Insane Platypus said:
I'm glad I've never had any significant issues with usage like many people in this thread have. I don't think meth is evil and in fact, find it quite enjoyable. I also know it well enough now to give it a lot of respect and use it occasionally only (like every couple of months). Some will say "it will eventually get you too", but I've been to the edge once, looked over, didn't like what I saw and took a step back. I like my general mental clarity too much for it to become an issue again. Yes, there is such thing as relatively responsible meth usage (of course, it's not particularly good for you in general yadda yadda). However, I do agree that many people currently using/abusing it shouldn't really be going near it at all.
I second that. I have seen and read people's bad experiences with meth/ice addiction and I just can't fathom how one could get sucked in like that.
I, myself, have a predisposition to alcohol abuse, but I know for a fact that I couldn't handle living a life being "spun" all week. One, or maybe two nights once in a blue moon is enough for me and I find the comedown to long-lasting and unbearable to want to do it too soon again. So, it's the negative after-effects that make me keep my distance from using it too often.
Plus, I have issues getting to sleep as it is. I don't need the meth to make that worse for me and when I finally do fall asleep, I treasure and value it too much. It's not really an evil drug. No drug or inanimate object/substance is "evil". People make decisions, sometimes foolish ones, and as a result of this, they will suffer, sometimes, grave consequences. But, I do agree with what others have said too. If you abuse meth/ice too often, it
will drag you down. But, keep in mind, there are responsible ways to use any drug.
kyon said:
To continue the semi-off-topic conversation, I'm quite surprised that people even have access to 4-MAR anymore. I remember it being quite notorious around 15 years ago, but these days I couldn't find it if I tried.
I personally think if anyone
does get the
real deal "Ice" (4-MAR), it's just luck of the draw and it has been just sold as crystal methamphetamine/Ice anyways. I don't think most meth dealers have even heard of 4-Methyl-Aminorex, and they just label their product as Ice all the time. Sometimes inadvertently selling what people think is meth, but is in-fact 4-MAR.