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After Medical Marijuana Legalized, Medicare Prescriptions Drop For Many Drugs

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After Medical Marijuana Legalized, Medicare Prescriptions Drop For Many Drugs

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Prescription drug prices continue to climb, putting the pinch on consumers. Some older Americans appear to be seeking an alternative to mainstream medicines that has become easier to get legally in many parts of the country. Just ask Cheech and Chong.

Research published Wednesday found that states that legalized medical marijuana — which is sometimes recommended for symptoms like chronic pain, anxiety or depression — saw declines in the number of Medicare prescriptions for drugs used to treat those conditions and a dip in spending by Medicare Part D, which covers the cost on prescription medications.

Because the prescriptions for drugs like opioid painkillers and antidepressants — and associated Medicare spending on those drugs — fell in states where marijuana could feasibly be used as a replacement, the researchers said it appears likely legalization led to a drop in prescriptions. That point, they said, is strengthened because prescriptions didn't drop for medicines such as blood-thinners, for which marijuana isn't an alternative.

The study, which appears in Health Affairs, examined data from Medicare Part D from 2010 to 2013. It is the first study to examine whether legalization of marijuana changes doctors' clinical practice and whether it could curb public health costs.

The findings add context to the debate as more lawmakers express interest in medical marijuana. This year, Ohio and Pennsylvania passed laws allowing the drug for therapeutic purposes, making it legal in 25 states, plus Washington, D.C. The approach could also come to a vote in Florida and Missouri this November. A federal agency is considering reclassifying medical marijuana under national drug policy to make it more readily available.

Medical marijuana saved Medicare about $165 million in 2013, the researchers concluded. They estimated that, if medical marijuana were available nationwide, Medicare Part D spending would have declined in the same year by about $470 million. That's about half a percent of the program's total expenditures.

That is an admittedly small proportion of the multibillion dollar program. But the figure is nothing to sneeze at, said W. David Bradford, a professor of public policy at the University of Georgia and one of the study's authors.

"We wouldn't say that saving money is the reason to adopt this. But it should be part of the discussion," he added. "We think it's pretty good indirect evidence that people are using this as medication."

The researchers found that in states with medical marijuana laws on the books, the number of prescriptions dropped for drugs to treat anxiety, depression, nausea, pain, psychosis, seizures, sleep disorders and spasticity. Those are all conditions for which marijuana is sometimes recommended.

The study's authors are separately investigating the effect medical marijuana could have on prescriptions covered by Medicaid, the federal-state health insurance program for low-income people. Though this research is still being finalized, they found a greater drop in prescription drug payments there, Bradford said.

If the trend bears out, it could have other public health ramifications. In states that legalized medical uses of marijuana, painkiller prescriptions dropped — on average, the study found, by about 1,800 daily doses filled each year per doctor. That tracks with other research on the subject.

Marijuana is unlike other drugs, such as opioids, in which overdoses are fatal, said Deepak D'Souza, a professor of psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine, who has researched marijuana. "That doesn't happen with marijuana," he added. "But there are whole other side effects and safety issues we need to be aware of."

Study author Bradford agreed: "Just because it's not as dangerous as some other dangerous things, it doesn't mean you want to necessarily promote it. There's a lot of unanswered questions."

Because the federal government classifies marijuana as a Schedule I drug, doctors can't technically prescribe it. In states that have legalized medical marijuana, they can only write patients a note sending them to a dispensary.

Insurance plans don't cover it, so patients using marijuana pay out of pocket. Prices vary based on location, but a patient's recommended regimen can be as much as $400 per month. The Drug Enforcement Agency is considering changing that classification — a decision is expected sometime this summer. If the DEA made marijuana a Schedule II drug, the move would put it in the company of drugs such as morphine and oxycodone, making it easier for doctors to prescribe and more likely that insurance would cover it.

To some, the idea that medical marijuana triggers costs savings is hollow. Instead, they say it is cost shifting. "Even if Medicare may be saving money, medical marijuana doesn't come for free," D'Souza said. "I have some trouble with the idea that this is a source of savings."

Still, Bradford maintains that if medical marijuana became a regular part of patient care nationally, the cost curve would bend because marijuana is cheaper than other drugs.

Lester Grinspoon, an associate professor emeritus of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, who has written two books on the subject, echoed that possibility. Unlike with many drugs, he argued, "There's a limit to how high a price cannabis can be sold at as a medicine." He isn't associated with the study.

