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ADD diagnosis and drug tests

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fuzzysun

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hello, new member :)

I've searched the forums for info about this but couldnt find a satisfactory answer to my questions

I am seeing a psychiatrist in a few weeks regarding ADD. I am pretty certain I have it and my GP seemed to think it was a reasonable possiblity so he referred me to the specialist.

The problem is that over the last 6-7 months, i've had a pretty sizeable ganja habit (at the heaviest about an oz a month, usually about half that) and i am worried that this will put the psych off prescribing meds or even giving me a diagnosis. Is it best to come clean with them about this kinda thing? If not, some abstaining is in order, as I have heard they do drug tests (and then periodically from then on).

Regarding the tests, are all psychiatrists guaranteed to do this or does it vary from doc to doc? Will a positive result for cannabis (and only cannabis) mean no meds? I would have thought positives for meth would be of most concern to them, but I have no idea really. Weed is the only thing I'm worried about testing positive for.

If I abstain from now on, is there a chance i could be clean after having smoked on average about 10 or 15 cones a day (other than the last week where i probably smoked about 8 cones for the week, and several other periods of a few days when I was dry) for the last 6-7 months ? I would imagine any initial drug test would be done within a couple of weeks of the consultation.

I'm in WA if its relevant. Hopefully there are a few people on this forum who have gone through this process and can give me some answers :)
 
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i am adhd inattentive type, and i have never heard of this drug testing.

i am in the same sit, as far as the weed goes, and i dont thiink the psyc has picked up on it yet. i have to go to him every 6 months for a new script and thatss it. i sit there and talk to him (usually about some trivial shit which comes up in our discussion).

[EDIT: Comment removed, see my post below. hoptis]
 
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I was honest with my psychiatrist when he asked about the drugs i had used, Mdma etc. He seemed very understanding about it as most people who see psychiatrist's have use of have used drugs in the past. It is very productive not to dodge and duck these question's etc because it may hamper your treatment etc.

I am still being tossed different meds etc and have currently been put on dex amphetamine to see if it will help my condition and he had no problem prescibing.

Although, because drugs like this are an authority controlled substance if you have criminal records, drugs convictions etc standing against your name it may be a problem to be treated with these substances. As they may just think you want to gain access to these substances for recreational and trafficing purposes.

I have not heard of drug tests being done by level headed psychiatrist, GP's. Although if they think you may be withholding the truth from them i guess it may be possible. I don't think they would mind if your were smoking Weed though as im sure more that half of Oz do.

Good luck, im sure it won't be a problem
 
Thanks for the replies :)

[EDIT: Comment removed, see my post below. hoptis]

I've heard from a friend that he was tested, and continues to be every 4 months (or something), as are his friends who also have ADD (or at least have a dex script), but they all see the same guy.

One thing the search returned was a guy saying his friend was turned down for even saying he had tried weed, it seemed a bit unrealistic to me but it has me a bit concerned. I also would think the doc will regard occasional use much differently to my kind of use. I legitimately want to sort this out, and just want the doc to take me and my symptoms seriously. And I really don't want to be having to see several psychs until I find one who will, with the price of the consultations.
 
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I live in queensland, Conveniently enough only state where 5-htp is legal to.

I personally haven't heard of anyone being drug tested here for these meds. Most of the doc's here are pretty level headed. The only reason why you might be would if you might have had drug use charges to your name, and you would more likely be asked to do it from medication authority's then your doctor.

You may find when you first start on these meds for treatment your should completely stop using weed(atleast for a trial). As these meds will help your mind relax and concentrate more proficently, unless you end up not having add/adhd and they might just make you wanna do helps more shit.
 
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I was actually probably gonna quit the weed for a while anyway. Its no good at all for my motivation, which is low as it is. The highs arent what they used to be either. Its hard quitting tho when you live with a mother and a stepfather who both smoke :X

When did you guys get diagnosed? If you were diagnosed as kids, that might be a reason you don't get tested. ADHD is supposedly easy to fake, I wouldnt be surprised if the docs wanted to make sure they werent giving the drugs to someone just after prescription speed. I would imagine they may treat young adults with more suspicion than they do kids, surely they are hip to what goes on with dexies.

[EDIT: Comment removed, see my post below. hoptis]
 
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fair enough.

i was just curious if it was the same guy. there arent exactly an abundance of psychiatrists.

like i said, i just want to be taken seriously and get it sorted. if he gave me strattera and it worked id be satisfied.
 
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i think you'll find it is a FUCK load harder to get diagnosed with ADD then you think..its a massively yrly based diagnosis stratagies and from what i can tell people going to there psychiatrist telling them they think they have ADD..the majority of psychs wont even look at ya unless you've got ALL the symptoms at a very young age, as it doesnt just pop up in your teans, your grow up as a child with it, so basically @ 19 and claiming to have it, the guys and gal docs just basically laugh at ya mon!
 
you coul dbe using weed to "self-medicate"..... any good psyc knows that this is a very common occurence.... for some people, weed makes them feel "level" heavy use might actually be an indication to the doc that you may have something that needs treatment....
 
so basically @ 19 and claiming to have it, the guys and gal docs just basically laugh at ya mon!
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this is so untrue tiesto.
inattentive ADD usually takes years to get noticed.....
 
i know that a friend of mine goes to the same doctor that i do and h has to get tested every month with no repeats on his dexies.
its some law or duty of care that if you show or have shown any addictive personality trends - like my doc said i couldn't have them if i drank alcohol too offen or more than 4 drinks a day.
i know someone who got rejected for saying they smoked pot. - and they had been on dexies for years. but i also know people who get dexies and tell there doc everything they choof take pills etc. and the doc was cool with that. the same doctor said meth is good for ADD people.

[EDIT: No doctor-shopping tips. hoptis]

i live in WA the most heavily perscribed dex state in OZ
 
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this is so untrue tiesto.
inattentive ADD usually takes years to get noticed.....
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LMFAO - and many people have been diagnosed with inattentive ADD over the age of 20yrs old in the last 10yrs? ;p prolly somewhere around NIL!
 
In QLD you will be required to do random drug tests.... its required by the health department... for dex and ritalin.
 
yeah, i have heard psychs vary A LOT in their willingness to prescribe these kinds of drugs.

for example, i've heard of an anorexic chick being prescribed dexies (for ADD, but still...)!!! bizarre.
 
yes, i know.

it certainly worsens it a bit for me (part of why i stopped), but i had the symptoms prior to ever using marijuana, and they have continued since stopping.
 
I must say if you go into a doctor worried about having something, eg add,adhd, depression. They may just think your shopping for drugs, and you've probly done a lot of home work especially if you basically read out the stock standard table of symptoms, instead of explaining whats been happening in your life.

It is there job to figure out what is wrong with you and you shouldnt be self diagnosing yourself, this may also worsen your mood and charisma which will also make you think your diagnoses is definitely the right one.

If you can see that you have a problem this is a really good start but self diagnoses is not. Just go to your doctor and explain whats been happening in your life and how this problem has been affecting it, and hopefully you will come to the right outcome... not necessarily strait away.

Don't shop for doctors, and if you think your drug use will get in the way of a succesful treatment and your not willing to stop even just for a while you may just be sabotageing yourself.
 
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