Solipsis
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Hi
I've been having a very rough time that led to me starting to use opiates daily, and grow a tolerance. I used to take oxy and went up to 60-70 mg a day by using 10 mg IR capsules. The actual daily use has been maybe 3 months.
Recently my oxy contact dropped off the radar (may just be on vacation), so I switched to my stash of raw opium - what should be the equivalency if we consider the O to have 10% morphine: about 500 mg per day orally.
I got psychiatric help for high functioning autism but they are not really that versed in addiction. And the tapering schedule I found online for hospital patients on pain meds mentioned something like 10% lower dose every 5-7 days. That seems *much* slower / longer than the 1-2 weeks tapering total that I see mentioned here on the forum.
(Is it smart for my situation to see if they can prescibe a mixed agonist antagonist like buprenorphine, or will that get me further away from home?)
I am a bit afraid that an extremely slow taper may be both drawing it out too long to stay disciplined but obviously quitting too fast will have a great chance of failure / relapse. Also a very drawn out taper will cost a lot of opium and time, I don't want to calculate in my failure too much, but I want to be able to afford it of course.
Another thing that I am considering is extracting my morphine from the opium and converting it to dipropanoylmorphine and insufflate that (to avoid having a lot metabolized back to morphine too quickly). May be stupid cause a rush is definitely not what I need to quit, but long halflife and higher potency seems both more economical and more suited for tapering.
I think I will use maybe 10g of opium for this conversion, and keep the rest to be sure that I won't be forced to go cold turkey.
I can arrange for basically constant supervision / help with administration of drugs to taper and have a safe to secure any drugs. I also have benzo's and can of course get OTC meds or prescriptions to help my withdrawals. So I am not looking for what is most commonly done, but what would be ideal for my recovery.
Can people who have experience with successful taperings give some advice on how quickly or slowly to taper? How much risk at protracted withdrawals do I have with my few-month habit?
I have personal experience with coming off of benzo's after a year of daily use and I rarely take them anymore since they are not recreational for me and I have other meds prescribed to make sure that I have no real need for frequent benzo use. So yeah I know about having to fight a protracted withdrawal syndrome for over a year.
(Posting standard links to FAQs and lists is fine - I have used the search engine and am resourceful, and have a decent understanding of many drug related things, but advice I have found so far similar to: "try to take as little as possible to feel remotely okay, and take a little less each day" is way too vague for me.)
P.S. I am also on daily prescibed pregabalin (~150 mg a day now)
I've been having a very rough time that led to me starting to use opiates daily, and grow a tolerance. I used to take oxy and went up to 60-70 mg a day by using 10 mg IR capsules. The actual daily use has been maybe 3 months.
Recently my oxy contact dropped off the radar (may just be on vacation), so I switched to my stash of raw opium - what should be the equivalency if we consider the O to have 10% morphine: about 500 mg per day orally.
I got psychiatric help for high functioning autism but they are not really that versed in addiction. And the tapering schedule I found online for hospital patients on pain meds mentioned something like 10% lower dose every 5-7 days. That seems *much* slower / longer than the 1-2 weeks tapering total that I see mentioned here on the forum.
(Is it smart for my situation to see if they can prescibe a mixed agonist antagonist like buprenorphine, or will that get me further away from home?)
I am a bit afraid that an extremely slow taper may be both drawing it out too long to stay disciplined but obviously quitting too fast will have a great chance of failure / relapse. Also a very drawn out taper will cost a lot of opium and time, I don't want to calculate in my failure too much, but I want to be able to afford it of course.
Another thing that I am considering is extracting my morphine from the opium and converting it to dipropanoylmorphine and insufflate that (to avoid having a lot metabolized back to morphine too quickly). May be stupid cause a rush is definitely not what I need to quit, but long halflife and higher potency seems both more economical and more suited for tapering.
I think I will use maybe 10g of opium for this conversion, and keep the rest to be sure that I won't be forced to go cold turkey.
I can arrange for basically constant supervision / help with administration of drugs to taper and have a safe to secure any drugs. I also have benzo's and can of course get OTC meds or prescriptions to help my withdrawals. So I am not looking for what is most commonly done, but what would be ideal for my recovery.
Can people who have experience with successful taperings give some advice on how quickly or slowly to taper? How much risk at protracted withdrawals do I have with my few-month habit?
I have personal experience with coming off of benzo's after a year of daily use and I rarely take them anymore since they are not recreational for me and I have other meds prescribed to make sure that I have no real need for frequent benzo use. So yeah I know about having to fight a protracted withdrawal syndrome for over a year.
(Posting standard links to FAQs and lists is fine - I have used the search engine and am resourceful, and have a decent understanding of many drug related things, but advice I have found so far similar to: "try to take as little as possible to feel remotely okay, and take a little less each day" is way too vague for me.)
P.S. I am also on daily prescibed pregabalin (~150 mg a day now)
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