Acl reconstruction #2, thread 2, more help!

[56nights]

Okay so I have ran into a problem. I explained in detail my pain to my surgeon and he offered NOTHING! ZIP! I have 10 percocet 10s left, i been taking 2 every 6 hours like he says and it barely allows me to move out of my bed. Im going to run out soon, im scared he wont offer a refill, (none given on bottle). I have physical therapy next week. Should I tell my physical therapist about it and ask for a pain management doctor if the pain persists? I cannot raise my leg high enough to get in bed on my own without medicine to help. Im not abusing at all just severe pain on surgery 2.

I have anthem blue cross blue sheild ppo. I dont think i need a referral for a pain management doctor, so I am going to see where my pain is at in a week when i go to PT. Any recommendation on how to go about a pain management doc or info about referrals?

Ps on my history it does show "hs of drug abuse", but in order to get klonopin from my ordinary physician i signed the papers and took drug tests, so i figured they would do the same which is not a problem i no longer use drugs. I also am interested in massag therapy as well not just medical.

Im in a world of agony, someone help me with getting a doctor to actually fucking listen and help with pain! I have holes drilled through my knee! Twice through! Its totally ridiculous to ignore a patient in pain because of this! My quality of life is awful!

 

[shartito]

Sorry man. That’s the opiaod paranoia and media-fed panicked world we live in these days.

I think a pain management specialist is the best logical next step.

 

[56nights]

Sorry man. That’s the opiaod paranoia and media-fed panicked world we live in these days.

I think a pain management specialist is the best logical next step.

Ive never had experience with this sort of stuff before. Is a referral really needed or could I just call around? I mean i have all MRIs and xrays documenting all the way back from 2015. My lastest ones show the ACL repair, some meniscus damage my insurance denied to treat, and LCL damage also untreated. Im thinking if I could just go there and allow them access to all my records they would be able to help me.

 

[56nights]

I didnt even need a referral to talk to my ortho specialist through my insurance, I would assume that it would work the same with pain management. Maybe someone will help!

 

[Anonymous Dissident]

I'm in a similar position while awaiting an upcoming hip reconstruction. I poorly tolerate opioids in general, so I've found a few things that can help mitigate pain which you may find useful.

2nd plateau DXM dosages
Kratom
Marijuana edibles are better for pain over smoked, though YMMV
EtOH
Salvia Nemororsa extraction orally or smoked (it's a ubiquitous as both a wild flower and a common xeriscaping plant, so I have access to nearly unlimited quantities and had enough to create a protocol to maintain it's oils, alkaloids, terpines, and all other components preserved due to it's rapid loss of potency, but it's too in depth for this thread).
Mulungu
Glaucine
Lidocaine patches


I'll be trying a few more things in coming weeks, I'll let you know if any are effective, all the things listed above provide above-placebo, repeatable effects. BTW, all are legal to my knowledge.

 

[T. Calderone]

What I would do is start making some phone calls now in order to get an appointment with a pain management specialist. You may have to wait for an opening though. They will ask for your insurance information and let you know if a referral is needed. When you get there, bring all your documentation with you because they will need it. Being that you don't have many tablets left, can you alternate doses between ibuprofen or naproxen?

 

[56nights]

What I would do is start making some phone calls now in order to get an appointment with a pain management specialist. You may have to wait for an opening though. They will ask for your insurance information and let you know if a referral is needed. When you get there, bring all your documentation with you because they will need it. Being that you don't have many tablets left, can you alternate doses between ibuprofen or naproxen?

Thats what I have been doing, trying to use naproxen and tylenol and save my pain meds for the last minute needs. Good lord I see everyones pain, they make managing pain so hard because of "risks". Im signing myself up knowing what risks i take! I just wanna handle this pain.

 

[T. Calderone]

I'm in a similar position while awaiting an upcoming hip reconstruction. I poorly tolerate opioids in general, so I've found a few things that can help mitigate pain which you may find useful.

2nd plateau DXM dosages
Kratom
Marijuana edibles are better for pain over smoked, though YMMV
EtOH
Salvia Nemororsa extraction orally or smoked (it's a ubiquitous as both a wild flower and a common xeriscaping plant, so I have access to nearly unlimited quantities and had enough to create a protocol to maintain it's oils, alkaloids, terpines, and all other components preserved due to it's rapid loss of potency, but it's too in depth for this thread).
Mulungu
Glaucine
Lidocaine patches




I'll be trying a few more things in coming weeks, I'll let you know if any are effective, all the things listed above provide above-placebo, repeatable effects. BTW, all are legal to my knowledge.

I would be interested in new pain relief options so let me know if you find any of these effective.

OP, were you able to book an appointment?

 

[downerhead]

I have chronic pain which is pretty severe, from a blown out knee 20 years ago. Part of that involved reconstructing my ACL by slicing the middle third of my petellar tendon, making that my new ACL, drilling holes thru my bones and securing the new ACL with 2 screws. I also have three pins in my knee for some reason (it's been a long time) and I've been on opioids daily ever since. IDK how old you are or how old you injury and surgery are but trust me, you will need pain management. My knee hurts like a bitch constantly, I'm 43 and walk (or rather limp) with a cane, and it seems there is a new set of rules and laws every year to make it harder to get RXd enough of a strong enough opioid painkiller. I feel you OP, we're going thru a lot of the same crap.

I can tell you that the pain will get more and more as you get older. I became addicted to heroin for many years and, since quitting H, I have to settle for roxys. I got bounced off one pain doc and my new one, that I'll have my 3rd visit with a week from now, has me on half my dose (45mg/day, my regular dose, which I had been on for years, is 90mg per day. With my pain and tolerance levels even 90mg of roxy per day was under medicated, but in today's climate I took it and was thankful to get it. I'm praying he raises my dose back to 90mg of roxy per day now that he has the x-ray report he ordered). I really need more, but I'll take 90mg/day and be grateful. This half my dose shit isn't doing much. IDK where you live but, where I am, you need a referral for pain management. I'm also self pay so insurance might play into the equation. Good luck to us both and keep us posted on your getting pain management. It's a shame that we're treated like babies and told what we can put into our own bodies and how much we can have (after begging for it and being stigmatized).