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ADD/ADHD Diagnosis - (dex)amphetamines.

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Hugs & Drugs

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Hi all :)

I have recently been referred to by a local GP to a psychiatrist concerning diagnosis and treatment of add/adhd

I'm not positive as to whether I have add/adhd or not, as my motivation, procrastination and overall level of attention has been getting worse and worse over the years.

However, research has led me to believe that one must have shown add symptoms from the age of seven, or younger.
I was somewhat hyperactive as a child, but relating this to adhd would be naive of me...

I was just wondering whether anyone had any relevant info that could help me
Or any insight on the matter...?
Any information would be appreciated
(y)

Cheers :D
 
sounds more like you're interested in the drugs more than the issue.

I exhibit all of the symptoms you describe, but i think im just lazy, unmotivated and uselss. I have extreme attention to detail when it comes to study of things im interested, playing video games, and generally not cleaning up or working. I put these things off, or don't do them at all.

I avoid even the vague possibility of this disorder because i dont want to be jacked up on amps all day, and have trouble sleeping. not my idea of a fun life
 
haha
prescription of dexamphet is my main interest yess

however, i'm not a huge fun of amphets for recreational use (i prefer acid and pills)
i actually wish to use them as an aid to schoolwork and study

i guess time will tell
when i see the psych hmmm..
 
I was diagnosed with ADD/ADHD as a child (10years old) and was medicated accordingly with dexamphetamine (among others, ritalin, clonodine to help me sleep, etc). I hated this diagnosis due to the stigma and I was in denial, thinking I was just a hyperactive misbehaved child, and that all kids are like that. Whilst on the medications, my school grades improved, I was able to socialise, make friends, and I was generally more focused with anything I put my mind to.
As soon as I ceased the medication (by choice, at 15years old) I was happy, but my motivation levels decreased, I have never held a job for very long as I get bored way too quickly, my attention span is all over the place, I find it difficult to socialise properly as I am always too fidgety, and I never, ever, want to do things that bore me. Even when something is "greatly interesting" I can still never hold my attention to it for long.

Now being 25, I actually think that the initial diagnosis was correct. I too have the same issue as you. I am just too scared to seek treatment as I dont really like the idea of again being treated with meds, but I acknowledge that I was indeed better whilst on dexamphetamine.
I'm not sure what info you're looking for here, but I just wanted to let you know that you're not alone.

I disagree with MrIbis above (not to flame btw :) ) In my experience, dexamphetamine taken in low doses (5mg in my case) does not amp you up, it calms you down. I've noticed that within myself.
Its when you start taking heaps of them at the same time that it jacks you up and have trouble sleeping. I'm actually thinking of requesting a psych assessment for the same reason as Hugs&drugs.. this doesnt mean I'm more interested in the drugs, it means I acknowledge that a particular medication helped me, and this might help in the OP's case.

Other things, such as diet changes, etc, can help.. Drugs arent usually the answer, but some people need them to function normally.

Good luck HUgs&drugs, sorry I couldnt help further :)
 
cheers for that :)

yeeh im really not sure what the go is within myself
as my bad traits have been continuing to get worse, and i feel useless to fix them
so im really not sure where i stand...

i'm not sure what to expect when i go to the psych
which is why i was enquiring on info

i have had street speed before
and i honestly didn't get that amped up
i only felt like socialising more and some euphoria
i was not nearly as "amped" as my mates
(dunno if that has any relevance lol)

anywayy thanks for the comment
i appreciate it
(y)
 
"haha
prescription of dexamphet is my main interest yess"

You'll get addicted in no time, when you first take amps you feel like a rockstar, prolonged daily use will make you loony.
 
I was diagnosed with ADHD when i was 7 years old and have been on dexamphetamine since. i'm now dependent on the stuff. I cannot imagine a week without my 25mg per day to help me function with the rest of the world. its been a blessing for me that this medicine exists. without it i find it hard to concentrate on the smallest things.

this medication will change your life. so please don't get into it for the wrong reasons.
 
I was taking it for 5 years. The only symptoms I felt when I ceased taking it suddenly, was the lack of motivation & lack of focus. I dropped out of school a few months later.

