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13 days later into comedown

Update: day 23

I went to a neurologist and they conducted an EEG, 3 other tests on my temples and neck, pulse, balance. I got blood work done. I'm going back for a nerve conduction test and an MRI. She prescribed me a low dose seizure med and .5 mg klonopin for anxiety. She said that she thinks I will get through this. I find the results from the other tests sometime this week.

My new symptoms are localized headaches, some feel like jabbing and some are just lingering all day. I feel random pains in my body (feet, hands, side of spine) that are there one hour and then not the next. I still feel not myself. Yesterday I thought I was dying, chest pains, my throat felt like it was closing up. I looked it up and I'm not allergic to anything so I guess it was anxiety. The weird thing is, I don't feel "anxious" but I guess from the time I wake up to the time I go to sleep I'm convinced I'm gonna die on the spot so my body is.

I was scared but I took a klonopin and went on a 3 hour walk outside with my friend to relieve some anxiety because I saw the night ending with me in the hospital. I felt slightly better and I ate dinner. We did gentle yoga and I put my legs up the wall.. after my whole entire legs went to pins and needles from my feet to above my knees.

I can't believe this is my life. I've been confiding in some good friends and I've seen some good and not so good doctors. But here I go day 23...
 
Here with you man. Had a few days of feeling a little better then today was the absolute worst so far... not much anxiety or agitation but EXTREME dizziness and confusion. Felt feverish and completely out of it. I didn't know what to do as I couldn't concentrate on anything so tried napping.. didn't help. Woke up, felt shit, tried to play some games on the cpu but noticed I was too confused. Then I noticed my hands were really slow and clumsy, felt a bit numb, my speech was slurring and like I was losing consciousness. At this point I started panicing about a stroke but was too slowed down to really get anxious...

I considered calling for help but didn't. It eased a bit in an hour.. went for a walk and halfway started getting worse and thought oh shit this is a bad idea I'm far from home now.
At home I took a benzo and now feel okayish... I don't know even.
Every day waking up to that agitation.. every little sound noise makes me jump, constant high dysphoric stress and dizziness. I'm so isolated as I can't do much really. Still waiting a while to see if this stabilizes and then I'll need to see if I try the psych meds but that's a complete crap shoot.
 
Also what is the seizure medication you were prescribed and what was the reasoning behind that? Someone suggested low dose of an antipsychotic to me, as they are basically tranquilizers.
Reason being that I have a bad history with ssri's.
 
I never understood why supposedly taking MDMA in combination with Adderall is so dangerous? A lot of you may recall, but many many e pills are an MDMA and meth/amp combination, I personally had the most intense experience of my life in such a beautiful way, I can see why speed and MDMA are very common in.many or most e pills (buying of the street of course) we all know the dark is a five star professional setting, the best stuff and cheapest price) I'm just giving an example of a normal day to day routine dealing with people at a manipulative level.
Anyway so it baffles me as to why Adderall and MDMA are such a horrible experience emotionally,. Mentally and physically, as many claim. I'll be honest with you I have taken Adderall, and shortly after , surprisingly catch the opportunity to do MDMA, so I said fuck it, I'll risk mixing it with Adderall, it's not so often I have opportunities to be so lucky where I have access to real MDMA, so I wasn't turning this offer down!
It was a very awkward experience, the Adderall def. Made my roll just bizarre is the best way I can explain it, it was not enjoyable, I felt like the addy somehow canceled the MDMA. I felt more like an Addy's out porn freak, trying to beat off, but for no reason at all the MDMA wluldnt me.get.hard, it wasn't until after , I was able to feel like a porn junky high on amphetamine again
Haha as much as I love how horny addy gets me, it turns into a guilty pleasure like I know I'm losing it sitting on you porn for 15hrs straight, it can be disgusting at times. It totally ruined my MDMA experience for sure!
But the big question is, how come it is super enjoyable with these meth and street amph. Combo on an e pill? Wouldn't Adderall make the experience as glowful as the e pill combo way, as Adderall is still an amphetamine , making it hard to believe how on Earth did it go bad on Molly? Is it the levo amp possibly getting intensified from the MDMA causing an extremely painful experienc ? Sorry for rambling on over this stupid nonsense, it still makes me wonder
 
Adderall and MDMA is BAD NEWS. In my research that I had to do after my idiotic experiments 2 months ago, I've found that the adderall amplifies the MDMA and you basically deplete twice as much dopamine and serotonin as you would when taking either by itself. It's like taking a double pill.

