12th Issue Heroin Discussion v. livin' on the run for so long I gotta go collect

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Gotcha. That makes sense. Then the reason for failing was most likely from extreme dehydration/lack of water and lack of pissing. And meth is the DOC where I see my doctor. Heroin/Psychs/etc are pretty much unheard of. Just weed and meth. Its a small town with a big problem. And it was color based (lighter vs darker) for the more concentrated but it was also like a thermometer. On the left was a chart of numbers for measurement and it went higher or lower. Never seen anything like it.

I can't remember, you just sniff your dope once-twice a week right? And you've tried IV before but stick to snorting?

When I was failing those tests I was sniffing 3x a week, but not a large amount. Like a little under a gram total for the 3 days. Right now I sniff dope 2x a week, and take a little dose of bupe once a week. I'm trying to cut the bupe out though, but would need a longer break from all opiates to be able to do that, because even with using 2x a week it's still enough to be dependent. And yea I've shot a few times but like 1/8-1/4 of the dose, and I don't really care for it, so I prefer to save my veins and enjoy the slow come-up and long lasting high from sniffing my dope.
 
^ I bet your doctor just sees $$$$. He could probably care less that you use as long as you have suboxone in you that way he covers his ass with the dea.

Most likely. Too bad he isn't a pain management doc :p

When I was failing those tests I was sniffing 3x a week, but not a large amount. Like a little under a gram total for the 3 days. Right now I sniff dope 2x a week, and take a little dose of bupe once a week. I'm trying to cut the bupe out though, but would need a longer break from all opiates to be able to do that, because even with using 2x a week it's still enough to be dependent. And yea I've shot a few times but like 1/8-1/4 of the dose, and I don't really care for it, so I prefer to save my veins and enjoy the slow come-up and long lasting high from sniffing my dope.

Are you physically dependent? Do you do your days back to back? I've noticed if I'm at the point where I'm getting sick and even if I cut back to weekends only, doing back to back days restarts the sickness. If I were to spread it out it'd be fine and I wouldn't get sick. I wish I could sniff my dope. We get brown powder but its not true mexican powder, its made from high grade tar we call "pure" or "raw" (+powdered sugar & magic bullet = brown powder) the pure is comparable to your #4 dope. But you can't sniff the powder because breathing hot air or adding moisture just clumps it up and eventually reverts back to tar rather than dissolve. So if you attempted to snort it, it would clump up in your nose. We can snort the pure or powder making a liquid solution but thats nasty as shit.

I like smoking it but since I have IV'd for years now smoking just doesn't cut it, hardly gets me well. I got to the point where I was smoking a ball a day and our "pure" is the same price as your powder. So it was ridiculous. I had to go back to IV if I wanted to continue using.

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Quick question..I know mydoctor can check with my insurance to see if I'm filling my scripts but since I don't have insurance (self-pay) can they call my pharmacy and see if its been filled? Because I only use about 1mg/day which means 4 pills a month. I pay $10 each since I have no insurance. I want to not pick up my script next month but I'm worried my doctor will see. I can't just tell him either because he wanted me on 24mg I had to fight to get to 8mg. If he found out I was doing 1mg he would drop me for sure since I've only been on it a month. He wants me to stay at 8mg for 6-12 months. Also-- Is there a limit on how long I have to fill the script? For example, could I go back to the pharmacy three months from now and fill it?
 
I thought regular tests like that (non-lab) couldn't differentiate between specific drugs? E.g. heroin would show as morphine, aka wouldn't know exactly which drug I took. Just like he knew I was on meth. I thought that showed as simply amphetamines? 1 in 8? Thats positively fucked. Courts should double test I think. Obviously they won't because it would double the cost of nationwide drug testing, but seriously..thats not right. Either make a more accurate test or send it to a lab or something.

All depends on the number of panels that are on the test. Tests that are 8-12 panel can often differentiate between heroin/morphine and amphetamine/meth.
 
