I am on a suboxone therapy.
2mg-4mg total per day / IV route / 2-3 injections.
I ingested orally 1; 20mg of generic (pink pin-wheel) amphetamine salts (aka Adderall)
I took the drug at 11:30pm. I remember thinking that was a stupid idea, to get jacked up at the time for sleep. To my amazement I actually fell asleep for 1 hour. I took the adderall and 15mins passed and I lay down.
I awake feeling no "upper" feelings. No typical amphetamine side-effects...
I am very experienced in both categories of drugs. It also might be worth noting I did take 3 glasses of wine from like 9pm-10:30pm. Anyways, I had no dry mouth, no euphoria, no jaw oscillations.
All of these happen to me at the 15mg+ amount. I take no dopamine antagonist either.
I only feel slightly more awake than normal...I could easily go back to sleep. The only thing I noticed was an increased heart-rate. I was really aware of my heart beats, but it wasn't tachycardia. It was under 100bpm. Tachycardia is also ALWAYS present.
I doubt its from the alcohol, it had to be the suboxone. Even that theory doesn't make sense to me. Suboxone has nothing to do with DA receptors. Activation of mu receptors can enhance DA, but it can't modulate them downwards, you know?
I read some forums and I seem to be the only one who has reported such. Could I just be that tired? I have been on suboxone for 6months, so its not like the dose it too strong for me.
I like captain hero have found that 2mg IV is plenty of suboxone for like almost 90% of the population. Since all 2mgs enter than brain, its like Im actually taking 4mg+ sub lingual. (sublingual has like a 40-50% BIOA)
Just to say this and Im done.
I don't think people realize how potent buprenorphine is. Especially when its injected into the veins. I think the dosage ceiling starts at 8-12mg and not 32mg. I have found that injecting (suboxone) more than 4mg doesn't nothing more than 1 or 2mg. I understand that might have something to do with the naloxone, as I have never injected pure buprenorphine. I honestly think the naloxone does nothing except slow the buprenorphine from binding to the receptors for 10mins or less.
It just amazing how stupid people are with this idea of naloxone causing the mu-antagonist properties of Suboxone...
Okay thanks all..