I rolled about a dozen times prior to the bad trip, but they were pure MDMA pills. I had the usual day after blues and fatigue but bounced back immediately ...

I am now in my third month of recovery, and I'm still pretty messed up. I don't have the anxiety any more, but it's been replaced by anhedonia and sadness on most days, severe fog, dizziness, severe fatigue, low motivation and most of all depersonalization. I have not gotten worse, and that makes me feel somewhat better. The worst is behind me. But there is no question that I have a long way to what I hope is full recovery.

To the OP, all I can say is ride it out. I was where you were in the first 3-4 weeks, and I know how scary it is. You will get better with each passing week, but don't expect fast recovery. It's gonna take a long time to reverse whatever happened to your mind.

I will never again in my time mix the two. I will roll some day again, but will never take the two together. This was a major wake up call for me.

Good luck to all, keep fighting the fight. The struggle is real, and it's not a joke. This shit is royally fucked up.
 
Coincidence or not I also mixed with adderall and it was at the end of this party when I had redosed several times and from 2 diff sources of mdma and a small amount of amphetamine. Yes, I know I fucked up. BUT a friend consumed about the same amount of everything maybe even more and he is ok. I'll have to verify if he took the adderall but I think part of it is an individual susceptibility. I got pretty confused for a few hours after but then it passed. When I got home I was feeling okay and thought I wouldn't probably have even a bad hangover. WRONG. First 3 days didn't think much about it but then it went on...and on... and on..

I have tried mdma a few times before in a more reasonable manner with no bad after effects, in fact there was more of an afterglow that slowly faded into normality or maybe insomnia. Last time was a year ago.
I will never ever touch any recreational drug ever when and if this is over. I just don't care. I want to live again and be comfortable in my own body... 1 month, how many left....????????????
 
Been 11 months for me man.....still stuck with tons of floaters, Tinnitus, hyperacusis, enhanced BFEP, muscle twitching, and of course sleeping is a bitch. Had a one light beer a few nights ago and whattya know....brain zaps came back upon falling asleep.

I took Adderall with MDMA too, the first month was absolute hell.... and yes I'm convinced there's long term brain changes.....because I don't have anxiety and I'm not depressed....I just have all these neurological symptoms that haven't improved at all in 6 months.
 
How come I never got horrible side effects with mixing MDMA with street amphetamine or meth as a lot of e pills have this combo? Why is it just the Adderall that ruins it all? Is it the levo amp possibly?
 
@howl the seizure med they prescribed me is called Aptiom... I haven't taken it yet tbh I am waiting for the test results but I might. She recommended like 2 hours before I go to sleep nightly. It sounds like we are going through the same business, but I force myself to be social, go to the gym, go to work, go to my friends houses... I haven't touched alch, caffiene, anything, and I don't plan on ever touching a drug ever again in my life. Like I said, still not convinced I'm not gonna have a stroke, heart attack, conk out, die in my sleep, bc of all of this.. that's where the anxiety comes in. But it's purely from these scare physical symptoms.

@lawyerlife thanks for the words of encouragement... I want to make it through this first month. Today is day 24. I'll have a good day, and then a terrible day, or a good few hours and then miserable hours for the rest of the day. I figure the fact that I can eat again and talk to people is a good sign. living like this is in fact, miserable. I can't believe that this actually happens to people.. until it happens to you. I hope that I eventually get to the point where "the worst is over" and I don't exhibit any new symptoms, but I'm definitely not there yet.

@adubbs damn 11 months... have you been to doctors? Did they run some brain tests? I'm getting everything done I don't care how many times I have read that people's results come up as normal. My EEG felt weird as FUCK (my eyes were twitching, body twitches, feeling waves in brain) and when it was over the guy said I wasn't supposed to feel anything.. so who knows with those results.

@opiate I'm sorry I don't know much about mixing or drugs or anything you're really talking about in general but it sounds like some people are more succeptible to others
 
No need to thank me, I'm just trying to be there for others, because I know how badly I needed it when I was in the deepest part. ADubbs helped me a lot, and Inds.

