RCs a-PCYP revisited: a functional stimulant

[negrogesic]

A-pcyp is a cathinone stimulant and cyclohexane containing analog of the notorious banned cathinone a-pvp (ie, "flakka", the stimulant that turns you into a flesh eating zombie apparently).



I first tried it vaped, and it was very rough on the lungs. Not only that, it wasn't particularly euphoric. Doesnt hold a candle to a-php/a-pvp or even hexen but is also less compulsive and lacks the wrist-slitting depression and anxiety of a hexen comedown.

When taken via intranasal administration it is however a surprisingly effective functional stimulant, which is very rare for a cathinone. Quite long lasting with significant mood boosting effects and strong focus, it has the lowest redosing urge of any cathinone I've come across, along with a relatively minor comedown. It does have a pretty strong physical rush at first (not especially euphoric but not unpleasant) that can be distracting but it fades away in within 30 minutes. The first 30 minutes or so can also cause some social awkwardness but it fades into a strong moodlift and focus.

At higher intranasal doses (above 30-40mg) the mood boost is very strong and euphoric even, but a comedown is clearly apparent and is probably not worth it. Very high doses likely necessitate benzos.

All in all it is a good functional stimulant but poor recreational drug.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

thanks for the report.

All in all it is a good functional stimulant but poor recreational drug.

Very unusual, totally ass backwards from what you'd expect. Nice for a change though.

curious, when you tried vaping did this one have the chlorine like / semen like smell that some of the others have (apvp, mdpv, etc) ?

 

[negrogesic]

thanks for the report.



Very unusual, totally ass backwards from what you'd expect. Nice for a change though.

curious, when you tried vaping did this one have the chlorine like / semen like smell that some of the others have (apvp, mdpv, etc) ?

Yes, but even more so. The smell is particularly strong when snorted, it smells like someone has nutted on your face. I much prefer the fishy smell of prolintane or MDPV to this stuff. This also turns bright green in the nose for whatever reason. When converted into a freebase with baking soda it also turns green.

Its quite nice that it doesn't suppress the appetite except at high dose, and doesn't have the irritability of MDPV or methylphenidate. Mood lift and antidepressant properties are quite strong. Its like it's almost euphoric but never gets there. The initial body rush is a little weird and distracting but fades away in 30 minutes. Apparently the rush is enjoyable and long lasting when IV'd, but I don't IV anymore, nor would I recommend IV'ing this obscure semen smelling cathinone that turns your snot bright green.

20mg intranasally is great for 4-5 hours of focus and mood brightening, just wait 30 minutes before having to be around people. After that first 30 or so minutes the awkwardness disappears. Sort of reminds me of a psychedelic comeup in a way.

 

[llamer]

for me oral administration was the best way to make this a functional stim, and it took care of the edgy come up you're describing (I noticed same thing when snorting and smoking). the euphoria level of this one i would compare to adderall, which one might rightly consider this a worthy replacement, considering its (or my presumption of) low neurotoxic profile.

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

This sounds interesting. Any more reports?

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Would be nice to get some more discussion on it. This could be the start of the a-PCYP Megathread, if we still do those. Negrogesic kicked this off with a pretty good start.

 

[deficiT]

Getting some soon after not really dealing with any cathinones for about 6 years. Thinking of going the PG volumetric route, I think that'd be a good way to make it less abuseable. Because once you start doing IV/vape, there truly is no going back (for me anyway). And it ruined my life quick so I'm going into this very hesitantly.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

A-pcyp is a cathinone stimulant and cyclohexane containing analog of the notorious banned cathinone a-pvp (ie, "flakka", the stimulant that turns you into a flesh eating zombie apparently).

With all the hype at that time surrounding MDPV. I had to try it, tried two different vendors and I don't get it. Didn't like or found it compulsive. Never went back.

So assuming a-PVP is less favored then MDPV this sound's actually like an improvement.

 

[Anonymous Dissident]

for me oral administration was the best way to make this a functional stim, and it took care of the edgy come up you're describing (I noticed same thing when snorting and smoking). the euphoria level of this one i would compare to adderall, which one might rightly consider this a worthy replacement, considering its (or my presumption of) low neurotoxic profile.

Out of curiosity, what were your oral doses?

