Well, 5HTP is ideal for the comedown.
I usually take it before I sleep.
In my experiance only a minimum amount of 5HTP is needed in your preload.
You guys took way too much. Most of what you guys took probably didn't even cross the blood brain barrier.
You probably felt like shit 'cause you took so much.
I take like 100 to 200mgs previous to a roll starting about 8 hours before. I take either 100 or 50mg doses every few hours or so leading up to my roll.
It works wonders for me.
I've a few friends who have been rolling for years.
They where very skeptical of the pre and postload too. BUT after giving it a try they went out a picked up some 5HTP as well.
I've been able to roll twice in three nights using 5HTP during the day and night in between.
My skeptical buds where able to roll very nicely two nights in a row on the same pills with the aid of about 100 to 200mgs of 5HTP.
You don't need to preload with much more then 100 or 200mgs. That seems to be the ideal dose--at least from what I've read and gathered from other sources and personal experiance.
Preloading isn't even neccesary if you roll rather infrequently. The body needs about two full weeks to recover from a roll. It doesn't matter if you pop half a pill or munch down a 10 pack with a friend. You still need some time in between to recover.
I've been able to roll on a weekly basis for the past month using a pre and postload. 50mgs a day or every other day
between rolls did wonders for me.
I think that you guys could try it out more than once before deciding that it doesn't work. I've been experimenting with it for about a year now with mixed results, mainly because I was working out every factor. Well most of them.
We are all physiologically different and need different doses of the Aminos and Viti's.
Pill quality, setting, and expectations should be taken into consideration.
Shit, I once waited outside of a party after munching a fantastic pill trying to get a ticket in to meet some peeps from this board, and didin't feel anything near the bliss I might have if I had bought a ticket beforehand. Or if I had used my noodle and waited to get inside before I decided to party.
Try it again. You might actually figure it out.
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[This message has been edited by Noodle (edited 04 January 2000).]