Stimulants Amphetamine/speed

[Aristoteles]

Hey there, first thread to post actually so be gentle.: D
The question struck me before when I was about to snort a line.

I usually say that people who abuse / use amphetamines for a longer period, can be regular or periodic. It does not matter-
During the individual's '' amphetamine career '' you learn lessons / get to know the substance you have as the main drug.
Does anyone want to share their personal experiences that have had an impact on their vision / management / intake etc etc.
What the consequences were otherwise in connection with
' Lesson ''.
Hope I was clear enough to make me understand, thanks in advance

 

[mtu mwendawazimu]

Hey.. Welcome to Bluelight, @Aristoteles!!!!

Cool thread idea! I'm looking forward to hearing other people's stories.

Always loved stimulants. Started with taking adderall for the SATs in high school. Felt so efficient and slightly euphoric. Then coke in college - loved it - felt like superman on that fish scale the very first time. Hadn't had any coke that came even close to that quality since. Finally, i tried meth when i became homeless (long story) and absolutely loved it.. It's still my drug of choice.

People with ADHD can be prescribed pharma-meth (Desoxyn), so for some people it really helps.

For me, it is a straight up addiction.

I am not "cool" on meth. I get very self centered. All i want to do is what i want to do.. which is usually have sex, masturbate, or do more meth. My preferred ROA is to shoot it, so i developed a fixation with needles. I spent every last dollar i had on it.

I have been sober since December, not by choice, though.

While sober, i have had time to think. I have a job now (not homeless any more, thank god), so in my mind i think i'll be able to use responsibly, along with Vyvanse and Adderall, which i have a good supply of.

But TBH, not sure how that will work out.

I've always been a binger of drugs, mostly for financial reasons. So i am good at turning it on and off. But, i will say..

It gets harder and harder to stop.

Sorry for the novel - kratom makes me more social, i think.

Like i said.. looking forward to other people's posts more than writing mine

Welcome again.

 

[Aristoteles]

Hey.. Welcome to Bluelight, @Aristoteles!!!!

Cool thread idea! I'm looking forward to hearing other people's stories.

Always loved stimulants. Started with taking adderall for the SATs in high school. Felt so efficient and slightly euphoric. Then coke in college - loved it - felt like superman on that fish scale the very first time. Hadn't had any coke that came even close to that quality since. Finally, i tried meth when i became homeless (long story) and absolutely loved it.. It's still my drug of choice.

People with ADHD can be prescribed pharma-meth (Desoxyn), so for some people it really helps.

For me, it is a straight up addiction.

I am not "cool" on meth. I get very self centered. All i want to do is what i want to do.. which is usually have sex, masturbate, or do more meth. My preferred ROA is to shoot it, so i developed a fixation with needles. I spent every last dollar i had on it.

I have been sober since December, not by choice, though.

While sober, i have had time to think. I have a job now (not homeless any more, thank god), so in my mind i think i'll be able to use responsibly, along with Vyvanse and Adderall, which i have a good supply of.

But TBH, not sure how that will work out.

I've always been a binger of drugs, mostly for financial reasons. So i am good at turning it on and off. But, i will say..


Sorry for the novel - kratom makes me more social, i think.

Like i said.. looking forward to other people's posts more than writing mine

Welcome again.

Jeez thats totally true,

It gets harder and harder to stop.

About to refill a little badboy and can really recognize myself in what youre saying.

Thanks a lot & I appreciate u finding the thread interesting!

 

[Jabberwocky]

As far as 'abuse' goes, I first tried IV speed 30 years ago, moved to coke for a while and then discovered meth about 6 years ago. I'm currently clean and tend to go on and off recreational stims regularly - often being off for several years at a time. As an abuser I have a need fixation like @madness00 and I am not that sociable when using. It's all about me and my drugs. However, as I have posted on BL before, the attraction to me of amphetamines is that they "make me feel like me". That is to say, they seem to be the missing piece of my brain's chemical makeup and I would describe my high as often becoming normal rather than fucked up (although the pro-sexual effects of meth definitely make me do abnormal things sometimes).