Thing is, my parents were making me take 13 dexamphetamines in the morning (5mg each, equalling 65mg just to start the day) and a further 7 at night, mixed with 3 clonodine. Again, I had no physical adverse affects when I suddenly stopped taking it, apart from my life turning to shit lol
I suppose everyone handles medications differently ;)

dj esky, how old are you? (out of curiosity) what would happen if you didnt have 25mg daily? like if you were to stop? And how has your dexie use affected you positively? I'm interested in hearing more.
 
haha
i can see what you mean about addiction
but honestly, i value my health quite a bit as well
...whats the point of having fun if you're gonna be fucked up later in life? lol

jesus, 65mg sounds like an incredibly huge dose
also, tolerance is a cunt (so keeping my use on a low would be preferable)
:)

this is actually my last year of school
and i may not be correct, but i believe i will be able to focus my studies much better with medication (rather than just use recreationally) ...i prefer pills and acid recreationally anywayy
i have the knowledge, just not the willpower and motivation :\

francefreak and dj esky: i assume it was compulsory to have frequent appointments with your psychiastrist/pediatrician?
i also heard that symptoms must be ongoing for 6 months+
...is this the case?

thanks for the insight :)
 
H&D - I was taken to what I thought was a dodgy doctor/psychiatrist, and only 1 appointment seemed to be necessary - it seemed that I was taken in, and after a 15 minute assessment, came out diagnosed with ADD and with a prescription for dexies. The doctor was either really good, or really dodgy. Up until recently, I thought the latter, but now I reckon the doc was actually correct :( wanted to make another appointment with him as an adult, but now he's retired.. spewin lol

Symptoms must have been exhibited by age seven, and for a period of 6 months or more. You're right there. That is the case for children. But we as adults, I'm not so sure about. I'm actually gonna make an appt with a psych to see if my previous doctor was right. Hoping for no meds, but if I gotta do it, I gotta do it. Thanking you hugs&drugs, as this has been on my mind for about 5 years now :) youve given me motivation I needed. Seems I'm not alone here.

Yea my dose was quite massive for a kid who was only 10 years old.. But I blamed my parents for that, it seemed they just wanted to cover up my issues with drugs. This affected my self esteem and how I felt about my parents and I no longer speak to my mother (my dad has since died) As my dosage increased, so did my energy levels, and I stayed at about 43 kilo's because I was somewhat "amped" on such a high dosage.

I heard somewhere that ADHD can be hereditary. Do you have background info on your parents? Any of them diagnosed with it themselves, or exhibit symptoms?

One other thing. Your "adhd" might not be ADHD. It may be something else. Substance abuse can also cause lack of concentration, and procrastination, etc, etc. But only a psychiatrist can confirm that, and yes, frequent appts may be necessary.

HUgs&drugs - When's your appointment?

P.S- sorry for the long posts, this is a subject that hits rather close to home for me...
 
Im in about the same situation as Hugs and Drugs.

I was actually meant to be having my first appointment with a phsychiatrist today, but suprise suprise I forgot all about it and slept straight through it. :!

I'm also hoping to get a prescription for dex-amp if I am indeed diagnosed although I have no intention of abusing it. Ive had these symptoms for as long as I can remember but up until recently I've just dealt with them and gotton by with plain old natural intelligence. Now I'm studying pharmacy and things all of a sudden require more attention than I can give. I very nearly got the arse from my previous university to.

My question is, when I do actually make it to the phsych's office should I be 100% open with my drug usage?

Considering my chosen career path I'd very much like for very little or none of the details about my usage to be on record, and also feel that it could be detrimental to me obtaining medication for treatment.

I smoke weed on pretty much a daily basis, and have used just about anything and everything in the past but with little frequency.

I've always been against stimulants, seeing them mainly as a waste of time but I really do feel that they could help me with my studies which are getting increasingly difficult and I have no intention of fucking up another degree.

Should I just be entirely open, or try and play it down? Maybe even forget to mention it entirely?
 
haha if only all docotrs were so enthusiastic and straight to the point..
:\

well i was always somewhat "hyperactive" as a child
but regarding these adhd symptoms...im not too sure, hmm

haha no worries mann
im glad we are on the same/similar level on the topic :)

fairly certain cousins of mine have been diagnosed, not positive though
however, neither my mum or dad have had adhd

actually its quite the contrary, i used to use drugs much more
these days i dont even drink alcohol much (pretty ironic ayee) haha
its early march, i still have to tell my mum about it, dunno how to bring it up.. :\
(as i went to the doctor and made the appointment myself)

all the best for youu though, hope it all works out
(y)

to L3inad:
"I smoke weed on pretty much a daily basis, and have used just about anything and everything in the past but with little frequency."

if you are looking for a less complicated and possibly quicker diagnosis, i would not recommend mentioning daily pot-smoking. As that in itself can be very bad for motivation and procrastination
and since they do not wish to diagnose you with adhd and prescribe medication (as its last resort)
the blame will be put on habitual marijuana use (which actually could be a major factor) instead of adhd
 
L3inad said:
My question is, when I do actually make it to the phsych's office should I be 100% open with my drug usage?

Considering my chosen career path I'd very much like for very little or none of the details about my usage to be on record, and also feel that it could be detrimental to me obtaining medication for treatment.