As I said, I didn't improve until the end of my 4th week. That's when the panic attacks and severe anxiety finally went away. That gave way to fatigue and sadness, and dizziness and fog. Severe problems with concentrating too. That lasted for about 3-4 weeks, and these last 10 days I've been going through anhedonia. I don't have anxiety almost at all, except once in a while. So I'm encouraged that my Serotonin levels are slowly getting back to normal, along with dopamine.

Hang in there, IT DOES GET BETTER. I know it's hard for you to believe it now, because all you can feel is misery. I didn't believe it either, but understand that you are not you at the moment, and it's the depleted chemicals in your mind that are making you think this way. I've done all I could - vitamins, 5htp, exercise, stopped drinking, etc etc ... but the ultimate cure is time. Let a few months pass and see where you stand. BELIEVE US we know exactly how you feel. It's a despondent place to be in, as if someone opened the doors of hell and you got sucked right into the deepest parts of it.
 
Thanks... right now I'm scared because I'm having a weird lingering chest pain. I don't know if it is from anxiety or if I'm going to have a heart attack. The first ER said my troponin level was good.. chest X-ray normal, and my BP was fine the second ER. Is it possible to develop a heart condition over 3 weeks? I just want all of this to end I'm so scared all of the time.
 
It's all anxiety and panic, trust me when I tell you. It is very common for patients to go to the ER, swearing by a heart attack when indeed panic, this is so very common. don't worry. If you truly had her problems other parts of your body would be affected for example you're breathing your legs could get swelling up and a whole bunch of other stuff I'm willing to bet it is your panic and anxiety.
 
hersheyscookie said:
@howl the seizure med they prescribed me is called Aptiom... I haven't taken it yet tbh I am waiting for the test results but I might. She recommended like 2 hours before I go to sleep nightly. It sounds like we are going through the same business, but I force myself to be social, go to the gym, go to work, go to my friends houses... I haven't touched alch, caffiene, anything, and I don't plan on ever touching a drug ever again in my life. Like I said, still not convinced I'm not gonna have a stroke, heart attack, conk out, die in my sleep, bc of all of this.. that's where the anxiety comes in. But it's purely from these scare physical symptoms.

@lawyerlife thanks for the words of encouragement... I want to make it through this first month. Today is day 24. I'll have a good day, and then a terrible day, or a good few hours and then miserable hours for the rest of the day. I figure the fact that I can eat again and talk to people is a good sign. living like this is in fact, miserable. I can't believe that this actually happens to people.. until it happens to you. I hope that I eventually get to the point where "the worst is over" and I don't exhibit any new symptoms, but I'm definitely not there yet.

@adubbs damn 11 months... have you been to doctors? Did they run some brain tests? I'm getting everything done I don't care how many times I have read that people's results come up as normal. My EEG felt weird as FUCK (my eyes were twitching, body twitches, feeling waves in brain) and when it was over the guy said I wasn't supposed to feel anything.. so who knows with those results.

@opiate I'm sorry I don't know much about mixing or drugs or anything you're really talking about in general but it sounds like some people are more succeptible to others
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I had an MRI but it came back normal....but MRIs won't show any issues with neurons misfiring or synapse issues. It's more for showing masses in the brain.

Let us know how the EEG works out, I'm very curious. Honestly it feels like I'm in a state of constant minor seizure.
 
hersheyscookie said:
Thanks... right now I'm scared because I'm having a weird lingering chest pain. I don't know if it is from anxiety or if I'm going to have a heart attack. The first ER said my troponin level was good.. chest X-ray normal, and my BP was fine the second ER. Is it possible to develop a heart condition over 3 weeks? I just want all of this to end I'm so scared all of the time.
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It's the anxiety. It tenses up all the major muscles in your body, the pectorals being one of them. You don't have a heart condition, you're just very tense from the constant worrying. I didn't go to the Doctor, ER, or anything ... I decided to weather the storm. And I did.

