I have been using 4mmc on average every 2-3 weeks almost always intranasally. Pretty much from the get go i have used it as a party aid because nights out are ridiculously fun with it and quite boring without. I almost always drink alcohol while using it but have cut back how much i drink now with it. How much am i fucking my health up with this stuff? Id say i typically go through around 0.4-0.8g during a session and have never done an all nighter with the stuff. I always end up putting the bag away at the end of the night but ofc when the party is in full swing its almost impossible to stop. I worry that im shaving decades off my life using this stuff but when i communicate with pretty heavy users of this stuff many of them have been using since 09/10 back in the pre ban days and many are still going strong some with families and often seem unfased with their usage.
Really im wondering is this stuff going to put me in an early grave by using it the way i am? Iv been using it like this for about a year and a half now. Cheers guys. Any discussion of 4mmc is welcome here too.
Also its my first post so if i havent went the right way about this let me know. Long time lurker
Me and my GF have been doing 4MMC less frequently than you every 4-6 weeks, but at much higher dosages, up to 3grams each over the span of 12 hours.
I'm 170lbs and my GF is weighs 90lbs.
We have had no discernible impact on our life other than having skipped a couple of meals and a night's sleep.
We have gone to work straight after a bender with no significant issues or impact on our work performance and honestly if I didn't know I had done 3 grams I wouldn't really be able to tell by how I feel.
We do not drink with it.
AFAIK there is no indication of 4mmc being neurotoxic or cardiotoxic, with cardiac events associated with it being acute (ie took too much, or took normal dose when in a weakened state, or took normal dose but had previous cardiac issues) and not caused by chronic abuse.
Obviously it is a black market drug so you may not get 4mmc but another cathinone when you score so you might want to either do a reagent test or send it to Energy Control.
I would warn you against using that much intranasally with that frequency, your nose is eventually going to suffer.
We have switched to ingesting some of my 4mmc orally also because we realised that after a few lines the efficacy was being reduced by the fact that our noses were producing so much mucus that we were not absorbing much.
Taking it orally and then doing a few small bumps here and there is a more reliable way of dosing, and also if you find the sweet spot for an oral dose it will be significantly less moreish than if you snort it.
I would recommend reducing or eliminating the alcohol and drinking Gatorade or other electrolyte drink during the experience as with all stims.
Only moments where is felt weird/bad is a couple of instances where I forgot to drink for a while so I got dehydrated, my blood pressure went low and my heart started beating superfast to compensate for the low BP.
Drank a some fluids and electrolytes and was ok in about 40 minutes, I don't know how bad it would've gotten if I didn't drink something right away but pretty sure it wasn't gonna be fun.