 

[higherconciousness]

Just received 9 grams of this in the mail and didn't even order it. Someone done messed up. I have a sketchy past with cathinones so I'm quite nervous being so close to this stuff. I'm going to see if I can send this back to its rightful owner, but I really want to try a small dose. Hmm... what to do???

 

[negrogesic]

I didnt find it compulsive unless it was vaped. Even then its much different than other cathinones.

Its a pretty shitty recreational drug, pretty much unusable in that regard. It's an ok functional stimulant though.

 

[higherconciousness]

^ Damn. All I attempted to order was a little mxpir and Etizolam. Instead I got a lifetime supply of a-pcyp. Even though this guy messed up by sending me the wrong package I'm going to try to return it. I don't even want 9 grams of this substance, but perhaps I'll keep a 100mg sample. Is there any experience with rectal administration? The other routes don't sound to pleasant.

I tried vaping 20mg but was having some difficulties. It has a tendency to burn before emitting vapor. I tried adding baking soda but that didn't seem to rectify my issues. Having said that, I don't taste the infamous jizz flavor others have reported. It's a bit funky but reminds me of other pyrovalerones I've come across. Why someone order 9 grams of this Stuff is beyond me. The only other cathinone compounds Ive used was mdpv and a-pvp so this is pretty disappointing thus far. You would think at this point in time someone could produce a compound as good or better than mdpv, but here we are. Perhaps I'm better off that way.

I might try plugging some, but I can't find any experiences that report such attempts.

After some experimenting it seems the best way to vape this substance is to crush 5-10mg down to a fine powder and ever so gently apply heat. When I left it in larger rocks it would burn without changing it's composition, but when reduced to a powder it actually turns into an amber like oil that begins to vaporize.

well I don't particularly dislike this substance. It may not be extremely euphoric, but it does provide some clean stimulation and a gentle mood lift without inducing many of the pernicious peripheral side effects Associated with similar compounds. I thought It was marginally better than 3-fpm and some of their other Phenidates I've tried in the past. Vaping didn't feel too compulsive or harsh on my lungs either, but for practical purposes I'd like to try other ROAs.

I keep trying to get ahold of the person who accidentally shipped me 9 grams of this so I can promptly return it, but I haven't heard back from him. That's an expensive order and I'd feel bad for my connect and the customer who paid for it if I can't get this back to them sooner than later. There might not be a later if Im continually Surrounded by it, but I'm doing my best.

 

[higherconciousness]

^My god so this twisted tale continues. I received a reply regarding the mysterious 9g of a-pcyp that seemingly appeared in my mailbox. He told me that he can't take returns even though I'm trying to give the man $450 of his own cash and product. He instructed me to throw it out or proceed in whatever manner I decided. Man I was hoping to score some druggy moral points by returning the whole package

Naturally I tried some Saturday night after a few drinks. I crushed 20-25mg of tinfoil and proceeded to take two decent sized hits. I then waited for the tachycardia, anxiety, and subsequent regret to take hold, but it never did. I was convinced this stim was going to be another trashy compound like the rest but I actually liked what I felt.

It was smooth and subtle. I was slightly anxious at first but after some time (and a few more hit) it begins to subside. MDPV was the same. initially I had a horrible reaction to it and almost had a panic attack, but after a few trials something clicks. Now this is not MDPV, but it shares some characteristics. It's not as euphoric, but in some ways that's probably a good thing. I found it a lot less compulsive and I don't feel the need to redose every second. Having said that I still kind of went on a mild three day binge, but I was able to sleep and eat everyday.

Another thing worth noting is that this compound didn't leave me scattered brain and I actually composed a lovely little essay for one of my classes.

I'm taking at least a 2 week break to let my mind and body recover before indulging once more. I've worked really hard to get into shape and I want to keep it that way. I often go for runs now so next time I'm avoiding vaping as a roa. It's also quite compulsive that way.

I wanted to hate this compound and throw it away, but I don't and now I have over 8 grams and a past of extreme drug abuse. I've gained a great deal of discipline and focus over these past few years. Let's see if I can really put it to the test.....

 

[negrogesic]

I wanted to hate this compound and throw it away, but I don't and now I have over 8 grams and a past of extreme drug abuse. I've gained a great deal of discipline and focus over these past few years. Let's see if I can really put it to the test.....