I smoke weed on pretty much a daily basis, and have used just about anything and everything in the past but with little frequency.
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If you disclose that you smoke weed or use any other drugs, or have it on your record that you've used drugs you will be required by law to take supervised weekly drug tests (atleast in WA) - the results of these tests are upto your psychiatrist what to do with though. So basically you'd have to give up the daily weed smoking, which I'd highly advise that you do anyway if you're on a medication like dexamp. Daily use of weed and dexamp would make you go loopy pretty quickly and worsen your mental state. It's also pretty counterproductive if your trying to improve your concertration/focus.

I'm prescribed dexamp and had to take weekly drug tests for a couple months as I've got a history of drug use (hospital visits etc). Prior to being scripted the dexamp I was a heavy/daily weed smoker and since being on the dex I've cut my smoking back to once a fortnight at most now which my psychiatrist is happy about at the moment, a different psychiatrist might think 'not good enough' and cut your meds off. As I was obviously still showing small amounts of THC in my urine, but the fact those levels have lowered considerably is good enough for him. My last test showed up as clean as far as I'm aware so the tests have gone from weekly to monthly now.
 
Dex

The problem with D-amp is, a 5-15mg dose banishes fatigue and lifts peoples mood-ADD or not.


"Thing is, my parents were making me take 13 dexamphetamines in the morning (5mg each, equalling 65mg just to start the day) and a further 7 at night,"

OMG 100mg Dexamphetamine! FOR A 10 YO!!8o unbelievable. The highest i'v seen here in NZ is a guy on 16 tabs=80mgs a day after 18 years. It seems as if D-amp is scripted far more often in Aus, from what i read. Here it's mostly MPD and i'v met senior pharmacists who have never dispenseded it.

"I have recently been referred to by a local GP to a psychiatrist concerning diagnosis and treatment of add/adhd"

I always thought i had anxiety disorder, was sent to a top Psych who 'introduced' the idea of impulsive, concentrational,......ADD symptoms and i was shocked, never thought of it, and started me on ritalin 10mg BD. I laughed and said thats for kids isn't it?, he said no and most of the patients prefered it.

Three years later on 80mgs a day, i see him again, by this time there were 'issues' with the MPD, and told him i had tried 1, 5mg D-amp pill and it completly shut my mind up, and it sent me into a DEEP 2 hour sleep, which felt like 8 hours, so he scripted me 20mgs daily.

One month later my GP freaked at me being given 'speed' and had a script for MPD waiting at reception.

I'v recently started back on Ritalin, but remember the Dex being smoother and more calming, so i'll figure out what to say i guess.

I also remember it diminished my alcohol cravings-interesting as it used to be indicated for alcoholism at 30mgs


"I'm not positive as to whether I have add/adhd or not, as my motivation, procrastination and overall level of attention has been getting worse and worse over the years."

Maybe alot of folks have a little add/adhd, just as alot of folks get 'depressed':\
 
"Maybe alot of folks have a little add/adhd, just as alot of folks get 'depressed :\"

probably true to some degree
although i think this may be more lifestyle related and issues in life
rather than an on -going problem
but thats just my two cents...

"If you disclose that you smoke weed or use any other drugs, or have it on your record that you've used drugs you will be required by law to take supervised weekly drug tests"

if this was myself, i would certainly not disclose such information
however, i concur that habitual marijuana use is quite detrimental for motivation and procrastination
and therefore should probably be resolved (less frequent use) before seeing a psychiatrist

i just had one final question...
if i had not showed adhd symptoms from the age of 7
what does this mean?
can i still be diagnosed with adhd? as i have heard (and believe) that many sufferers of adhd go untreated :\

i just hope my family are understanding of the situation
it shall be a strange road ahead, and hopefully a positive one :)

thanks for all the input people
much appreciated

would love to hear of anyone else with similar issues
or in a similar situation
 
yes indeed i do have to have a check up every 6 months, full physical mental check.
 
I find I need at least 15mg to get some kind of buzz

And to my knowledge I'm not ADHD.... just had a daily ice habit for a little while, which finished up about 18 months ago... have only recently (in the past month) kicked my weekly speed use, due to finances/lack of worthwhile gear/living at home, but still, the stimulant tolerance doesn't go away it seems! :!
 
If you tell a Doc you use drugs, non-threaputically, they will write KDA (known drug abuser) on your chart.

"i just had one final question...
if i had not showed adhd symptoms from the age of 7
what does this mean?
can i still be diagnosed with adhd? as i have heard (and believe) that many sufferers of adhd go untreated"

I was 'dianosed at 31, but the Doc DID ask me to bring in early school reports.
 
"the stimulant tolerance doesn't go away it seems!"

I'v been told one never quite gets over a speed jones-at any age. That zen-like state of blowing/banging ice
 
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