6 bags of yum yum, an adderall, and some kpins. ive found that .5 mg clonazepam really potentiates h, but is too low too over due it
 
Most likely. Too bad he isn't a pain management doc :p



Are you physically dependent? Do you do your days back to back? I've noticed if I'm at the point where I'm getting sick and even if I cut back to weekends only, doing back to back days restarts the sickness. If I were to spread it out it'd be fine and I wouldn't get sick. I wish I could sniff my dope. We get brown powder but its not true mexican powder, its made from high grade tar we call "pure" or "raw" (+powdered sugar & magic bullet = brown powder) the pure is comparable to your #4 dope. But you can't sniff the powder because breathing hot air or adding moisture just clumps it up and eventually reverts back to tar rather than dissolve. So if you attempted to snort it, it would clump up in your nose. We can snort the pure or powder making a liquid solution but thats nasty as shit.

I like smoking it but since I have IV'd for years now smoking just doesn't cut it, hardly gets me well. I got to the point where I was smoking a ball a day and our "pure" is the same price as your powder. So it was ridiculous. I had to go back to IV if I wanted to continue using.

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Quick question..I know mydoctor can check with my insurance to see if I'm filling my scripts but since I don't have insurance (self-pay) can they call my pharmacy and see if its been filled? Because I only use about 1mg/day which means 4 pills a month. I pay $10 each since I have no insurance. I want to not pick up my script next month but I'm worried my doctor will see. I can't just tell him either because he wanted me on 24mg I had to fight to get to 8mg. If he found out I was doing 1mg he would drop me for sure since I've only been on it a month. He wants me to stay at 8mg for 6-12 months. Also-- Is there a limit on how long I have to fill the script? For example, could I go back to the pharmacy three months from now and fill it?

Yea it's back to back. I changed it up last week to one weekday and one weekend day, but since I still had that little bit of dependence it carried over. Only way to use 2x a week and not get sick is if I fully kick for a while, then go back to using every 4 days. I might give it a try, but it's not like the sickness I get from using on weekends is bad, but it's still annoying to have a few days that I'm not 100%

As for if your doctor can check what's up, well if you have a prescription monitoring program in your state then the doctor can check to see what you've been getting, but I'm not sure if it shows how many you are actually getting, or if it just shows like the prescribing doctors name, and what the prescription was actually written for, not just how many you took and when.
 
6 bags of yum yum, an adderall, and some kpins. ive found that .5 mg clonazepam really potentiates h, but is too low too over due it

All benzos potentiate opiates like crazy. I love it. I used to use xanax and do like 3/4 of my usual dose of dope. Unfortunately the first two times I did it I OD'd because I was stupid and didn't know what I was doing. I'm always extremely careful now.

Yea it's back to back. I changed it up last week to one weekday and one weekend day, but since I still had that little bit of dependence it carried over. Only way to use 2x a week and not get sick is if I fully kick for a while, then go back to using every 4 days. I might give it a try, but it's not like the sickness I get from using on weekends is bad, but it's still annoying to have a few days that I'm not 100%

As for if your doctor can check what's up, well if you have a prescription monitoring program in your state then the doctor can check to see what you've been getting, but I'm not sure if it shows how many you are actually getting, or if it just shows like the prescribing doctors name, and what the prescription was actually written for, not just how many you took and when.

Yeah, I hardly get sick at all. Even if I stop my bupe since I only take between .5-1mg a day. My plan was to not use at all, but if I really felt like it then one weekend per month. Buttt I'm thinking about doing weekends only. I know, already making new exceptions before the second month is over haha. The last few days I've had absolutely no desire to use so I don't know why I'm even thinking about it /planning it out. I really don't miss it too much..Just very bored. I work on my computer doing SEO work but thats boring as hell. I need to get a local job just to keep me busy.
 
^ What happens with me is that I actually get mad that I'm not craving dope. It's weird, but I think it's because I feel like if I can't look forward to doing dope, then what can I look forward to? So I just force it and get high.
 
