quality and ridiculously over-priced. I have only ever enjoyed it once, when I took two small bumps up either nose after a night of drinking - and another time when I was alone in the day and racked a few lines and spent a while wacking off to demented porn like a sicko (I am a sicko.)

Most people I know won't do coke unless they have a benzo to either smooth out the experience or come down with - myself included. Shitty, shitty drug...doesn't even combine well with other stuff. I prefer dexies.

 

[Stringer_Bell]

In Australia coke is ridiculously bad quality and ridiculously over-priced. I have only ever enjoyed it once, when I took two small bumps up either nose after a night of drinking - and another time when I was alone in the day and racked a few lines and spent a while wacking off to demented porn like a sicko (I am a sicko.)

Most people I know won't do coke unless they have a benzo to either smooth out the experience or come down with - myself included. Shitty, shitty drug...doesn't even combine well with other stuff. I prefer dexies.

I'm actually prescribed dexamfetamine and honestly find it more euphoric than any coke I've done (which is contrary to popular opinion on sites like this which is that coke is way more euphoric than prescription amps although less euphoric than meth). But amps just last too long for me. And you don't get to rack up lines which is my favourite part about coke.

 

[mysafehome01]

Not sure why you'd say that about Oxy in the UK. Napp Oxynorm.

My moms a GP and i've been on pain meds for years, Never EVER heard of it being prescribed out side of the UK.

 

[mysafehome01]

In Australia coke is ridiculously bad quality and ridiculously over-priced. I have only ever enjoyed it once, when I took two small bumps up either nose after a night of drinking - and another time when I was alone in the day and racked a few lines and spent a while wacking off to demented porn like a sicko (I am a sicko.)

Most people I know won't do coke unless they have a benzo to either smooth out the experience or come down with - myself included. Shitty, shitty drug...doesn't even combine well with other stuff. I prefer dexies.

Good Cocaine is hard to beat.Like, the real high strength purity stuff. Although it's as rare shes teeth.

 

[weekend addiction]

Good coke is a good drug problem is good coke is about as rare as a unicorn. Atleast around here. So obviously its crack or nothing for me. Problem with that is if you get caught with crack they will rake you over the coals here you might as well just go around beating the shit out of people for fun you WILL get less time! I got addicted to the shit after scoring it for my uncle a shit ton of times in exchange for a free pipe load or two. The stuff is pure evil you wanna watch your friends turn on each other just offer them some free rock. Even though they didn't put a dime into the endeavor and you brought it to their house expect plenty of arguments about who hit it first or who is hitting it too hard etc...

 

[Stringer_Bell]

I'm sure it's rarely prescribed. It's certainly not prescribed to me. There are ways to get it though.

 

[Sprout]

There is no way this guy uses Oxy in the UK.

Also, the Coke that is directly imported from Preu/ COlombia enters the Country at 60% purity on average, so unless you guys are growing it over here them I'm not sure where this 75% is coming from.

And finally, yes a hell of a lot of us still do Coke even though it's pretty poor quality stuff.

Swing by EADD sometime, Oxy isn't exactly common here but it's been attainable at the street level for a while.
Most of it still comes from those darker corners of cyberspace though and a lot of people very quickly consider it overpriced and overhyped.

As for the purity: it ain't exactly difficult to clean up Coke and we have a three-tier market consisting of "pub-grade" 95% Lidocaine shite, average gear that's usually not more than ~30% and the top range stuff which certainly can reach, and has tested as even higher than, figures around 75%. Not sustainable in the slightest at UK prices though, a few grams is half that month's paycheck for many.

Yeah OP: pretty much everyone keeps using Coke without getting much, I find the stuff massively glamourised and over-rated even when thoroughly cleaned.
When rocked up I certainly enjoy it far more but Crack is, well.... Crack 8(

 

[incog_user]

@ Stringer_Bell

Your anti
depressants don't help the high bc you're using an upper while a downer is already in your system. Try taking your medication on the come down or when you're ready to go to bed, not before. Also it depends on how you are using the coke. For most people when they are getting ready to start their coke binge, they put a large line down, and snort the whole thing. In my experience that is the worst way to start. The rest of the night you are always trying to catch that high, and in order to do so you have to do more than the dose before. Try doing small bumps every 15-20 minutes. About the size of nail or a wood screw. Then just slowly build up.

What do you do while on coke, and how big of rails do you do? that might also have some effect on why you don't feel it as much. I'm betting you don't feel it as much bc of the anti-d's, the frequency you do it, and maybe the activities you do while on it. It'll never feel like the first time, or the second for that matter.