I am lucky that I have a legitimate prescription for d-amp for adult ADHD so I can get that 'complete me' feeling every day if I choose too. I don't feel addicted to d-amp in the way I have been addicted to speed, coke and meth at different times in my life, but I definitely miss it when I stop taking it for whatever reason. I could not imagine stopping it long-term - that would feel like losing a part of my real full self forever.

 

[Aristoteles]

with all due respect to everyone, when I scroll through bluelights drug-sections i can feel sometimes that the abuse im going with is nothing compared to others that shoot up cocaine/meth etc. Which can feel reviling when the anxiety kicks in. Those that relate to the ^^, you all have my respect and wish u all good!

 

[JoEhJoEh]

Hi,

I'm an ADHD and I take 22,5 mg Amphetaminsulfate per day since 7 years now. I never abused it, I never took more than prescribed because for me it's just a med that helps my really during my working day. On weekends I don't take it besides i have to do things where I have to be focused.

Since Corona-Lockdown (6 weeks almost) I did not even eat a single dose. For what? Sitting at home and staring onto the wall?

So, no, Amphetamine is not abused by everyone, or overtaken or taken too often, no.

JJ

 

[Vinnie77]

It's good when you are really tired and have to go to work and coffee isn't enough, but it has no recreational value for me unless i smoke some weed after line.

 

[d1nach]

I also have extra pills but im just saying having like 6 weeks extra of pills could influence someone choosing to take more than prescribed. Not everyone. Heck, probably the majority. But idk if your in that minority so im just giving you a heads up.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Hi,

I'm an ADHD and I take 22,5 mg Amphetaminsulfate per day since 7 years now. I never abused it, I never took more than prescribed because for me it's just a med that helps my really during my working day. On weekends I don't take it besides i have to do things where I have to be focused.

Since Corona-Lockdown (6 weeks almost) I did not even eat a single dose. For what? Sitting at home and staring onto the wall?

So, no, Amphetamine is not abused by everyone, or overtaken or taken too often, no.

JJ

Same here. Am scripted dex and have been on scripted amphetamines for like five years now. First Vyvanse then Dexedrine.

I have never abused my medication. If my dose is too high I just get anxious, I definitely don't find it recreational.

I do get some minor euphoria if I have a break for a week or so then come back to it, which I will do occasionally because sometimes I feel like my brain needs a rest, but it doesn't last long then it's back to normal. Using it as a daily med it feels like having a coffee in the morning.

It really helps me at work and in my personal projects, it's honestly one of those meds where I see it like I'm putting up with the side effects (e.g. dehydration, tiredness at the end of the day) because it's so helpful at treating my condition.

I am still taking it as normal during lockdown because I'm working from home. If anything I need it more now because it's far easier to get distracted at home than it is at the office. But it's doing the job keeping me focused.

 

[Aristoteles]

The thing is I would rather have these prescribed meds that you guys mention, i cant be sure but i can tell from what i think bout' legal prescribed dex.
But for that to happen in Sweden i would have to go through a hell of a process and then have a doctor afterwards deciding if there is a need of prescription.
Today i instead have to get amphetamine from the streets which can contain something god knows what, that way makes it a lot harder to use without developing it into an addiction that intervenes negative in daily life. Dosage, how to measure up the right weight etc etc

 

[JoEhJoEh]

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Is it really so bad with these meds? Do ADHD-people really so often mis- or abuse exactly that

Same here. Am scripted dex and have been on scripted amphetamines for like five years now. First Vyvanse then Dexedrine.

I have never abused my medication. If my dose is too high I just get anxious, I definitely don't find it recreational.

I do get some minor euphoria if I have a break for a week or so then come back to it, which I will do occasionally because sometimes I feel like my brain needs a rest, but it doesn't last long then it's back to normal. Using it as a daily med it feels like having a coffee in the morning.

