Mr Horse I was rather surprised at your comments regarding popper's synth descriptions, although I admit I never actually saw the post before editing. I know this is not the Hive, but it would hardly be worth going there if you didn’t know most of this stuff already.
Poppers statement about misinformation is very relevant. How many people think after hearing it stated on JJJ, that PMA is usually made as a side reaction product of MDMA?
Effective harm minimisation to me is achieved by having a broad knowledge of the drug you intend to take. Understanding the manufacturing procedure does not imply for one minute that you intend to make it. It does however allow you to evaluate the pros and cons of using it, with a much greater insight into the substance e.g. knowing how likely is it that something other than your desired product may be in your gram.
The synthesis of methylamphetamine from pseudo is a fairly simple procedure, although it doesn’t mean it can’t be done incorrectly. Much of the meth made in Australia uses compounds other than RP in the production of the halo acid. These may in turn be made from other reactants, introducing possible variables such as side reaction products or solvent contamination at each step. This reduction can also produce aldol condensation products, which is somewhat surprising as this reaction is not expected from the usual conditions employed in pseudo reduction.
http://rhodium.ws/chemistry/meth.impurities.html
http://rhodium.ws/chemistry/meth.forensic.html (this one is heavy reading but worth a look)
http://www.undcp.org/bulletin/bulletin_1981-01-01_3_page005.html
I believe most amphetamine in Australia was once sourced mainly from diverted prescriptions for ADD etc. Dex is simply the dextrorotatory form - as mentioned - the active isomer. While much may now come from Asia, I’ll bet Dex, or its relative methylphenidate (Ritalin) still remains a consistent and pure source of “up-stuff” for many.
Plague_ Bearer the reason pure rock or concentrate gets like baby food is that methylamphetamine salts are hygroscopic, and thus will attract moisture and go gooey. Sulphate salts I think are less prone to this than the hydrochloride. Your crystal is probably less pure and so does not absorb so much so quickly.
From:
www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/hygroscopic.html
A hygroscopic material (literally "water seeking") is one that readily absorbs water (usually from the atmosphere). In most cases, the water can be removed from the material by heating (sometimes under vacuum or under a flow of dry gas such as nitrogen).
For a more complete story:
http://www.rotronic-usa.com/v2/products/aw/aw_define.htm
A major deterrent that comes from understanding the chemistry of drugs is that you realize any production in the hands of novices, means there is much that can go wrong.
What chemistry qualifications does your cook have? Most meth cooks I’ve heard of follow a recipe, and are unaware of most if not all of the chemistry going on. - the ‘little bit of this and a little bit of that’ philosophy - And many don’t even know what an acid / base extraction is, although they are performing such.
Don’t wish to flame your good work Mr H, but I see chemistry as an integral part of harm minimisation education, as is physiology and pharmacology. If people were more aware of drug chemistry, it could only help to reduce the degree of contaminants in street product (people won’t buy shit if there’s an option). And it will definitely make you think more about your source.
Chemistry should not be a taboo subject, but part of the whole truth about drugs. Bluelight is after all about complete education isn’t it?
Of course I don’t wish to imply that this board should allow the posting of sources for prohibited products, and other obviously out of place discussions.
Just know the drug……as completely as you can
