1p-LSD disappointment

[mr.buffnstuff]

Bloody hell, 10mg = 1000 X 100ug doses. You don't do things by halves do you? From the varied reports I've read about this stuff it seems that it is subject to the same lack of QC as any other RC.

10mg is 100x 100mcg so only 100 trips worth (luckily!) I dissolved it in 100 drops of whiskey for dosing.
I wondered about QC they sent me lab reports of it prior but I guess it's easy to send documents across without them being 'legit'

 

[mr.buffnstuff]

agree that we need quality control in RC's^^

much safer than banning them outright.

and this chemical would probably not have such mixed reviews. i like it.

That won't happen under the grey status surrounding legal highs is sorted out

 

[ferrett1979]

The original batches of tabs were well laid but they soon went to shit quick. Mate nded eating a whole 10 strip and did fuck all 2 of the originals nearly sent him over the top)

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

1 mg = 1000 µg, so its 100 x 100 µg doses.

Oops, so it is - that's what happens when I try to count zeros in my head

 

[Acid4Blood]

I prefer the term, Like a giraffes fart.

Yes, I'm classy like that.

ha. i'm definately nickin that one!

 

[Sadie]

ha. i'm definately nickin that one!

I can't even lay claim to that. Got it from my best mate. I'd have to ask her where she got it from. No doubt from something like ab Fab or something of that ilk knowing her...

 

[steewith2ees]

I was directed towards a bona fide source who specialises in this particular product. I brought my first ten back in May, when the blotters became available again following the initial sell out. As I havnt taken a psyche of any description in 4 years I found my first trip quite intense but extremely pleasant, with fantastic geometrical synesthesia radiating outwards from the various trains of thought I was having, and managed to achieve ego death which I found genuinely and refreshingly cathartic. I found it completely superior to street acid while producing a similar effect (the only psyches ive ever used are lsd25, 1plsd and various hallucinagencic fungi, and despite their differences its all the same headspace to me) My subsequent trips at the same dose didnt achieve the level of intensity I experienced the first time but i put this partially down to my increased confidence and comfort in handling this drug. Despite the other comments in this thread, I am personally staggered as to how consistently this chemical effects me - i dont think I have ever found a drug with such a predictable effect curve - each trip has lasted exactly 8 hours - 2 hours to peak with the effect intensifying gently at a perfect rate, followed by a 4 hour plateau'd peak, with the trip then wearing off over the final two hours at the same rate at which it came on. On the 2 occasions I had a fellow trippers with me they reported the same consistency and on every occasion I have taken a 100mcg dose I have found myself back at baseline, with no hangover or comedown whatsoever, exactly 8 hours after they have entered my gob. I generally feel a little spaced out for the rest of the evening but this is of little significance or inconvenience after you have spent 8 hours in outer (inner?) space. I ordered a final 25 after the first couple impressed me so much, and I have had the same results from the second lot. I took my last trip a few weeks ago now (which I have yet to report on despite promising to umpteen times) using 200 mcg for the first time. Despite being more intense than my previous 1P-LSD experiences it still lasted exactly 8 hours. Ive never taken a licensed psychoactive medicine that behaves as consistently as 1P - LSD - you can set your watch by its effect profile.

Im sorry it didnt hit the mark for you Mr Buffnstuff but your experiences do sound disappointing. I seriously doubt Im as headstrong as you which may make me more sensitive to the drug but I experienced a full range of effects on every occasion including bouts of hysterical laughing and thought trains so deep or so crazy Id be reluctant to share them even here. With my fellow trippers reporting the same experience and duration of action Im surprised you got nothing more than visuals. One thing Ive held back on is increasing the dose too quickly, Ive stuck with 100mcgs all summer and I dont want to push it to far to quickly - Ive used the majik up on every substance Ive abused so Im holding back on these as long as possible, although, based on the story so far, 300mcgs should be brain party ultra.