It really helps me at work and in my personal projects, it's honestly one of those meds where I see it like I'm putting up with the side effects (e.g. dehydration, tiredness at the end of the day) because it's so helpful at treating my condition.

I am still taking it as normal during lockdown because I'm working from home. If anything I need it more now because it's far easier to get distracted at home than it is at the office. But it's doing the job keeping me focused.

Hi there,

I can fully understand your post because (you already read it) it's just a med for me. I didn't even try street-speed because when it was offered to me I always said - " Im crazy and nervous enough, I don't need more of this shit!"

Euphoria I don't have with the Amphetamine, but I don't care, I just want to be good in my job and don't do too many mistakes or behave like full-throttle.

JJ

 

[Wilson Wilson]

The thing is I would rather have these prescribed meds that you guys mention, i cant be sure but i can tell from what i think bout' legal prescribed dex.
But for that to happen in Sweden i would have to go through a hell of a process and then have a doctor afterwards deciding if there is a need of prescription.
Today i instead have to get amphetamine from the streets which can contain something god knows what, that way makes it a lot harder to use without developing it into an addiction that intervenes negative in daily life. Dosage, how to measure up the right weight etc etc

It is always a shame to see someone who wants legitimate medication but is forced to use the black market.

There's hoops to jump through in the UK too. You need to see an ADHD specialist to get a diagnosis and they will then script the meds. After that you get the script from your GP, but to get diagnosed initially it must be an ADHD specialist, it cannot be a GP or even a regular psychiatrist.

I got a diagnosis pretty easily and got put on stims straight off but only after I got to see an ADHD specialist. Actually getting that assessment can take years on the NHS so I got it done privately at no small cost.

Not sure how things work in Sweden but do you have a private option where you can speed the process up if you pay? And could you afford that option if it exists?

 

[Aristoteles]

It is always a shame to see someone who wants legitimate medication but is forced to use the black market.

There's hoops to jump through in the UK too. You need to see an ADHD specialist to get a diagnosis and they will then script the meds. After that you get the script from your GP, but to get diagnosed initially it must be an ADHD specialist, it cannot be a GP or even a regular psychiatrist.

I got a diagnosis pretty easily and got put on stims straight off but only after I got to see an ADHD specialist. Actually getting that assessment can take years on the NHS so I got it done privately at no small cost.

Not sure how things work in Sweden but do you have a private option where you can speed the process up if you pay? And could you afford that option if it exists?

Good morning from Scandinavia
The politics here in Swe regarding narcotics are terrible overall, that also why we are over represented in death that is drug-related.
Socialist country my friend, here you cant do a shit for your own sake with private payments/money. The process takes the time it does.
Me personally will barely be offered painkillers if let's say I break my foot.
Simple explained, couple years back in time I overdosed Tramadol, once they document ''Addiction tendencies'' in your journal, u pretty much get stamped for life.

Greetings,
A.A

 

[JoEhJoEh]

HI there,

every bigger hospital ( or at less really much) do have ambulances for "ADHD IN ADULTS", just google around. There you were diagnosed easier and have access to all doctors you need. Next thing: you really need a specialist for ADHD in adults, no neurologist or GP or Gyn. You need a really good one.

Mine is one of 3 experts in Austria and i love him. But I was lucky I had to admit, too.

You have to do a really long diagnostic but if you really have it you will just smile about it .does also have big relief for someones psyche - extremely good, I'm so grateful to met that guy.

And always think about , that there are REALLY heavy psychiatric diagnoses, so fuck ADHD! :D


JJ

 

[JoEhJoEh]

Hi there,

I'm an ADHD, too. I was suffering from childhood on and was always the bad child to educate blablalba - you know that, , colleagues

Where do you live? If there is a big clinic near you just look up if they have a special ambulance for ADHS in Adults. Here in Vienna there exists 2 as far as I know, and I was so lucky to meet one of them while mine was on vacation. He saw it on my nosetip and offered me directly an appointment (better said a lot of appointments) to get the diagnostic process started.

