sekio
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The other day I came up with an idea. Cardiac pacemakers are a thing, and my preliminary reading suggests that phrenic nerve stimulation is a thing too, used in cases of severe sleep apnea.
How about an implantable device that acts as a pacemaker for the diaphragm (via the phrenic nerve) when it senses it would be appropriate? (Either by passively sensing the normal electrical activity and activating when it detects inactivity, or with some means of sensing SpO2). The idea would be, people at risk for opioid/sedative overdoses could get one implanted, which would effectively act as a "backup brainstem" and keep the person breathing for long enough to either regain conciousness, get ventilator support, or for an antidote to be administered. In fact, maybe the device could act like an internally implanted Narcan kit, and deliver an IP infusion of naloxone.
I think the only case a device like this would be of no use would be in the case of aspiration or asphyxia. Of course if the airway is blocked, all the diaphragm stimulation in the world won't help.
A benefit of the device would be its ability to counteract sedative overdose no matter the causative agent. If breathing is depressed, the device will kick in, no matter if it's a GABAergic, opioid, combination of the two, or something else. The only thing it wouldn't protect against would be paralytic agents, but thankfully nobody cuts dope with curare or succinylcholine. (I hope!)
(Sidebar: Do people use nikethamide any more? Does it actually function as a respiratory stimulant? It's WADA banned so I assume it must have some activity. Is it of any use in opiate overdose?)
Maybe in some dystopian future they would mandate implanting such a device in individuals who end up in the hospital after ODing too often. Or maybe it could be of use in narcotic therapy for pain/palliative care, allowing more liberal use of opioid therapy by lessening the risk of OD.
What do y'all think? Am I full of it, or is this potentially something that could see usage somewhere in the future?
How about an implantable device that acts as a pacemaker for the diaphragm (via the phrenic nerve) when it senses it would be appropriate? (Either by passively sensing the normal electrical activity and activating when it detects inactivity, or with some means of sensing SpO2). The idea would be, people at risk for opioid/sedative overdoses could get one implanted, which would effectively act as a "backup brainstem" and keep the person breathing for long enough to either regain conciousness, get ventilator support, or for an antidote to be administered. In fact, maybe the device could act like an internally implanted Narcan kit, and deliver an IP infusion of naloxone.
I think the only case a device like this would be of no use would be in the case of aspiration or asphyxia. Of course if the airway is blocked, all the diaphragm stimulation in the world won't help.
A benefit of the device would be its ability to counteract sedative overdose no matter the causative agent. If breathing is depressed, the device will kick in, no matter if it's a GABAergic, opioid, combination of the two, or something else. The only thing it wouldn't protect against would be paralytic agents, but thankfully nobody cuts dope with curare or succinylcholine. (I hope!)
(Sidebar: Do people use nikethamide any more? Does it actually function as a respiratory stimulant? It's WADA banned so I assume it must have some activity. Is it of any use in opiate overdose?)
Maybe in some dystopian future they would mandate implanting such a device in individuals who end up in the hospital after ODing too often. Or maybe it could be of use in narcotic therapy for pain/palliative care, allowing more liberal use of opioid therapy by lessening the risk of OD.
What do y'all think? Am I full of it, or is this potentially something that could see usage somewhere in the future?