So the girlfriend made a slight miscalculation, and we ended up having to scramble together $1,000 to put into her bank account before the end of the day. I'll say this... it wasn't easy.

But anyway, with the little bit of money we were able to scrounge up after that whole ordeal, we were able to get some bags. The bags going around right now have been a little wonky... the fire dope is still around, but it's not like it was just two weeks ago when everything going around was fire.

The bags have been small, too... I don't know but it's weird. (shrugs) I hope that this doesn't last and the fire dope and fat bags make a come-back soon. Watch, I'll have jinxed it and now the bags will fall off completely. lol
 
^ I should be copping within the next few days so I'll let you know how things are holding up in NY. One of my dealers doesn't have a phone at the moment (parents knew he was dealing so part of the stipulation of letting him live there was to off his phone) so I have to wait for him to call me if I'm going to get anything from him. If not I will just stick to copping saturday mornings with my other dude, who has a better price and better dope, but last week I stayed local to avoid any problems in the city. Basically I didn't like how the deal went down last time, and if any cop saw us it was blatantly obvious what was going on. And even if they didn't spot the deal, I don't know if they would pull us over for being white in that area or not, but needless to say I have the dope on me until we hit the parkway, so I'd be the one caught with it.

The dudes been having me count it after we cop, and idk if he does it so that I'm the one in possession until we get out of that area, or if he legitimately wants to make sure the bags are right, but I don't like it which is why I didn't go with him to cop last time. Probably a little bit of both, since we usually go in there with 5 peoples money, and everything has to work out right so that everybodies order is taken care of, and my boy gets his dope for middlemanning it. Last time I went with him I had a big order so was not leaving him with my money, and he had been planning on going to his connect with average stuff who doesn't see new people (it's true, he doesn't make it up to rob people bc hes said it to me before and come right back with my bags after seeing the dude) but once he realized that I was not leaving the car until I had my dope in hand he made the decision to go out to BK where the dealer is cool with me. I'm so glad he did, because the next day I had a few bags from the other dude he was gonna go to, and they were about half that of the ones we had gotten. I wouldn't have cared if it was a small order, but I dropped a lot of bread so I'm glad it went to the good stuff.
 
well with the benzos, i take 2mg daily. .5 isnt much, especially when my choice of potentiator is just more heroin.

edit: holy shit. I just found out a good friend of mine/artist (visual) that i've worked with is dead. he didnt do drugs besides acid and weed and was one of the nicest people ive ever met. im still really really rattled over this
 
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I just got some fire ass bags from up in north philly. My friend hit me up and she wanted to know if I was free... told her I was and she then asked me if I was down to cop. I was of course down for that. So we drive down there and get some bags from her dealer and we ride home after doing some dope also we smoked out the car. I did some more dope not to long ago and its got me nodding here and there... taking me awhile to write this especially with all the backspacing. So good though and happy she was down to do this instead of her just fucking with her roxi script and throwing me some. Even though I'm grateful she does that sometime.
 
Hey guys! Sorry I havent been around lol, been super high.

I started buying from a couple that sold me my first tar ever, they are pretty cool. Well they get really fire tar, it is so good it makes me puke sometimes, which is something thats never happened. The bag always wieghts and since tmr is my bday they gave me a free qt :D. Pretty sweet huh? Anyone else is DFW enjoying this new wave of very good boy?
 
One of my good friends just passed away from a heroin OD just last night. He had been clean from dope for 3 years, then took some methadone, OD'd and they threw him in a psych ward overnight. Some type of suicide watch. They thought since he randomly (didn't know he was an addict already) took 80mg of 'done they ruled it attempted suicide. Not even 5 days later he OD'd at my dealers house. EMTs came but it was too late. I'm not totally convinced he did it on accident. But either way, RIP Michael S. You will be missed. This is probably better suited for blog material or something but I wanted to get this point across::

Please fellow team nod members..just be careful. Your next shot could be your last. He thought he was invincible. Just as I once did. And now he is gone.