You shouldn't have a problem. I have horrible self control but I'm able to keep a-pcyp around without going overboard on it. It just doesn't feel good enough to take a ton of it.

That said I'd stick to intranasal or oral use. Vaping is more compulsive and causes lung irritation.

Note that all a-pcyp that ive had turns your snot green/yellow. It also turns green when mixed with baking soda.

Again, its the least compulsive and most functional cathinone ive ever come across. It also has rather low abuse potential. The initial anxiety it causes takes some getting used to.

 

[higherconciousness]

Yeah, I was vaping some all throughout yesterday til 1am. Took some clonidine and 1 mg of diclazepam and fell asleep quite rapidly. Woke up feeling fine. No crippling depression or other nasty side effects. That's another reason why I like this stuff. The peripheral side effects are pretty much negligible and so it's better than MDPV in that regard.

I haven't tried other routes, but I was actually surprised By the level of euphoria I encountered. I was thinking it was going to be a little less euphoric than 2-fma, but I found it to be better. It is very subtle but most definitely present.

When vaped I thought it tasted very similar to MDPV and I didn't find it too harsh on the lungs.

It is compulsive when your in the midst of vaping, but after some rest I don't feel the need to keep going. Anyways, I think I really like this stuff. Damn it.

 

[negrogesic]

Its hard to compare the euphoria of reuptake inhibitors like a-pcyp against monoamine releasers like 2-FMA and 3-FPM (the later of which ive never never tried).

But I'd rather have a-pcyp over 2-FMA as over 2-FMA feels more toxic and has comparatively far more nasty side effects.

 

[higherconciousness]

Well... didn't take very long. When you seemingly have a free lifetime supply of a-pcyp it increases its allure ten fold. The first couple of days I had it completely under control, but last night I was condemned to an endless circle of porn and countless hits of a-pcyp. It's now 8 and took my last dose at 6. I have no idea how much I smoked. I lost count. It's as if I fell Into a trance.

I'd take a hit whilst watching porn and it would send a profoundly powerful sexual surge throughout my body. I must have gone through 200 vids and prolly bout 200 hits.

I feel like a fried lab mouse. I kept hitting that lever as if my life depended on it.Truthfully I'm amazed I don't feel worse. no suicidal ideation... yet.

 

[higherconciousness]

Its hard to compare the euphoria of reuptake inhibitors like a-pcyp against monoamine releasers like 2-FMA and 3-FPM (the later of which ive never never tried).

But I'd rather have a-pcyp over 2-FMA as over 2-FMA feels more toxic and has comparatively far more nasty side effects.

I used to really enjoy 2-fma back in the day. I tried another batch out last month and had more negative than positive experiences. Usually I would get some mild euphoria and some clean focus, but this stuff made me feel awful. Countless side effects. My mouth would be like sand paper even though I was thoroughly hydrated. It made me irritated and at times was dysphoric.

I would usually plug 2-fma and get a small rush, but this batch was so inconsistent and just suspicious. Sometimes it would take an hour to come on from rectal administration and dosages seemed out of balance. I'm not even sure if it was 2-fma to be completely honest.

Yeah, no more vaping for me. As I previously mentioned I was unable to be extricated from a viscous cycle of porn and a-pcyp hits. Took last hit at 6 or 7. I was completely defenseless against such seductive forces. I capitulated immediately.

I have another gram of 2-fma coming from a reliable source so hopefully it's better than what I just went through wishing I hadn't.

Guys... this monstrous bag of a-pcyp is pretty damn intimidating. Fortunately I'm out of benzos so I won't go near stims. I've made a lot of progress with my drug use and only sparingly use things like psychs, mdma, adderall for school, and dissociatives. These drugs can actually serve a purpose if used properly. On the other hand these cathinones have a tendency to reduce the most discipline beings into an uncontrollable beasts . I would have never ordered a MDPV esque drug again on my own, but after my excessively reckless session last night I feel purged of my compulsive propensities.

 

[higherconciousness]

Shit is awful. Flushed the rest.

 

[negrogesic]

Shit is awful. Flushed the rest.

Yeah its a pretty terrible recreational drug. How did you come to that realization?

Still, per the original post, at 8 to 20mg its a pretty decent functional stimulant. Better than isopropylphenidate and 4f-mph.