In the end was it so clear.... Everytime i read specialist literature or something I always wondered how they could know me and from where :D :D

I tried every med from Methylpenidate non retardet or retardet, Strattera I did not even get a chance because my libido was killed already because of MPH and when i looked it up it says sexually disfunktion is the most important side effect.

I told him, look, Im in my best years and i have rather no meds but no libido. Okax, he said, then we have to try the last one on the market and you normally had to buy it by yourself (300 euros or so) and i said I dont care, i try it.

This was the amphetaminsufate and my insurence does pay for it regardlessness.

Im not feeling angry or stupid or bad with that diagnose, why? there are much more other diagnoses i would myself shoot in my head when I would be diagnosed with them.

Im talking too much, nice Cocaine.

Have a nice warm day! The sun is shining

JJ

 

[Keif' Richards]

Methamphetamine has always really interested me. I'd reckon to say that I've probably been the highest I've ever been on intravenous Meth.

The part that really interests is that I was able to stop using it without physical or psychological intervention from a 3rd party.

As most people know, 90% of my life has been Opioids, 9% sedative-hypnotics and 1% stimulants. The undeniable consequences of chronic Opioid dependence were never enough to actually make me stop (until I did).

The comedown experience of Methamphetamine has, however, been enough to keep me away from this drug on my own accord. The often-delusional cost-benefit analyses that we go through leaves me "afraid" of the consequences of Meth.

Every other drug it seems, I won't turn down or fully understand the true potential for negative experiences. Meth was just a little bit too much. Being that I dont fully understand my compulsive behaviors, 8t is a mystery to me.

Meth is cheap, potent and long-lasting yet I am able to do a realistic analysis of the potential consequences and not use it.

 

[CFC]

Good morning from Scandinavia
The politics here in Swe regarding narcotics are terrible overall, that also why we are over represented in death that is drug-related.
Socialist country my friend, here you cant do a shit for your own sake with private payments/money. The process takes the time it does.
Me personally will barely be offered painkillers if let's say I break my foot.
Simple explained, couple years back in time I overdosed Tramadol, once they document ''Addiction tendencies'' in your journal, u pretty much get stamped for life.

Greetings,
A.A

I think this is general to the culture of most Scandi countries tbh - reminds me of the highly prejudicial treatment of anabolic steroid users out there too

 

[Jabberwocky]

The comedown experience of Methamphetamine has, however, been enough to keep me away from this drug on my own accord. The often-delusional cost-benefit analyses that we go through leaves me "afraid" of the consequences of Meth.
Meth is cheap, potent and long-lasting yet I am able to do a realistic analysis of the potential consequences and not use it.

The first time comedown from a meth binge is truly one of the most existentially terrifying experiences I know of. My first time sent me to a psychiatrist and scared me away from it for something like 6 years. The second time around was less soul-destroying because I was prepared for it. It is said by many people the comedowns get easier the longer you use - but still too terrifying for many long-term users to quit I think.

 

[JoEhJoEh]

As most people know, 90% of my life has been Opioids, 9% sedative-hypnotics and 1% stimulants. The undeniable consequences of chronic Opioid dependence were never enough to actually make me stop (until I did).

This is a wonderful example of an ADHS-Adult. You just treated yourself like I did with a lot of Mary Jane years ago.

Why do you think Im so addicted to Benzoes? And the only stimulant I take is Cocaine? Because I'm always searching for a free head, for pushing away 2 billion thaughts or noises at once, just to feel calm. Like others can do without treating themselves.

All the best for you!

JJ

 

[adhdwoman123]

Hi guys,

Yesterday morning was the last bit of coke I did and the previous morning I took 20mg of elvanse. I've slept and eaten but still feeling awful strong fast heart beat sitting in the 80s and harder breathing. I've got a trance event to go to later and in just wondering if it's worth taking my meds this morning ? I drank lots of alcohol as well at the time ?