In other news, I go back to Seattle on the 10th to celebrate my brothers 24th birthday. I will only be there one day and its my only chance to get dope. I feel terrible but...I'm going to have to miss half of his party (getting dope) then I'll probably get kicked out after an hour (for being on dope) he is pretty straight edge, he understands my addiction but just doesn't want to be apart of it or watch me sink deeper into it. But hey..only there for a day, gotta do what you gotta do I suppose.

Do any of you ever fuck up when it comes to family events? Do you ever feel bad? Like showing up hours late or high as shit? I remember once I was nodding so tough at thanksgiving I dropped my plate and it shattered. I was so embarrassed (not for myself, everyone knew I was a junkie, but for my mom..she actually cried)
 
^ I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, man. I have had not one but two friends die from heroin overdoses, both within two weeks of one another, and I know that it isn't easy. In all sincerity, my condolences...

Regarding the whole fucking up at family events thing, well, I've never had anything like that happen to me before because my family is not exactly the most close-knit, family-event sort of a family; so, I guess that I've just never had the opportunity to screw up at a family event, but had I the opportunity, yeah, I probably would have by now. lol

Anyway, I went to see my guy today, and the new stuff he has right now is just as good if not better than the stuff he had before, and the bags are a tiny bit bigger which is an improvement of sorts. It definitely tasted right, smelled right, looked right... and of course these new bags were non-inducing as well lol so we'll see if these bags stick around for a while... I hope so. :)
 
Thanks Verso. It's not easy. Its happened several times but it never seems to get any easier to hear what happened. Yeah, my family (moms side, nobody on dads side) consists of about 5 families and 30 people. They all are super hardcore christian. They think even alcohol and cigarettes are the devils work lmao. They are all pretty tight-knit. But most my cousins aren't allowed to hang out with me since I'm such a bad influence haha. I'd never expose my cousins to drugs, but they obviously assume I am the devil as well. On both sides, both grandfathers were pastors. Its crazy around here. You say even ass or piss and you better be on your knees asking for forgiveness! Needless to say finding out I shoot up meth and heroin was quite the shocker..I swear I'm adopted.

My family is getting fucking ridiculous. If I fall asleep (nap) during the day (I have pretty bad insomnia at night) they will question the fuck out of me and search my room. Because if I fall asleep and its not night I'm OBVIOUSLY nodding and geeked out on drugs. But when my dad nods off in front of the TV its cool, he's just sleepin. Something a drug addict obviously can't do haha.

T -78hrs until I get to get my nod on! Gonna smoke a little tweak too. So stoked..Plan was to only get high for 1 weekend, then it was "well maybe just weekendS" now I'm thinking..I got some extra cash..why not get a ball..then limit myself to 0.15 morning shot and 0.15 night shot and do it for 10 days! Then I'll break again..Ha..We all know this game. It will be gone in 3 days tops.

Well actually, in reality there is no "extra cash" I'm saving up to move to NYC. I'm just waiting for a big biz deal to go through. I'm just gonna find a room for rent off Craigslist but I'm hoping I don't get some straight edge anti-drug dude.
 
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Damn epiks, I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Was it methadone or heroin that he fatally overdosed on? You should tell your dealer to try to have some narcan on hand, or at least some suboxone or subutex. Anybody that is going to try to use that still needs to call 911, but in the event that the EMTs may take a while to get there, it can be a real life saver if you have it on you.

Weekly dope porn time.

Just copped the usual Brooklyn fire. Same stuff just different stamp.
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This roughly translates to "one that kills." Maybe someone that knows more spanish will have a better idea of what the intended meaning is. Maybe it's something like a one bag will kill you type of meaning, implying that it's really strong.