 

[Stringer_Bell]

@ Stringer_Bell

Your anti
depressants don't help the high bc you're using an upper while a downer is already in your system. Try taking your medication on the come down or when you're ready to go to bed, not before. Also it depends on how you are using the coke. For most people when they are getting ready to start their coke binge, they put a large line down, and snort the whole thing. In my experience that is the worst way to start. The rest of the night you are always trying to catch that high, and in order to do so you have to do more than the dose before. Try doing small bumps every 15-20 minutes. About the size of nail or a wood screw. Then just slowly build up.

What do you do while on coke, and how big of rails do you do? that might also have some effect on why you don't feel it as much. I'm betting you don't feel it as much bc of the anti-d's, the frequency you do it, and maybe the activities you do while on it. It'll never feel like the first time, or the second for that matter.

Thank you. This is a very helpful answer to my question. I think you're right about the antidepressants. I take them twice a day but don't take them in the morning if I'm doing coke that day. However obviously antidepressants build up a serum level over weeks so just skipping one dose won't mean they're out of my system (as you no doubt know). The antidepressants most certainly mean MDMA just doesn't work on me (I believe because antidepressants bind to the receptors that MDMA works on, but I'm no expert). I had never thought of antidepressants as 'downers' before. Is that how you would classify them? When I say antidepressants, to be clear I don't mean benzos. I mean tricyclics plus lamictal.

As I said, I believe the coke I get is 70% above in purity. It's been tested but I know people here will still be skeptical and I can't prove that it's that pure.

I've read threads which say most people would get 10 lines out of a gram. I can't do lines anywhere near that big without getting very anxious. I would say I get at least 20 lines out of a gram, if not more. That probably sounds like actually my lines aren't big enough and maybe that's why I don't get the strong euphoria. I do actually prefer doing smaller lines more frequently, as you suggest.

I actually prefer to do coke on my own, which is weird I know but if I do it at clubs or parties I do get quite anxious.

The only times I've had amazing euphoria on coke are the first time I took it in the US (I think it was probably cut with leva) and when I've combined it with oxy (but that's probably more the oxy than the coke). I don't actually get massive comedowns after stopping the coke BUT I will get bad depression the day after.

All this makes it sound like it's not worth me doing coke at all and that's kind of the point of this post. It's nowhere near as enjoyable as the first few times I did Oxy but for some reason I keep going back to it. I'm clearly addicted. The only 'good' thing is that I just can't use that much of it. Half a gram to a gram and I'm done. Then it takes a week to recover during which I don't touch it.

I really should quit altogether but I do like drugs and opiates are out for me because I'm scared of where they may lead, weed and LSD are out because of a horrible experience I had with them, amps are ok but they're really more for getting stuff done rather than recreational use, I don't want to go near meth and MDMA would probably be perfect but I get no effect from it because of the antidepressants. I've never been much of a drinker. So coke is really my DOC by default.

Thanks for all the replies though guys, really appreciate them.

And you really can get Oxy in the UK, lol. But obviously it's not like in the US.

 

[Fire&Water]

Yeah, the antidepressants will antagonize the euphoria, not of just cocaine
but for all types of drugs.

iow...youre wasting your money.

 

[Stringer_Bell]

I think the antidepressants don't have much of an effect on opiates (but don't want to get too involved with those), dexamfetamine or benzos.

But yeah, they probably are having an effect on euphoria from coke.

It is a waste, I just keep doing it which seems so stupid but I kind of felt that way when I smoked a lot of the time.

 

[Phil.McKeer]

I've noticed that doing any cocaine while rolling on MDMA or its analogues will immediately cut my roll short.

I'm not sure which antidepressants you're on and on which receptors they act, but I just thought I'd share in case the above info helps you connect any dots.

PS - I used to do coke quite a bit, and didn't get much out of it either, other than worrying about my xanax supply so I could be sure to get to sleep XD

 

[Backspin]

If you aren't getting a net positive from it, then why do it ?

For me, coke and most of these stims do the exact opposite of what I want a drug to do to me. I want slow things down , get dreamy, feel different. Coke is just sobriety on steroids.

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

if your getting good quality it is almost an acquired taste. The first few times you don't feel much and than you realize its a subtle buzz that just kida elevates your mood for an hour or so. amd heartrate. also only expect a good numbnes on the first dose so make that the heavy one. (as long as you know your limit)