I fucking love this drug. I havnt tried many non - benzo rc's as they mostly sound crap. Ive had MXP (boring) 3-FPM (once you pop...) and 1P-LSD. Despite my lack of experience with the 1000s of chems available I've had more than my fair share of all the classic illegals and 1P - LSD can go toe to toe with any of them, and I prefer it to LSD 25.

Got a BK - 2C - B pellet i was sent as a sample - although the dose isnt specified it appears that they tend to contain 100mgs. Ive tried any of the 2C's and asked my vendor to drop me this as it will probably be the closest Ill ever get now. Despite some mixed reports, it still sounds like it could be cool but everytime Im tempted to have it Ive just thought, fuck it better the devil you know and dropped a penny acid. 8 hours is long enough for a trip. The 12 - 18 hours cited in the BK2CB TR's sounds a bit much for a solo job, especially if it turns out to be crap. Inactive I can live with, bad trips I can live with but 18 hours of an active but crap drug just sounds like hell. At least a bad trip is like an interactive horror film in 3D squared to 8 decimated placeholes.

 

[steewith2ees]

Fuck that was long again. Anyone guess what Ive been vaping since I woke at 3am? At least im only buying it once a month now, but I have 4 grams

 

[Rio Fantastic]

Not really. Back then there were only a handful of LSD manufacturers, and almost all of them were train by the same people.

Now days every chemist has their preferred synth, and as a result different product.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but LSD is LSD is LSD, no? At that microgram range if they were shooting for LSD the only end result is either LSD or bunk product. If it's psychoactive surely it's acid? I mean RCs nonewithstanding.

 

[One Thousand Words]

I'd suggest that most Gratful Dead heads would argue differnetly. Because the dose is so small you have a greater chance of contamination during the synth. Back in the day there was a big difference in chemists and their products

This is a copy paste summery....

TYPES OF CRYSTAL

Needlepoint -very pure(95%) white powerdery crystal,was available in small amount`s. The best of the best

White Fluff -Very pure(95%) white light flakes of crystal. Still around and the most sought after. very pure

Silver -Good and clean(85-90%)-light greyish crystal. Was an unbelievable amount of this around in the late eighty`s and early nineties. Very good stuff. My first thumbprint was this kind. If you ate acid in the 80-90`s you probably sampled some silver.

Amber -Decent(70%?) This crystal varied from a light amber color to an almost dark brown color.Was always available.One batch called quadricept amber was the color of light honey and was very good.Lot`s a people worked with this crystal but I always would use silver instead since it was better and the same price.

Lavender -(60-70%?) light purple to almost black colored crystal. Like amber it varied batch to batch.

TJ (tornado juice) - purity unknown. I seen this shit in about four different colors and it always scared me. No experiance with it.

Champagne -(50-60%) black crystal, nasty stuff IMHO. I worked with it once and swore to never touch it again.

 

[Rio Fantastic]

I'd suggest that most Gratful Dead heads would argue differnetly. Because the dose is so small you have a greater chance of contamination during the synth. Back in the day there was a big difference in chemists and their products

This is a copy paste summery....

That's just a brief explanation of how crystal appearance correlates with purity. I'm not disputing that from synth to synth there will be purity differences, I just find it hard to believe that some synths would end up producing a byproduct that is in itself psychoactive in the micro gram range and so changes the nature of the high.

 

[pinkpapaver]

I love it. I've never had acid acid but I love this. First time I took it nothing but an odd feeling. Tried a couple more times nothing. Then I took five and it was great. I have found three to be what I need. I'm pretty functional with it too. Can kind of snap in and out of it. The other day was great and I'm looking forward to a winter of music and 1 p. The more relaxed I am the better. Damn does it highlight dust and dirt round the house.

 

[mr.buffnstuff]

I love it. I've never had acid acid but I love this. First time I took it nothing but an odd feeling. Tried a couple more times nothing. Then I took five and it was great. I have found three to be what I need. I'm pretty functional with it too. Can kind of snap in and out of it. The other day was great and I'm looking forward to a winter of music and 1 p. The more relaxed I am the better. Damn does it highlight dust and dirt round the house.