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Contents of 1 bag in 1 line

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Contents of 1 bag in 2 lines so you have a better idea of the amount


I did my Saturday morning dope run tonight instead of tomorrow since me and my friend are both busy tomorrow morning. I'm glad we did it tonight so I was able to get high tonight after work instead of getting it before work which usually results in me sniffing a little dope at a time throughout the day. I'll still have enough for tomorrow and the next day since it's fire and I got 8 bags, but whatever is left over after tomorrow will be saved for when I go to do something during the week so I don't have to deal with any withdrawal. I only get achy bones, but I have plans to hang out with a few friends this upcoming week and if we get food and drinks I don't want to have to worry about my stomach acting up.
 
tommy..ive been doin my coppin for the next day, the night befoer recently and i like it alot better then coppin the next day when i plan to use..i used to like coppin the day of use cause by copping in the day its a good 1 1/2-2hours trip with traffic and i like it cause it gives me something to do instead of just sittingaround waiting to get high plus i used to not be able save it til the next day..but coppin the night before im starting to like cause my will power has got stronger the more times ive done it and so im not worried about doing it when i get back home that night, i can actually wait now but before i dreaded just sitting around all day waiting to get high but when i have it, ill just smoke a little to take the sick away and then ill smoke a little bud and watch a movie and i just chill, i still wait til 6pm to get high but its nicer not having to go cop and sit in traffic when your sick, i used to like it but now im starting not to


@epics.. the shitty part is to just rent a room in NYC is gonna cost you like 700-1000$/MONTH



Hey guys! Sorry I havent been around lol, been super high.

I started buying from a couple that sold me my first tar ever, they are pretty cool. Well they get really fire tar, it is so good it makes me puke sometimes, which is something thats never happened. The bag always wieghts and since tmr is my bday they gave me a free qt :D. Pretty sweet huh? Anyone else is DFW enjoying this new wave of very good boy?
god i wish i could try tar, i like the powder but its like you alwayts want what you cant have and tar is one thing we dont have here and its one thing i really really want

One of my good friends just passed away from a heroin OD just last night. He had been clean from dope for 3 years, then took some methadone, OD'd and they threw him in a psych ward overnight. Some type of suicide watch. They thought since he randomly (didn't know he was an addict already) took 80mg of 'done they ruled it attempted suicide. Not even 5 days later he OD'd at my dealers house. EMTs came but it was too late. I'm not totally convinced he did it on accident. But either way, RIP Michael S. You will be missed. This is probably better suited for blog material or something but I wanted to get this point across::

Please fellow team nod members..just be careful. Your next shot could be your last. He thought he was invincible. Just as I once did. And now he is gone.

In other news, I go back to Seattle on the 10th to celebrate my brothers 24th birthday. I will only be there one day and its my only chance to get dope. I feel terrible but...I'm going to have to miss half of his party (getting dope) then I'll probably get kicked out after an hour (for being on dope) he is pretty straight edge, he understands my addiction but just doesn't want to be apart of it or watch me sink deeper into it. But hey..only there for a day, gotta do what you gotta do I suppose.

Do any of you ever fuck up when it comes to family events? Do you ever feel bad? Like showing up hours late or high as shit? I remember once I was nodding so tough at thanksgiving I dropped my plate and it shattered. I was so embarrassed (not for myself, everyone knew I was a junkie, but for my mom..she actually cried)

about fucking up at family events, its funny you ask cause im about to do that big time sometimes in the next year..my moms about to get remarried sometimes in the next year and i dont fully support it, so i dont plan of really going to the reception and all that,they are getting married in the city i guess, so im just gonna go cop and go home and get high while everyone else is at the reception..i know it sounds shitty but i dont see the point for my mom to get remarried, shes almost 50 so its not like shes gonna have another kid, the guy shes marrying is no joke slow in the head, or just a complete pushover idiot.. the guy had been married twice before, do hes obviously not the best husband and has 4other kids, she makes twice as much as he does for a living and she always pays for everything when ever they or allof us go out, hell he drives her car when he runs his errands or goes and sees his kids and he even moved in with us,"cause his lease was up" the guy owes the IRS over 25k cause for somehow he "forgot" to pay taxes for a good 4-5years..so yeah thats just the short version, i can keep goin on