My advice is to stop going to all the Doctors and making yourself worry even more. You depleted the chemicals in your brain, plain and simple. And it takes time to feel better. This is something that you must believe, or else you won't start getting better.
 
opiatekrzy said:
I never understood why supposedly taking MDMA in combination with Adderall is so dangerous? A lot of you may recall, but many many e pills are an MDMA and meth/amp combination, I personally had the most intense experience of my life in such a beautiful way, I can see why speed and MDMA are very common in.many or most e pills (buying of the street of course) we all know the dark is a five star professional setting, the best stuff and cheapest price) I'm just giving an example of a normal day to day routine dealing with people at a manipulative level.
Anyway so it baffles me as to why Adderall and MDMA are such a horrible experience emotionally,. Mentally and physically, as many claim. I'll be honest with you I have taken Adderall, and shortly after , surprisingly catch the opportunity to do MDMA, so I said fuck it, I'll risk mixing it with Adderall, it's not so often I have opportunities to be so lucky where I have access to real MDMA, so I wasn't turning this offer down!
It was a very awkward experience, the Adderall def. Made my roll just bizarre is the best way I can explain it, it was not enjoyable, I felt like the addy somehow canceled the MDMA. I felt more like an Addy's out porn freak, trying to beat off, but for no reason at all the MDMA wluldnt me.get.hard, it wasn't until after , I was able to feel like a porn junky high on amphetamine again
Haha as much as I love how horny addy gets me, it turns into a guilty pleasure like I know I'm losing it sitting on you porn for 15hrs straight, it can be disgusting at times. It totally ruined my MDMA experience for sure!
But the big question is, how come it is super enjoyable with these meth and street amph. Combo on an e pill? Wouldn't Adderall make the experience as glowful as the e pill combo way, as Adderall is still an amphetamine , making it hard to believe how on Earth did it go bad on Molly? Is it the levo amp possibly getting intensified from the MDMA causing an extremely painful experienc ? Sorry for rambling on over this stupid nonsense, it still makes me wonder
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i think the reason why adderall is a bad combo is because its not just one type of amphetamine, its two or three different types of amp salts mixed together so when you mix it with mdma which may even have some speed in it there you are ingesting 3, 4 or 5 different types of amps plus who knows what else. If you do some research you will find out mixing multiple stims can be dangerous.
 
opiatekrzy said:
How come I never got horrible side effects with mixing MDMA with street amphetamine or meth as a lot of e pills have this combo? Why is it just the Adderall that ruins it all? Is it the levo amp possibly?
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you probably just didnt do enough to push you over the edge. trust me 200 mg md plus a good dose of amp will ruin your life. Almost killed me plus fucked my head up bad (really bad) for about two months...
 
Ever. This past month has been indescribable.

Today was especially terrible- I completely couldn't see anything, people's faces, words. It all went blurry so I took a walk and then my left eye started to go black. It came back after like 15 minutes but extremely scary, my heart was racing and I got very dizzy.

I am not disagreeing with you, lawyerlifer, it is definitely exacerbated and triggered by my new anxiety. I didn't have much anxiety before this, my job requires me to speak to rooms of people for hours, and now it's hard not to wake up and think "okay what's in store for me today" or rather, be completely fine and then symptoms hit out of nowhere. It is just reassuring to me that I'm not having them all of the time, so like you said, in time hopefully heal. I gave up every vice and have no problem doing so. Are you starting to feel a little better 2 months in?
 
hersheyscookie said:
Ever. This past month has been indescribable.

Today was especially terrible- I completely couldn't see anything, people's faces, words. It all went blurry so I took a walk and then my left eye started to go black. It came back after like 15 minutes but extremely scary, my heart was racing and I got very dizzy.

I am not disagreeing with you, lawyerlifer, it is definitely exacerbated and triggered by my new anxiety. I didn't have much anxiety before this, my job requires me to speak to rooms of people for hours, and now it's hard not to wake up and think "okay what's in store for me today" or rather, be completely fine and then symptoms hit out of nowhere. It is just reassuring to me that I'm not having them all of the time, so like you said, in time hopefully heal. I gave up every vice and have no problem doing so. Are you starting to feel a little better 2 months in?
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Yeah it doesn't really get worse, at least the physical symptoms don't. My visual stuff got worse over about 6 months......but the physical stuff like brain zaps, really bad muscle twitching, and the ridiculous neuropathy passed after a couple months.

Yeah the reason I'm fucked is because I did MDMA twice over one weekend and combined with Adderall the second time....and I've never taken either of them before.
 
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