And, in the midst of the debate about its economics, medical marijuana still sometimes triggers questions within the practice of medicine.

"As physicians, we are used to prescribing a dose. We don't have good information about what is a good dose for the treatment for, say pain," D'Souza said. "Do you say, 'Take two hits and call me in the morning?' I have no idea."

Kaiser Health News is a national health policy news service that is part of the nonpartisan Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ed-medicare-prescriptions-drop-for-many-drugs
 
Very strong news here. I think its funny that Physicians think people will need them to hand them a permission slip and directions on how to use marijuana medicinally.
 
I think its funny that Physicians think people will need them to hand them a permission slip and directions on how to use marijuana medicinally.

It's actually true. A lot of people have "white coat syndrome;" without an authority figure to tell them how to use medicine, they're at a loss.

It's (part) the reason that even in California, where it's easy to obtain a recommendation, lots of people with highly applicable illnesses are not using cannabis and don't have a real concept of how it would help them (MS, IBS, SCI, and more, pretty much anything, I've met the people).

With cannabis that authority figure doesn't need to be a Doctor though. I've seen it be a son or daughter, a grandson or granddaughter, or even a friend or neighbor. Just someone the person trusts. But most people over 40 don't trust the internet implicitly enough to be reading up on the health benefits of cannabis and actually be willing to take that step.
 
My dad has been saying he wants to try weed for years when he retires. That is comming soon. His plans? Go to colorado where.its legal.

The man is going multiple states away because he still cant think for himself. Same guy that stopped giving a fuck what I did literally the day I turnes 18, because he wasnt legally responsible for me. Except he still wouldnt buy me alcohol or drink with me until I was 21. He has always been extremely legalistic and really has a hard time forming his own opinions aboit things. He just mostly parrots the most popular interpretation of legality.

There are many many people like this.
 
So MMJ could be a solution for decreasing the amount of prescription opioids in public circulation...but i guess making life harder for legitimate chronic pain opiate takers by rationing opioids to everyone including the people that really need them is a better approach.

giving the people that would like to be off opioids but have no alternative is not a bettter option for decreasing opioid scripts? I can't think of a single non opioid and non addictive effective pain medicine for certain conditions besides MJ

obviously its not about what works or is medically best. its about politics and anti pot propaganda

they don't even need to make mmj legal....just approve marinol for pain. Docs give out 30 mg oxys ready for injection like nothing...but marinol is only reserved for cancer patients on their death bed. medicine is politics bbitch
 
:\ Many, like I, cannot obtain MMJ for acute/chronic pain every fucking breath I take. Believe me, I'm trying!


I'm willing to risk covert measures to get MMJ, but no one will help me (besides my dear friend who is fighting his own battle--and losing--with cancer).

I am expecting 2 syringes of RSO any day (to try). If it does work, I doubt I'll be able to get more. I can't burden him/his wife.

How am I suppose to travel across 3+ states to Colorado to "sample" MMJ? Who the fuck can afford the time off work, the travel expenses, then the cost of the MMJ?

BTW...I can't tolerate the opiates prescribed by my PM doctor. They choke my bowels/bladder. I'm fighting for 9 months now just to keep my colon. The despair whispers constantly in my ear..."Just exit this shit sundae of a life".

I would have ended this pain a decade ago. I don't want to leave my husband of 35 years behind, wondering what he could have done to ease my suffering.
 
:\ Many, like I, cannot obtain MMJ for acute/chronic pain every fucking breath I take. Believe me, I'm trying!


I'm willing to risk covert measures to get MMJ, but no one will help me (besides my dear friend who is fighting his own battle--and losing--with cancer).

I am expecting 2 syringes of RSO any day (to try). If it does work, I doubt I'll be able to get more. I can't burden him/his wife.

How am I suppose to travel across 3+ states to Colorado to "sample" MMJ? Who the fuck can afford the time off work, the travel expenses, then the cost of the MMJ?

BTW...I can't tolerate the opiates prescribed by my PM doctor. They choke my bowels/bladder. I'm fighting for 9 months now just to keep my colon. The despair whispers constantly in my ear..."Just exit this shit sundae of a life".

I would have ended this pain a decade ago. I don't want to leave my husband of 35 years behind, wondering what he could have done to ease my suffering.

not sure what kind of pain you have...but in my case MJ made the pain worse everytime...i know it does work for certain types of pain for others though
 
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