but back to you ...why even get high during the party? go cop and just wait til after, not only will it make your brother happy cause you showed your love and support but then you get the stisfaction of waiting those extra hours..when ever i do that i look at it like "hey i could have already done it and started to sober up, but instead im just starting the night off" and i always feel better i waited

and sorry to hear about your loss, im not trying to dicksize but i wish its only been 2 people ive known who have OD..if that was the case id prolly still care and be sad when i hear someone did OD..but with me being at somewhere aroundf 9-10, you dont even get sad anymore, you get mad..you get mad that people are still this carelss when it comes to dope, cause everyone who dies now knows at least 5otyher people themselves who have died..so its not like something people dont hear about or have in the back of they heads cause they do and yet they still procede to OD

what i want to know is how does he OD at your dealers place and the EMTs not get their fast enough to save him? shit better yet, how does your dealer not have narcan or hell even subs on him to try and save him? now i know my dealer doesnt have that shit but thats because hes a black dude from the hood and he doesnt use or allow people to use it in his presence, so its not like they will od in front of him..but iwould think a white dealer who uses himself and allows people to use in his house where he sells from, that he would have a small supply of it, just in case
 
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^ the shitty part is to just rent a room in NYC is gonna cost you like 700-1000$/MONTH

You could only be so lucky to find a place for that price. Maybe in a shitty area. I know people paying more than that for shitty little places in NY that I wouldn't ever want to live in. NY is wicked fucking expensive to live there. Hell, $700-1000 here in CT in just a normal area is still pretty reasonable, I'd have to imagine in NYC it'd probably be closer to $1200-1500/mo for anywhere that's even remotely considered halfway decent
 
Damn epiks, I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Was it methadone or heroin that he fatally overdosed on? You should tell your dealer to try to have some narcan on hand, or at least some suboxone or subutex. Anybody that is going to try to use that still needs to call 911, but in the event that the EMTs may take a while to get there, it can be a real life saver if you have it on you.

The fatal overdose was heroin and <5 days after his methadone overdose (which he was revived from) I've told him I can get him narcan for free. He just says "nahh I don't need it.." maybe now he will listen.


^ the shitty part is to just rent a room in NYC is gonna cost you like 700-1000$/MONTH

what i want to know is how does he OD at your dealers place and the EMTs not get their fast enough to save him? shit better yet, how does your dealer not have narcan or hell even subs on him to try and save him? now i know my dealer doesnt have that shit but thats because hes a black dude from the hood and he doesnt use or allow people to use it in his presence, so its not like they will od in front of him..but iwould think a white dealer who uses himself and allows people to use in his hous ewhere he sells you have a small supply of it, just in case

Yeah, I know..Seattle its about 700-900 depending on location as well. I looked on CL and found some rooms (small) in NYC for around 700. Probably shit-town USA. I wouldn't know.

He is one of those guys that thinks nothing ever bad will happen. He just thinks "ahh nobody is gonna OD!" even tho like 5 ppl have in his house before. He saved my life before with CPR so he figured he could do the same with this guy so he waited waaay too long to call 911. He figured he could wake him up himself. When I OD'd and he saved me with CPR the EMT's literally, I kid you not, took 24 minutes to get there. If CPR hadn't have worked I'd be long gone. I guess he figured it'd be the same thing again. But unfortunately it was not.
 
You could only be so lucky to find a place for that price. Maybe in a shitty area. I know people paying more than that for shitty little places in NY that I wouldn't ever want to live in. NY is wicked fucking expensive to live there. Hell, $700-1000 here in CT in just a normal area is still pretty reasonable, I'd have to imagine in NYC it'd probably be closer to $1200-1500/mo for anywhere that's even remotely considered halfway decent

Correct. I just saw an old friend I went to high school with posting on facebook that she is moving from NYC to the suburbs, and is looking for someone to move into her soon-to-be previous apartment since she had been rooming with her brother so he's going to need a new roommate. The rent is 1200/month. Epiks PM me if you want me to look around for you. My friends aren't drug users so you don't have to worry about that since I noticed you saying you don't want to live with an addict.
 
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