It's always the other way for me, everything appears really clean. Like walking down the street, all the cars look like they're from a showroom and things

 

[SKL]

I'd suggest that most Gratful Dead heads would argue differnetly. Because the dose is so small you have a greater chance of contamination during the synth. Back in the day there was a big difference in chemists and their products

Not really. "A greater chance of contamination ..." but also no contaminants involved with synthesis are remotely active at that level.

And no, there was not, is not, and really cannot be a big difference between different products assuming that they are all making real LSD and the number of mics reaching the end user are equally dosed in terms of actual LSD and not having any other drug active at such miniscule doses present (remember, we're talking contaminants at least an order of magnitude less 100mcg at worst.) What is going to be active at <10mcg? Certainly not ET, diethylamide, tartric acid, varioius solvents, etc. iso-LSD was demonstrated to be totally inactive in man even in huge doses (well in excess of 10mg) in a small, unpublished study out of one of the major universities doing research on this subject. Dose, set and setting accounts for almost all the variance in experience. Don't eat the brown acid, etc.

This is a copy paste summery...

a big load of hippy bullshit

FTFY. I'm a deadhead and hippies who spin these tales have no idea what they're talking about. This has been discussed ad nauseum here so I won't get into refuting it. TL;DR the dude (now deceased) was a liar, exaggerator, and burnt out lot trash. He probably did move serious acid but things are not done the way he says they are and never were, and the alleged "crystal lines" are talked about by him and to this day on lot, simply don't exist, it's all marketing. Does LSD of varying purity exist? Sure. Does the variance effect the appearance? Not like ChinaCat describes. Does it effect the experience? Hardly. Does LSD of 90+% purity regularly reach the end user? No way.

As regards 1P-LSD, I'm really very interested to hear that there is such variance in people's responses to it, as I understand it it's recently been shown to be an LSD pro-drug which is responsible for most (all?) of the activity, so perhaps we could be looking at enzymatic variations in people taking it, or differences in product (for similar reasons to LSD, i.e. ultralow doses, contamination with actives is unlikely.) Blotters bought from some guy with an email address and a PGP key, however, could have anything on it unless you test it, for that matter ... very interesting stuff. I'll be watching this as it develops further ...

 

[headfuck123]

this 1p stuff is seriously close to LSD for me. maybe slightly less visual and less mind fuck but all the bodily sensations and drifting lysergic visuals are all there at the right dose. If it wasnt for the longer come-up id have a very hard time telling the 2 apart. Now im very excited for ald-52! It should be even more similar to legit lsd but is supposidly smoother in many ways like less bodyload. sound like the perfect psych for me as sometimes acid can be a bit too much for me when i get muscle tension and feel as if i need to reassess my whole life after a trip. Hopefully ald-52 will be just like a smoother cleaner acid! we live in very interesting times when chemicals like this are freely available. Could this be the much needed ying to the yang that is our fucked up political and social system. Just like the when LSD exploded onto the scene to counteract the Vietnam war!

 

[Acid4Blood]

^^^ where are you hearing about a batch of ald-52 ?!

The cook must risk a perfectly good batch of LSD in order to make ald-52. Most wouldn't take the risk.

 

[Sadie]

He can't tell you where he's hearing about this....

 

[Acid4Blood]

^ Thought i deleted that post 2 seconds after i posted it!
Did my own searching & found it. Just can't believe a batch has been made! I've wanted to try ALD-52 for a loooong time.
Just need it on blotter now!

 

[Larch]

Oooft. Doubtful will try this again, quite a harrowing experience actually. Similar to LSD-25 but something definitely off about it. Visuals were bland like background noise for the most part, but would spring in to action for a few seconds now and again. Unpleasant thought loops, going off on tangents all this was present most of the duration.

Funny though as it has brought into focus what I need do to change current life circumstance.

As a disclaimer, mindset was not optimal.